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Diamond_Dog

(41,398 posts)
1. Of course they teach history in Ohio.
Sat Jun 13, 2026, 08:41 PM
Saturday

And Vance is a former Marine! Apparently kissing Trump’s ass overrides everything and anything.

Norrrm

(5,956 posts)
5. ...that President Obama will attack Iran because of his inability to negotiate properly -- not skilled!"
Sat Jun 13, 2026, 10:09 PM
Saturday

Mr. Trump, 2013: “Remember that I predicted a long time ago that President Obama will attack Iran because of his inability to negotiate properly — not skilled!”

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221058284

bmichaelh

(1,301 posts)
7. War and Remembrance
Sat Jun 13, 2026, 10:35 PM
Saturday

This is demonstrated in the TV series based on Herman Wouk's War and Remembrance.

FDR demanded unconditional surrender after Casablanca Conference.

Reporters and initially, Churchill were surprised.

struggle4progress

(127,018 posts)
8. "The German Instrument of Surrender was a legal document effecting the unconditional surrender
Sat Jun 13, 2026, 10:47 PM
Saturday

of the remaining German armed forces to the Allies, ending World War II in Europe." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Instrument_of_Surrender

"Together with the United Kingdom and China, the United States called for the unconditional surrender of Japan in the Potsdam Declaration on 26 July 1945—the alternative being 'prompt and utter destruction' ... Emperor Hirohito subsequently ordered the Supreme Council for the Direction of the War to accept the terms the Allies had set down in the Potsdam Declaration." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrender_of_Japan

Imagine how clever the German and Japanese negotiateors must have been to force the Allies to accept unconditional surrender!

rampartd

(5,403 posts)
10. i'm seeing that as he solution for our current dilemma
Sun Jun 14, 2026, 09:25 AM
Sunday

if this 30% block of deplorables ever realize how badly they have been taken, we may witness that event.

thucythucy

(9,170 posts)
12. Rome vs. Carthage:
Sun Jun 14, 2026, 11:33 AM
Sunday

I guess the "negotiations" included Carthage being razed to the ground and its soil plowed with salt.

Clever Carthaginians, they surely knew "the art of the deal."

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