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Swede

(40,407 posts)
Sun Jun 14, 2026, 11:23 AM Yesterday

HEGSETH: The document says Iran will never have a nuclear weapon, won't seek one, won't buy one, won't have one

They got nothing that wasn't already there, and gave billions to Iran.


HEGSETH: The document says Iran will never have a nuclear weapon, won't seek one, won't buy one, won't have one -
BRENNAN: The JCPOA said that too
HEGSETH: But they didn't have the threat of military force the way we do that Iran respects. President Trump led with military might.

HEGSETH: The document says Iran will never have a nuclear weapon, won't seek one, won't buy one, won't have one


BRENNAN: The JCPOA said that too

HEGSETH: But they didn't have the threat of military force the way we do that Iran respects. President Trump led with military might.

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2026-06-14T14:42:03.111Z
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harumph

(3,486 posts)
3. Iran will be more incentivized than ever to procure or create nuclear weapons.
Sun Jun 14, 2026, 12:01 PM
Yesterday

Or biological. The US has taught Iran that a whimsical madman can be blackmailed by Israel to attack them at any minute. Netanyahu in his hubris, has put a target on every Israeli's back. Iran will tighten up its intelligence leaks and strike without any notice sometime in the future (I would guess < 10 years) and it won't be just a handful of missiles. I say this without any satisfaction. It is the hard reality. Everyone of those ~168 little girls that were killed by a US tomahawk missile will be useful martyrs for the state. Americans of Iranian descent also get no satisfaction because the repressive regime will remain in place. Stupid billionaires that run the US mistakenly believe all relationships are transactional, and that Iran will eventually adopt a stance of compliance out of necessity or self preservation. Fuck every single party involved in this.

0rganism

(25,750 posts)
4. Sure. Now tell us all about the verification process.
Sun Jun 14, 2026, 12:12 PM
Yesterday

Oh wait, you can't yet since your precious "document" is vague and the details are TBD.

What a worthless sack of alcoholic feces stuffed in a human-shaped suit.

Prairie Gates

(8,604 posts)
5. Yes, the JCPOA achieved that result without wasting a billion dollars on munitions
Sun Jun 14, 2026, 12:14 PM
Yesterday

and killing thousands of people and costing US consumers billions in increased cost.

Bluetus

(3,233 posts)
7. On the contrary, while Obama didn't make idle threats, the threat was always assumed
Sun Jun 14, 2026, 12:16 PM
Yesterday

Now that Iran has faced the most that the US has, short of nukes, they know that our military isn't an existential threat.

Remember the quote incorrectly attributed to Lincoln, "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt".

This drunken nitwit has shown the WHOLE WORLD that our "Department of War" is feckless. When we spend over a trillion dollars a year, the taxpayers ought to do better than just making some CEOs obscenely rich. This ought to be a very aggressive message that Democrats run with: a massive reformulation of capabilities to give the taxpayers a better ROI with systems that match the 21st-century world we live in.

This "excursion" will have terrible consequences for decades. The overall message should be, "Republicans are only trying to make a few people rich, and they don't care what happens to the 99% and they don't care what happens to the USA after they have extracted as much wealth as they can. They don't care if our defenses are a century old. They don't care if we lose all manufacturing. They don't care if we become far less productive than the countries we compete with economically. They don't care if Americans have a declining standard of living. They just don't." And we should say it out loud and back that up with specific plans that would change all those things.

Meanwhile, after spending hundreds of billions of dollars on the B1 and B2 bomber programs, we are afraid to use them, and are instead upgrading the remaining 79 B-52s with new RR engines and electronic systems to try to keep them flying until 2050. That will make the entire fleet almost 100 years old. The last B52 was produced in 1962. WTF?

LetMyPeopleVote

(183,453 posts)
8. The prior deal also provided that Iran would not develop or acquire a nuclear weapon
Sun Jun 14, 2026, 06:21 PM
23 hrs ago

The only problem with the prior deal was this

D_Master81

(2,734 posts)
9. Hahahahahaha!
Sun Jun 14, 2026, 06:24 PM
23 hrs ago

Called out and gives the most ridiculous bullshit answer I’ve ever heard. Yeah, they totally respect Trump. The same guy they made Lego videos mocking 😂

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