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Ocelot II

(131,660 posts)
1. They didn't need a tape recorder, just a cellphone.
Sun Jun 14, 2026, 10:49 AM
Sunday

"Tapes" has become an inclusive term for audio recordings, but nobody uses tape any more. They met in the situation room, but since it was an impromptu meeting it's doubtful they followed the usual protocol of no cellphones. So all someone had to do is activate their phone's record feature. My money is on Vance, since he's the only one of them whom Trump can't fire, and he stands to gain the most by Trump's downfall.

karynnj

(61,191 posts)
4. Also, on the Epstein files conversation,
Sun Jun 14, 2026, 11:08 AM
Sunday

he took a position that transparency and putting everything out was the best plan. Note that he is smart enough to know that Trump was in full coverup mode and even approved Maxwell's improved prison.

I suspect Vance wants the RW - like MTG and others less famous still demanding the Epstein tapes as they resonate with their conspiracy that the elites are demonic, while inheriting the Trump cult.

If so, Trump's response might be to recognize that he can't expose him without harming himself. However, he can (see Cornyn) wait and then endorse someone else as President.

karynnj

(61,191 posts)
2. The reported conversations cause a dilemma for the Trump administration
Sun Jun 14, 2026, 11:00 AM
Sunday

They can't BOTH open an investigation even to the point of asking Haberman and Swan without implicitly admitting the accuracy.

Even if was reconstructed conversations, it means someone, close enough to the President, was leaking what were clearly intended as secret conversations. Whether by recording or just leaking, Trump has a problem in his inner circle.

Yet if it were not true wouldn't there be more outrage? Trump has sued media for far less- including editing Harris's pre election interview to fit the time slot.

peppertree

(23,546 posts)
5. Krasnov and Hogshit - and half the rest of the NSC - are Russian assets
Sun Jun 14, 2026, 01:04 PM
Sunday

How the CIA allows them within a mile of the Situation Room, is beyond me (unless they, too, have somehow been co-opted).

3825-87867

(2,041 posts)
6. The Great Seal Bug of 1952
Sun Jun 14, 2026, 01:17 PM
Sunday

Soviets hid a mic in a "Gift" replica of America's Great Seal in the ambassador's residence in Moscow in 1952 listening in on Harriman and others.

Wonder how many of the goldenly '"showered" trinkets trump had installed EVERYWHERE where Vlad and friends (and maybe corporate CEOs and/or trump's spawn) could listen in?
All that gold in the White House...I'm sure has been checked for bugs, right? And ANY "gifts" from Putin to America's "porkumada" there, Mar-Lardo and Air Farce One are all totally fine, right?

Good job, SS...uh, OUR Secret Service, not Adolph's, because our "competent" guys would NEVER co conspire, right?

Cheezoholic

(4,066 posts)
7. There is no security in this regime. It's leverage on leverage, dog eat dog, stupid on stupid. Its a washerless faucet
Sun Jun 14, 2026, 01:25 PM
Sunday

wide open. A Cub Scout could get top secret info, because their scout leader is at the head of the pack

LetMyPeopleVote

(183,461 posts)
9. trump aides descend into panic over reporters' 'shocking breach' of Situation Room: report
Sun Jun 14, 2026, 06:23 PM
Sunday

The report by Haberman and Swan is so detailed that it may be that they have copies of the recordings of these meetings

Trump aides descend into panic over reporters' 'shocking breach' of Situation Room: report #RawStory

#TuckFrump (@realtuckfrumper.bsky.social) 2026-06-14T13:36:05.000Z

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-situation-room-haberman-axios/

Top Trump administration officials are gripped by fear that two reporters got their hands on audio recordings of meetings inside the White House Situation Room — one of the most secure rooms on the planet — for a forthcoming book, according to Axios.

The outlet reported White House officials believe New York Times reporters Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan obtained tapes of Situation Room discussions for their book "Regime Change," due out June 23. Independent recording devices are forbidden in the room, which Axios noted would make such a leak "a shocking breach" of one of the world's most protected settings.

The dread inside the West Wing is as much about the unknown as the known. "We're afraid some of our most sensitive conversations were being recorded," one administration source told Axios. "And we have no idea which ones."

The alarm was triggered by book excerpts the Times posted ahead of publication, which included verbatim accounts of several Situation Room meetings on the Iran war and the Epstein files. Axios reported that the authors conducted more than 1,000 interviews for the book, a chronicle of Trump's second term.

Tellingly, Axios noted, White House officials have not disputed the accuracy of the quoted dialogue — including a blunt moment in which Secretary of State Marco Rubio waved off Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's regime-change scenarios for Iran. "In other words, it's bull----," Rubio said, according to the account.

Trump himself is "furious" about the blow-by-blow reconstructions of the top-secret talks, per Axios.

LetMyPeopleVote

(183,461 posts)
10. Scoop: Trump aides fear Haberman and Swan obtained Situation Room tapes for "Regime Change"
Sun Jun 14, 2026, 06:46 PM
Sunday

SCOOP: Top White House officials believe NYT reporters Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan obtained audio recordings of Situation Room meetings for their new book.

Such a taped leak would be a shocking breach of one of the most secure settings on Earth.

Scoop: Trump aides fear Haberman and Swan obtained Situation Room tapes for "Regime Change" #Axios

#TuckFrump (@realtuckfrumper.bsky.social) 2026-06-14T13:12:08.000Z

https://www.axios.com/2026/06/14/trump-situation-room-tapes-haberman-swan-regime-change

Top White House officials believe New York Times reporters Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan obtained audio recordings of Situation Room meetings for their forthcoming book, "Regime Change."

Why it matters: Such a taped leak would be a shocking breach of one of the most secure settings on Earth. Independent recording devices in the Situation Room are forbidden.

"We're afraid some of our most sensitive conversations were being recorded," an administration source told us. "And we have no idea which ones."

Verbatim accounts of several Situation Room meetings were included in excerpts about the Iran war and the Epstein files that The Times posted ahead of the book's June 23 publication. The authors conducted more than 1,000 interviews for "Regime Change," which covers Trump's second term.

Tellingly, White House officials haven't disputed verbatim dialogue from the top-secret Sit Room talks, including Secretary of State Marco Rubio saying about Bibi's regime-change scenarios for Iran: "In other words, it's bullshit."

We hear President Trump is furious about the blow-by-blow accounts.

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