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dalton99a

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Sat Jun 13, 2026, 08:30 AM Saturday

Mega I.P.O. Frenzy Could Be a Harbinger of a Stock Bubble

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/13/business/spacex-ipo-musk-stock-bubble.html

Mega I.P.O. Frenzy Could Be a Harbinger of a Stock Bubble
Rampant enthusiasm is buoying tech shares to levels that defy gravity. Invest with caution, our columnist says.
By Jeff Sommer
June 13, 2026, 5:01 a.m. ET

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As I’ve pointed out, the price being asked for SpaceX shares was exorbitant, and it rose even higher on its first day of trading. That said, the company’s stock might well rise further over the next few weeks, driven by sheer market enthusiasm. Mr. Musk reserved a double-digit percentage of the I.P.O. shares for “retail,” or ordinary, investors — as opposed to big institutions. A retail allocation of 5 percent or less has been customary in most recent public offerings, according to Jay Ritter, an economist and I.P.O. expert at the University of Florida.

But SpaceX’s price is so high that, for investors coming late to the party, the probability of a solid return in the next several years is low. Historical data provided by Mr. Ritter bears that out.

SpaceX set its own valuation way above an important threshold, a 40-to-one price-to-sales ratio, meaning it would take 40 years of sales to equal the market value at that share price. Stocks valued above that level have rarely made money over the next three years. Because the Anthropic and OpenAI public offerings are still at a preliminary stage, there’s less information about them. But their valuations imply richly priced shares, too.

For investors to accept these prices — as well as those of many other big tech stocks — is, in itself, troubling. It suggests that the stock market has entered perilous territory. If this isn’t already a full-blown bubble, it could easily become one.

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bucolic_frolic

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1. The only alternative view I found on YouTube
Sat Jun 13, 2026, 09:11 AM
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is one that says, roughly .... in 2000, the tech bubble burst, and your investments crashed. They cut interest rates to about 3%.

In 2008, the debt bubble crashed, and your physical assets (house, car, hard assets) lost money too. They reduced insolvency with QE.

In 2020, the economy crashed and they propped it up with more QE money printing.

In 2026 the economy runs on red ink leaving the Fed to defend the dollar. Liquidity is everywhere. There is the idea that all assets - physical, investments, stocks, gold - will be repriced by inflows of money. Meaning prices could skyrocket - due to inflation. Holding dollars will be a losing game. Even bonds will be a losing game if the Treasury rates don't get higher yields.

So in the short term money could bid up the stock market. But at some point the game will be blown - there's no inflation adjusted earnings in the future when investing at these prices.

Personally I think we're almost there. Average stocks have been trending down for months even as AI and Tech soars. The lemon has no juice left in it.

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