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EarlG from six years ago. And it's only gotten worse since then. (Original Post) generalbetrayus Jun 12 OP
It's so fucked up... this evil white supremacist administration is really trying to revive the freaking confederacy LymphocyteLover Jun 12 #1
Yep, the Confederacy never died. CivicGrief Jun 12 #2
For the hell of it... -misanthroptimist Jun 12 #3
Very interesting and thank you for putting this up for your fellow DUers. SWBTATTReg Jun 12 #4
And the high-ranking traitors got CivicGrief Jun 12 #10
The State Sen Steve Huffman comment sure brought back a memory. My grandfather, who I am named after ... marble falls Jun 12 #5
My roots run deep in Cleveland. llmart Jun 12 #11
We have similar histories. I did not see black as a discriminator until I was eight or nine. ... marble falls Jun 12 #15
Brought to you by real live GOP politicians and you're right, its worse now. Passages Jun 12 #6
THIS kind of malicious shit... GiqueCee Jun 12 #7
Politicians are washing their hands frequently. twodogsbarking Jun 12 #8
Politicians AND "businessmen" -- one hand washes the other. nt eppur_se_muova Jun 12 #18
The bosses. twodogsbarking Jun 12 #19
All of these Racists popsdenver Jun 12 #9
The other gigantic sin of our founding. CivicGrief Jun 12 #12
And the racist cops popsdenver Jun 12 #17
Was that the young violinist? electric_blue68 Jun 12 #20
nope some 22YO? popsdenver Saturday #25
I was thinking of this young man electric_blue68 Saturday #26
It was Elijah McClain. generalbetrayus Saturday #27
TY for (the unfortunate) confirnation. electric_blue68 Saturday #28
Elijah used to play violin I think for pets in shelters....as part of a memorial cellists and other string players..... electric_blue68 Saturday #29
Wow..... SergeStorms Jun 12 #13
I grew up in a gritty California mill town pfitz59 Jun 12 #14
"San Jose cops shot their own racial sensitivity trainer" 1WorldHope Jun 12 #16
That San Jose murder was particularly horrific. Wth?! electric_blue68 Jun 12 #21
I was lucky my parents let me have all kinds of friends.... electric_blue68 Jun 12 #22
It has definitely gotten worse bc of drumphf's "permissions" to the racists to come out from under their rocks!! electric_blue68 Jun 12 #23
I do have a theory that I've on occaion shared.... electric_blue68 Jun 12 #24

LymphocyteLover

(10,351 posts)
1. It's so fucked up... this evil white supremacist administration is really trying to revive the freaking confederacy
Fri Jun 12, 2026, 11:57 AM
Jun 12

CivicGrief

(381 posts)
2. Yep, the Confederacy never died.
Fri Jun 12, 2026, 12:07 PM
Jun 12

Reconstruction was shit-canned because white folks couldn’t stomach the idea of treating black people as equals. Same is true of the early twentieth century labor movements. This attitude is the nation’s biggest shame.

-misanthroptimist

(1,931 posts)
3. For the hell of it...
Fri Jun 12, 2026, 12:21 PM
Jun 12

...last night I went through Presidential elections since the Civil War and removed the Confederate States. (We never should have let them back in as States until they demonstrated they were civilized.) What I found is that we would have won the last nine Presidential elections.

1992 - Clinton (D) 331, Bush 60
1996 - Clinton (D) 328, Dole 63
2000 - Gore (D) 266, W. Bush 124
2004 - Kerry (D) 251, W. Bush 133
2008 - Obama (D) 310, McCain 75
2012 - Obama (D) 290, Romney 88
2016 - H Clinton (D) 227, Trump 159, Others 7
2020 - Biden (D) 277, Trump 101
2024 - Harris (D) 226, Trump 161

Of course, things would have played out much differently irl. Still, it shows one way we've the price we've paid for letting Southern States back after the Civil War.

SWBTATTReg

(26,495 posts)
4. Very interesting and thank you for putting this up for your fellow DUers.
Fri Jun 12, 2026, 12:28 PM
Jun 12

I agree w/ your facts, in that when each state was eventually added to the US, it was carefully timed along w/ other states (and their votes too), to be even. So the balance of power over the years have been on the very edge of what both sides considered fair and even, a very fine line indeed.

marble falls

(73,385 posts)
5. The State Sen Steve Huffman comment sure brought back a memory. My grandfather, who I am named after ...
Fri Jun 12, 2026, 12:30 PM
Jun 12

... told me when I was four or five that reason I should never ever put a coin in my mouth was because "some n____ might have peed without washing his hands and might have dropped it on a lavatory floor somewhere."

He was too low keyed about his serious racism, I didn't realize until I was in my twenties what a racist he was. I learned about being a racist on my grandfather's knee. He did too good of a job: Nat King Cole was my favorite TV personality. I never realized he wasn't one of us.

It's crazy, I lived in Cleveland. I would go downtown a lot. My grandfather's office was in the Terminal Tower, My grandmother worked at the May Company, my mother would take to some appointment with a Doctor, we used public transportation both directions, I do not have any memory PoC in Cleveland, a city at that time in the fifties as 30% black population.

I was eight or nine when I saw a black kids by my school and I asked my mom what was "wrong with that kid?" She told me he was a "colored" kid.

Kids learn how to discriminate from adults. I never heard a racist remark from my mother her entire life.

My dad was "liberal" racist. He hated n____s, he was very close to a lot of black folks to the point Roosevelt Dobbs was the "black" Marble Falls brother. When he ran an Enron plant in Houston, he threatened the bank he used with pulling all company accounts unless they allowed his black and Hispanic employees to have savings and checking accounts and be able to get car loans. To him Red Lining was a bad expression. He was a racist with a sense of fairness that included most everyone if they weren't rich.

llmart

(17,764 posts)
11. My roots run deep in Cleveland.
Fri Jun 12, 2026, 01:11 PM
Jun 12

Both of my parents were born and raised there and I was born there as were my six siblings. Like you, I never heard a racist remark from my mother but did from my father. He was an equal opportunity racist similar to Archie Bunker - there were wops and spics and jews and n_____s and their pickaninnies and the homos. But also like Archie, he had a soft side to him for some things and would give anyone the shirt off his back if they needed it. We were rural people and a different kind of poor, but he would lecture us on what was real poverty if we complained about not having something. He worked downtown and would threaten to drive us down to the Hough area to show us what real poverty looked like. As a child or teenager the mixed messages could be confusing, but I became more like my mother. I just couldn't understand how anyone could not see all people as just human.

marble falls

(73,385 posts)
15. We have similar histories. I did not see black as a discriminator until I was eight or nine. ...
Fri Jun 12, 2026, 02:18 PM
Jun 12

... what made it so late, I think, was watching Indian games on TV in the fifties and early sixties where everyone was some shade of gray and the shade did not seem to matter.

I remember when Euclid Beach closed after the owners were enjoined from discriminating against black customers.

https://www.clevescene.com/news/remembering-the-best-ohio-amusement-parks-that-no-longer-exist-42251210/

GiqueCee

(5,000 posts)
7. THIS kind of malicious shit...
Fri Jun 12, 2026, 12:44 PM
Jun 12

... is why I have long maintained that the next update of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Volume 6 – if ever there is one – should place conservatism at the darkest end of the Sociopathy Spectrum.
With the exception of Mr. Sanderlin, ALL of the people pictured above are the embodiment of pure, malignant evil.

popsdenver

(2,768 posts)
9. All of these Racists
Fri Jun 12, 2026, 01:02 PM
Jun 12

who want to rid the country of immigrants, are Fucking Lucky that the Native Americans didn't have a BORDER PATROL.....
THEIR White ancestors committed an incredible Genocide of an estimated 30-60 Million Indigenous Native Americans and stole their land.........

popsdenver

(2,768 posts)
17. And the racist cops
Fri Jun 12, 2026, 03:10 PM
Jun 12

even here in Denver and Aurora are some of the worst racists in the nation.......

Over the past ten years, the Denver City Council and Aurora City Council have each paid out Tens of Millions for police brutality towards the blacks...........Aurora is actually the worst........Two Aurora Cops and Two Aurora Paramedics have been charged for literally EUTHANIZING a young black who was just walking down the street. That settlement alone was into the tens of millions of dollars..................... Two of the Paramedics were given jail/prison sentences for murder, but are trying to appeal their conviction and get out of any punishment......Not sure what happened to the two cops who were complicit, one of them put the kid in a choke hold until he passed out.....Aurora has had 5 mayors in the past 4 years. They take the job, look around, and quit.......

Totally nauseating.....We have gone backwards 50-60 years............

popsdenver

(2,768 posts)
25. nope some 22YO?
Sat Jun 13, 2026, 09:07 AM
Saturday

black kid just walking home from the 7-11 with a can of pop and listening his iPod?

electric_blue68

(27,815 posts)
26. I was thinking of this young man
Sat Jun 13, 2026, 12:33 PM
Saturday

Elijah McClain: The 23-year-old was forcibly detained, placed in a chokehold, and injected with a fatal dose of ketamine by paramedics in August 2019. His death sparked a nationwide outcry, leading to the firing and indictment of several police officers and paramedics.

electric_blue68

(27,815 posts)
29. Elijah used to play violin I think for pets in shelters....as part of a memorial cellists and other string players.....
Sat Jun 13, 2026, 06:06 PM
Saturday

played an outside concert which I believe the local police broke up.

SergeStorms

(21,018 posts)
13. Wow.....
Fri Jun 12, 2026, 01:23 PM
Jun 12

Those conservative wingnuts' names are coming back to me now.

Things haven't changed for the better, that's for certain.

pfitz59

(13,044 posts)
14. I grew up in a gritty California mill town
Fri Jun 12, 2026, 02:11 PM
Jun 12

Racism was rampant. Not a single Black resident. I was too young to know about 'covenents'. Most all the adults in my sphere tossed about the 'N-word' with abandon. The men treated 'their' women like shit as well. I got away as soon as I could. The town is still bright red. The mills have closed, but the legacy remains.

1WorldHope

(2,215 posts)
16. "San Jose cops shot their own racial sensitivity trainer"
Fri Jun 12, 2026, 02:59 PM
Jun 12

Sweet Mother!
My guess is that 95% of Caucasians in this country have no idea what the sins of this country are actually. I think they think the civil war took care of everything, and I don't think they even think about the first Peoples whose land our great greats homesteaded. Good gawd I wish all that knowledge and wisdom that died during that genocide had been allowed to flourish. I wish white people never found their way here. Imagine how cool the landscape would look if it had never met a European.

electric_blue68

(27,815 posts)
22. I was lucky my parents let me have all kinds of friends....
Fri Jun 12, 2026, 06:11 PM
Jun 12

So I had Black, Japanese, and Chinese friends; along w my white like myself friends. All welcomed in our home, and I could visit them.
Definitely raised to be anti-racist.

Welcomed all religions, and secular, too.

electric_blue68

(27,815 posts)
23. It has definitely gotten worse bc of drumphf's "permissions" to the racists to come out from under their rocks!!
Fri Jun 12, 2026, 06:16 PM
Jun 12

The Schonberg Library for Black Culture had a big exhibit on Reconstruction in the '90s.

I also learned alot about the decimation of Native American tribes - mostly on my own.

electric_blue68

(27,815 posts)
24. I do have a theory that I've on occaion shared....
Fri Jun 12, 2026, 06:45 PM
Jun 12

There was a study in the ?early 2000's that more white children were becoming less, or not racist.

Now, if that holds true, and Idk; what we've seen is actually ?less racism (perhaps) over all - so that the (especially too many in positions to cause trouble) racists sense this and howl, and cause even more trouble!!

When Obama was elected President; they could have chalked it up as a fluke!
But then, he got reelected! How was that possible?!
'WTH?!!" Thought the racists!

Some been doubling their efforts to diminish Black people's gains of more equalizing power. Obviously the VRA first in ?'11, or '13 striking own the coverage portion. And now total negation of it!
They found a perfect ally/supporter in drumphf and his people!

Plus certain States voter purges, etc.

Hopefully, the fiercest GOTV effort to take back The House, and Senate will be sucessful!. Then The Presidency to reverse things needed and send the racists back under their rocks!

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