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PCIntern

(28,756 posts)
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 08:30 AM Jun 9

"Everybody knows...." This is really outrageous rhetoric

Last edited Tue Jun 9, 2026, 09:16 AM - Edit history (1)

The Right Wing Fascist/Nazi-speak is utilizing this pair of words prior to each lie they tell. It is a presumptive condition that what is about to follow is a UNIVERSALLY ACCEPTED TRUTH.

Everybody knows that the elections were rigged

Everybody knows that solar and wind power is useless

Everybody knows that Joe Biden is enfeebled.

When I was in college, I had an acquaintance who, parenthetically, went on to a nationally renowned career in medicine. She was overwhelmingly opinionated about absolutely everything and would begin nine sentences out of ten with the words “You know,”. It was thus nearly impossible to discuss or argue with her because, well, “you know” you’d be on the wrong side of, well, any thesis.

It is a form of hypnosis and has aided Trump and his repulsive minions in basically forcing people to either agree with them or get off the bus. It is insidious and beyond undemocratic.

And one more thing: You know, everybody knows that these people are Nazis at heart.

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"Everybody knows...." This is really outrageous rhetoric (Original Post) PCIntern Jun 9 OP
I taught just the opposite NJCher Jun 9 #1
'You know' is the short form of - "You, know 'cause I don't" dave99 Jun 9 #22
"Speech crutch" ... I like that 👍🏽 live love laugh Jun 10 #32
What ticks me off gab13by13 Jun 9 #2
And ironically, oil spills and spewing smoke stacks are way uglier than wind turbines. SidneyR Jun 9 #5
"Evidence?" is the necessary immediate response. It's what set Trump ablaze 🔥 live love laugh Jun 10 #33
Inevitably, the person who says "Everybody says..." actually saw it as a meme on their cellphone FakeNoose Jun 9 #3
Oh yes, that is a classic con trick PatSeg Jun 9 #4
Everybody knows elected republicOns only care about the richest 1%. KS Toronado Jun 9 #6
Well it's true! live love laugh Jun 10 #34
Many people are saying... ToxMarz Jun 9 #7
Love this one.. Permanut Jun 9 #17
But how many of those people are even worth listening to? calimary Jun 9 #21
Everybody knows that Republicans are pedophiles RainCaster Jun 9 #8
When my students said 'everyone knows', I would answer 'everyone in the known universe?' cbabe Jun 9 #9
Proof? Evidence? All you have to do is look. Harker Jun 9 #10
I'll take How to Propaganda for $1000 Alex. littlemissmartypants Jun 9 #11
If you precede a statement with the phrase "everybody knows" then it is highly unlikely the statement Martin68 Jun 9 #12
Everyone knows...... SergeStorms Jun 9 #13
Your final sentence is intentionally ironic, no? Because yes, EVERYBODY DOES KNOW . ColoringFool Jun 9 #14
Yes of course PCIntern Jun 9 #15
That it should be the reply every time they say, everybody knows ,these people are Nazis MacKasey Jun 9 #28
The classic bandwagon fallacy SouthBayDem Jun 9 #16
Wanna know what everybody knows? "Everybody Knows, ' by Leonard Cohen. 3Hotdogs Jun 9 #18
Everybody knows . . . Aussie105 Jun 9 #19
Yes, it's like an immune response. Usually it's for the right reasons, and produces the right results. nt eppur_se_muova Jun 10 #31
"Everybody knows Todd Blanche is very honest"... kentuck Jun 9 #20
Just once when trump or someone like him Figarosmom Jun 9 #23
Everyone knows Trumpanzees swallow horseshit like it's chocolate JHB Jun 9 #24
🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢 PCIntern Jun 9 #26
Republicans love, love, LOVE to do this. Mike Johnson just fucking said it about the so-called "rigged" elections in CA Karasu Jun 9 #25
Leonard Cohen had something to say about "Everybody Knows" thucythucy Jun 9 #27
"EVERYBODY KNOWS" that Republicans want everyone who might vote against them, to be Jack Valentino Jun 9 #29
Trmp has a very small bag full of these cliches. That one that craps me off the most is "Believe me !". eppur_se_muova Jun 10 #30

NJCher

(43,765 posts)
1. I taught just the opposite
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 08:38 AM
Jun 9

In my communication classes. I told them to beware of “you know” because it means the speaker doesn’t know.

“You know” is a speech crutch for the inarticulate..

Points were taken off in speeches where the speaker said “you know” more than once.

gab13by13

(33,024 posts)
2. What ticks me off
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 08:46 AM
Jun 9

Is when “they” say, the American people.

The American people don’t want ugly wind turbines, etc.

FakeNoose

(42,885 posts)
3. Inevitably, the person who says "Everybody says..." actually saw it as a meme on their cellphone
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 09:21 AM
Jun 9

PatSeg

(53,910 posts)
4. Oh yes, that is a classic con trick
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 09:31 AM
Jun 9

And sometimes he'll say, "I know it and you do too". It eliminates any cause for discussion or debate.

Martin68

(28,220 posts)
12. If you precede a statement with the phrase "everybody knows" then it is highly unlikely the statement
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 11:04 AM
Jun 9

that follows it is true. If everybody knows something, then there is no need to state that fact up front. It's like admitting you are either lying or very unsure of your premise. And, as the OP points out, highly likely that the speaker is desperate to persuade others to believe something that just isn't true.

SergeStorms

(21,007 posts)
13. Everyone knows......
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 11:09 AM
Jun 9

that everything coming out of a Trumpublican's mouth is a lie, but some refuse to admit it if it furthers their own agenda.

EVERYONE KNOWS!

ColoringFool

(1,357 posts)
14. Your final sentence is intentionally ironic, no? Because yes, EVERYBODY DOES KNOW .
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 11:14 AM
Jun 9

"these people are Nazis at heart"!!

And if there are some who do not know this, they are missing a "sapiens" from Homo sapiens sapiens!

MacKasey

(1,543 posts)
28. That it should be the reply every time they say, everybody knows ,these people are Nazis
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 10:24 PM
Jun 9

Before I saw your post,
I was thinking you should say ,
when they say everybody knows,

You should reply with,
everybody knows you're full of s***

But I think yours is better
Thanks

SouthBayDem

(33,434 posts)
16. The classic bandwagon fallacy
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 12:14 PM
Jun 9
The bandwagon fallacy, also known as the appeal to the masses or appeal to common belief fallacy, is the logical fallacy of claiming that something is true because everyone believes it. Whether that belief is actually true or not doesn’t matter—if an arguer claims that a position is true because it’s popular, the arguer is using the bandwagon fallacy.
(Grammarly)

The thankfully former Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene had a famous example when she advocated for a national divorce on grounds that everyone she knows supported it: “We need to separate by red states and blue states and shrink the federal government. Everyone I talk to says this.”

Aussie105

(8,312 posts)
19. Everybody knows . . .
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 06:25 PM
Jun 9

that someone who uses that phrase is just full of bovine excrement.

And it triggers my old-man Oppositional Defiance brain activity.

"Oppositional defiance, or ODD, is a behavioral disorder characterized by a persistent pattern of anger, irritability, defiance, and vindictive behavior toward authority figures."

I see it as a defense mechanism rather than a 'behavioral disorder'.

eppur_se_muova

(42,855 posts)
31. Yes, it's like an immune response. Usually it's for the right reasons, and produces the right results. nt
Wed Jun 10, 2026, 02:39 AM
Jun 10

Figarosmom

(14,504 posts)
23. Just once when trump or someone like him
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 08:11 PM
Jun 9

Says (you know it's true or I know it and you know it or everybody knows ) to a reporter or show host, that reporter or show host would say shut the fuck up. Or just say, no I don't know that's true. Show me the proof. Or if that's true why haven't you sued? Just something to acknowledge it's a lie and they know it.

JHB

(38,387 posts)
24. Everyone knows Trumpanzees swallow horseshit like it's chocolate
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 08:50 PM
Jun 9

Try to point out what the brown stuff in the bowl actually is, and they'll give you a hateful glare and order seconds and thirds, with extra guano sauce, just to savor the appalled look on your face.

Karasu

(2,278 posts)
25. Republicans love, love, LOVE to do this. Mike Johnson just fucking said it about the so-called "rigged" elections in CA
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 09:03 PM
Jun 9

In their world, no one ever needs evidence to substantiate anything. After all, “everybody knows.”

Which is especially hilarious in the context of the uninformed, post-factual society they have created. If anything, “nobody knows” is closer to the truth in this country nowadays.

Jack Valentino

(5,373 posts)
29. "EVERYBODY KNOWS" that Republicans want everyone who might vote against them, to be
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 11:23 PM
Jun 9

sick, starving, and/or DEAD as soon as possible!
(or disenfranchised from voting through Trump's various schemes,
most of which are being defeated in the courts!)


Well, maybe 'everybody' doesn't 'know' that yet---
but more and more people who previously supported Trump are figuring it out---
and Trump and the Republicans aren't doing anything to help themselves---
instead, every day they make things worse for themselves!


Forget 2020, forget 2006 and 2008, forget 1974----

For 2026 and 2028, I'm beginning to envision "Democratic wave" elections
in Rooseveltian proportions !!!!!! (Think 1932 and 1934)


((YES, they are doing everything they can for the House of Representatives
with redistricting before the next census--- but it won't be enough to save their House---
and statewide votes for U.S. Senators CAN'T BE gerrymandered,
since they are state-wide votes... I have expectations that
at least ONE Republican senator whom they thought was 'safe',
will FAIL to be re-elected in 2026--- and by 2028, who knows??))


The Republicans will have no idea what hit them---
partly because they believe all their own lies about "what the people want"
and "how great the economy is",
and partly because all the policy shifts they passed in their 'big beautiful bill'
are bound to hit the poor rural red states (their party base) to the worst effects !!!


The SNAP work requirements for old people (age 55-64) and cuts are already
beginning to take effect---- and the cuts and 'work requirements' for Medicaid
are scheduled to begin in January 2027--- well before the 2028 elections!

(If the congressional Republicans had a brain in their heads, which they don't,
they would have scheduled BOTH things to begin not before January 2029! LOL)

((And of COURSE their refusal to renew the larger subsidies for 'Obamacare'
drove the cost of health insurance up for EVERYONE who had to buy it--- and more people blamed
the Republicans rather than the Democrats for the 'government shutdown'
over that issue!))


An electoral 'nuclear bomb' is set to detonate in November---
and it's relative 'throw-weight' is increasing, day by intolerable day!















eppur_se_muova

(42,855 posts)
30. Trmp has a very small bag full of these cliches. That one that craps me off the most is "Believe me !".
Wed Jun 10, 2026, 02:38 AM
Jun 10

It's not an explanation, it's not making an argument. It's just an order (or, at best, a pitch) to believe him despite a total lack of supporting evidence or logic. It's a dead giveaway that he has no point of argument that's even remotely convincing. All he can do is beg, and hope his "charisma" carries the day.

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