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Tommy Carcetti

(44,605 posts)
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 10:37 AM Monday

The UFC is designed for a very specific niche audience.

With that niche being "Stunted manchildren who need some outlet to cope after having found out professional wrestling is staged."

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The UFC is designed for a very specific niche audience. (Original Post) Tommy Carcetti Monday OP
UFC is for people who think "Joe Rogan is like what if Sylvester Stallone and Elmer Fudd had a transporter accident" RockRaven Monday #1
That sounds like something John Oliver would say! Initech Monday #3
I've been calling it the human equivalent of cock fighting. Initech Monday #2
That's about it RussBLib Monday #4
Oh yes, I can totally see this. CrispyQ Monday #6
Isn't Trump supposed to have something like 'the hunger games' woodsprite Monday #33
It really isn't though, is it? Llewlladdwr Monday #21
Next thing you know they'll be making their fingernails... ananda Monday #28
For those attracted to redneck shit shows. SheltieLover Monday #5
I'm a lifelong boxing fan Johnny2X2X Monday #7
Say what you want about boxing... Tommy Carcetti Monday #8
Boxing is the sweet science Johnny2X2X Monday #11
Agree on all. Not to mention they have full on actual NAZIS competing. Hassin Bin Sober Monday #10
And its boring Johonny Monday #34
Laz used to like UFC when it wasn't Dana White... haele Monday #39
Yeah Johnny2X2X Monday #40
Y'all might want to open a window... Llewlladdwr Monday #9
Who's your favorite? Bryce Mitchell or Sean Strickland? Or both? Hassin Bin Sober Monday #12
Don't have one myself... Llewlladdwr Monday #16
Are they trumpers into Nazis and wife beaters like Dana White (the CEO of UFC)? Hassin Bin Sober Monday #20
Nope, just a couple of regular folks who happen to like something you don't. Llewlladdwr Monday #22
I guess you like seeing guys.... RussBLib Monday #14
Different strokes, right? Llewlladdwr Monday #18
Of course RussBLib Monday #31
I think it ends when our species goes extinct. Llewlladdwr Monday #37
Snobbery to not want to watch people getting CTE SamuelTheThird Monday #17
If you don't want to watch then don't. Llewlladdwr Monday #19
Youre watching people getting brain damage and cheering SamuelTheThird Monday #24
Let me guess, you're not a hockey fan either... Llewlladdwr Monday #25
You didn't answer my questions SamuelTheThird Monday #32
Well then, let me do that. Llewlladdwr Monday #35
ok... SamuelTheThird Monday #41
you make a rather ironic assertion. Torchlight Monday #36
I am a complicated man... Llewlladdwr Monday #38
Democratic voters watch UFC.... Melon Monday #13
It's crazy, right? Llewlladdwr Monday #23
War is hell The Grand Illuminist Monday #30
It's for folks who are entertained by actual violence, pain and suffering. flvegan Monday #15
This is the audience they already have. mzmolly Monday #26
There is nothing fun or the least bit uplifting to the spirit Klarkashton Monday #27
Originally... The Grand Illuminist Monday #29

RockRaven

(19,997 posts)
1. UFC is for people who think "Joe Rogan is like what if Sylvester Stallone and Elmer Fudd had a transporter accident"
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 10:45 AM
Monday

is a compliment.

RussBLib

(10,838 posts)
4. That's about it
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 10:52 AM
Monday

I figure the longer Trump is in the WH, the more likely we will start having “death matches.” It’s the logical extension.

https://russblib.blogspot.com/?m=1

CrispyQ

(41,176 posts)
6. Oh yes, I can totally see this.
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 11:40 AM
Monday

There is a big segment of America that loves punishing people, & the more humiliating, the better. It feeds their moral superiority complex. The white supremacists & evangelicals come to mind. It's sickening, & that I know some of them is sad & disturbing. I just want to scream at them, "What the fuck happened to you?"

"The Running Man," both the book & the original movie, used convicts as game show bait. It's one of the few times I thought the movie was better than the book, cuz it captured the game show feel & shallowness of America better, & frankly, I like Arnold in roles like that. Also, Richard Dawson as Killian, the game show host, was perfect casting. I see there was a new Running Man movie last year.

We've lost so much, so fast, it's staggering.

woodsprite

(12,598 posts)
33. Isn't Trump supposed to have something like 'the hunger games'
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 03:45 PM
Monday

With 2 athletes chosen from each state (or something like that)? Without the death part, of course.

Llewlladdwr

(2,221 posts)
21. It really isn't though, is it?
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 01:43 PM
Monday

Unlike cock or dog fighting UFC fighters choose to participate, and are well compensated for doing so.

Johnny2X2X

(24,565 posts)
7. I'm a lifelong boxing fan
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 11:51 AM
Monday

So MMA was interesting to me, but not this UFC product anymore, it's not much different than Pro Wrestling. It's all hype and they have such a captive audience that they can sell any fight as being this great match when it's really just a washed up bum on one side and an overrated young fighter on the other. And it's getting bloodier and bloodier as the stand up game has taken over.

It's one man's production, Dana White, and he controls everything and everyone. I think it's gotten away from good competition and is now a freak show.

Tommy Carcetti

(44,605 posts)
8. Say what you want about boxing...
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 12:27 PM
Monday

...at least it has gloves, and in the ideal settings, protective headgear.

UFC just looks like drunk people brawling on spring break.

Johnny2X2X

(24,565 posts)
11. Boxing is the sweet science
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 12:40 PM
Monday

There's a strategy to boxing that is just fascinating and the implementation of strategies over 12 rounds can be beautiful to watch. They can spend rounds setting traps.

MMA is more unpredictable as it's more of a brawl and guys can wing a lucky shot. Some nights a guy just is off and gets beat, other nights he comes in out of shape and gets beat or overtrained.

But MMA went full MAGA and it's so political now. All these meatheads want to make political statements.

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,555 posts)
10. Agree on all. Not to mention they have full on actual NAZIS competing.
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 12:40 PM
Monday

Just more breads and circuses for the authoritarian coded mob.

Johonny

(26,817 posts)
34. And its boring
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 04:06 PM
Monday

What turned me off eventually was how dull so many matches were. Fighter styles clashed and the product didn't/ doesnt really work as promised. Now everyone trains more or less in the same style.

Boxing shows how rules actually enhance the sport.

haele

(15,693 posts)
39. Laz used to like UFC when it wasn't Dana White...
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 05:00 PM
Monday

He says it went seriously downhill when White completely took over and turned it fully into his own spectacle events backed by gambling interests instead of a more skilled, careful fighting sport.
Very few fighters get a shot at top card unless their managers or agents work for White or one of White's "stable" organizations.

Laz said he wouldn't be surprised if fights were being thrown at modern events.

Johnny2X2X

(24,565 posts)
40. Yeah
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 05:15 PM
Monday

I'm not sure it's the best fighters anymore because Dana White knows he's got such a captive audience that they'll believe him whoever he says are the best fighters. He's giving shots to the guys who are most marketable more often than not.

And my word do the fighters get screwed. They're on $100 Million events and the fighters are splitting like $5 Million for the entire card. There's numerous ex UFC champs who headlined huge events who are teaching grappling classes for $25 a session while living in their friend's basement. At least in boxing, the fighters make over half the money from a show.

Llewlladdwr

(2,221 posts)
22. Nope, just a couple of regular folks who happen to like something you don't.
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 01:46 PM
Monday

But you go ahead and feel superior.

Much like a snob might do.

RussBLib

(10,838 posts)
14. I guess you like seeing guys....
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 01:02 PM
Monday

…beaten to a bloody pulp. The bloodier the better?

I would expect that most here do not.



Llewlladdwr

(2,221 posts)
18. Different strokes, right?
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 01:20 PM
Monday

If you don't like don't watch. As far as I know all the participants are there of their own free will. If they want to fight and others want to watch what's the issue?

RussBLib

(10,838 posts)
31. Of course
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 02:39 PM
Monday

I’m guessing you also like power slapping. This is another Dana White special production. The more violent the better. We are being desensitized to hyper-violence.

And of course you have the “Fight Circus,” that features the “Ultimate Dick-Kicking Championship.” Just good, clean fun for barbarians. Try this at home, kids!!

Where does it end?

Llewlladdwr

(2,221 posts)
37. I think it ends when our species goes extinct.
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 04:45 PM
Monday

Homo Sapiens is inherently violent. We've developed strategies to suppress that, but even so some people just really want to fight. Physically fight. Would you be willing to consider that rather trying to punish or stop those folks it might make sense to create a vehicle where they could fight with like-minded individuals? To me that seems like a better option that respects individual freedom and choice.

SamuelTheThird

(1,435 posts)
17. Snobbery to not want to watch people getting CTE
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 01:20 PM
Monday

Face it, the sport is about sadism, whatever rhetoric about sportsmanship is bruited

Llewlladdwr

(2,221 posts)
19. If you don't want to watch then don't.
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 01:38 PM
Monday

I agree the sport is brutal and violent but sadistic? I don't see that.

SamuelTheThird

(1,435 posts)
24. Youre watching people getting brain damage and cheering
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 02:06 PM
Monday

How do you sugarcoat that?

Do you just put it out of your mind that people are getting serious brain damage?

Or do you say 'it's not me, who cares'?

Llewlladdwr

(2,221 posts)
25. Let me guess, you're not a hockey fan either...
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 02:14 PM
Monday

All contact sports carry the risk of injury. If the participants are aware of the risks and find them acceptable what's the issue?

SamuelTheThird

(1,435 posts)
32. You didn't answer my questions
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 03:13 PM
Monday

Do you just put it out of your mind that people are getting serious brain damage?

Or do you say 'it's not me, who cares'?

These questions contain (one of) the issues. Then there's the issue of billionaire sports owners getting wealthier off of the brain damage of participants, and the blood lust of viewers.

Sounds like your answer is "they know, so who cares if they get brain damage?'

Llewlladdwr

(2,221 posts)
35. Well then, let me do that.
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 04:17 PM
Monday

I don't have to put it out of my mind because it never enters it. I say to myself "Look, two adults voluntarily engaging in a consensual, albeit risky, activity for which they're being paid". If the fighters aren't concerned why should I be?

As far as billionaire sports owners yadda yadda yadda, are you proposing we shut down all professional sports? Because there's a risk of injury in any physical activity. The only way to keep the participants safe is to not allow them to play at all.

And here's a question for you. Why do you feel such a strong urge to protect people from themselves? Shouldn't people be free to engage in risky activities if they want?

SamuelTheThird

(1,435 posts)
41. ok...
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 10:19 PM
Monday

' If the fighters aren't concerned why should I be?'

Who says they aren't concerned? I saw a survey that the majority worry about brain damage. And well they should.

'As far as billionaire sports owners yadda yadda yadda'

What is that yadda yadda supposed to mean? I mean by viewing you're supporting right-wing scumbags who promote trump.

'Because there's a risk of injury in any physical activity'

Ok, it's only a few sports that have a high % of BRAIN DAMAGE. Give me a break

' Why do you feel such a strong urge to protect people from themselves? Shouldn't people be free to engage in risky activities if they want?'

Im saying there is something psychologically wrong with anyone who enjoys watching one man sitting on top of another repeatedly bashing their skull, very possibly inflicting serious harm to them. And it extends to an unhealthy, dumbed-down, regressive influence in society as a whole. I said nothing about legalities.

Melon

(1,855 posts)
13. Democratic voters watch UFC....
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 12:44 PM
Monday

It’s crazy to me that DU labels a sport now Republican because the president hosted it. Just a really weird mindset. If he hosted a different sport in the future do we label all of those that watch it Republicans also. Everything this man touches per DU taints everyone and every class that ever enjoyed it. He controls too much in your heads.

Llewlladdwr

(2,221 posts)
23. It's crazy, right?
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 01:48 PM
Monday

And we wonder why the Democratic party struggles to connect with so many Americans.

flvegan

(66,625 posts)
15. It's for folks who are entertained by actual violence, pain and suffering.
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 01:06 PM
Monday

I'm not saying "violence" isn't entertaining. Grew up on Looney Tunes, graduated to pro wrestling, spent a lot of time watching the Die Hards and the Terminators over the years. Thing is, that's not real. None of it.

Liking actual violence isn't something for me to judge, it just is what it is. The more we accept and "enjoy" actual violence as a society, the more violent we as a society will be/become. To me, this "human cockfighting" is somewhere in the same realm as shooting animals for fun. Just my opinion.

Not sure what that says about those that do enjoy it.

mzmolly

(52,879 posts)
26. This is the audience they already have.
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 02:17 PM
Monday

I’m not sure what they think was gained from the spectacle.

Klarkashton

(5,487 posts)
27. There is nothing fun or the least bit uplifting to the spirit
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 02:19 PM
Monday

With that horrible shit. It's subhuman.

The Grand Illuminist

(2,094 posts)
29. Originally...
Mon Jun 15, 2026, 02:29 PM
Monday

The UFC was created to see which fighting system was the best in a series of tournaments. It was the main factor in the rise of Brazilian Ju Jitsu for which Royce Gracie won the tournament 3 times.

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