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Celerity

(55,145 posts)
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 01:37 AM 15 hrs ago

WTF: Fetterman Vows to Wear Suit Every Day If Graham Platner Can Prove He Never Sent 'Dick Pics' to Underage Girls

Last edited Mon Jun 8, 2026, 02:12 AM - Edit history (1)



https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/fetterman-vows-wear-suit-every-152556387.html

Sen. John Fetterman (D-PA) is vowing to ditch his hoodie and wear a suit every day if Democratic Maine Senate hopeful Graham Platner can prove he never sent "dick pics" to minors. Fetterman joined Kayleigh McEnany on Fox News' Saturday in America where he declared himself "the one honest Democrat" about Platner amid the candidate's growing list of controversies.

Platner has faced a wave of controversies amid his campaign to flip Sen. Susan Collins's (R-ME) seat. On top of a Nazi image tattoo he's since had covered (and he said he didn't know what it was when he got it), Platner has also faced backlash over past Reddit comments about fellow combat veterans. He's also now facing reports that his wife warned his campaign about early sexting incidents with other women early in his marriage.

Platner called the reports "gossip" and "journalistic malpractice." Fetterman raised issue with Platner's alleged use of Kik, a messaging app that has long had issues with pedophiles and child abuse. "That dude was on Kik for a decade. I mean, do you know what Kik is? Just anyone watching, Google what Kik is. You know, they have serious underage problems with people that are in there. And they go there because it can be anonymous and they can do all kinds of deprave things," Fetterman said.

There is no evidence Platner ever had inappropriate exchanges with minors, but Fetterman argued this can't be proven unless all of these alleged messages are actually released.

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Fetterman Secret Israel Handler Exposed - How a little-known writer became one of the senator's closest confidants.




https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/john-fetterman-israel-palestine-david-safier-aipac.html

https://archive.ph/cXJwN


David “Dovi” Safier shared this selfie with John Fetterman on social media, expressing his gratitude for the senator. Photo: X/Safier

Over the last three years, Democratic Party support for Israel has undergone a dramatic reversal. In 2024, 18 Democratic senators backed a measure to block arms sales to the country. In April of this year, it was 40. Polls show about two-thirds of Democratic voters sympathize with Palestinians more than Israelis. And even former White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel — who grew up spending his summers in the country and whose middle name is Israel — has recently begun calling for an end to carte blanche U.S. military aid. “More and more Democrats,” Senator Bernie Sanders told NOTUS last month, are “seeing the light.”

And then there’s Senator John Fetterman. While the rest of his party reluctantly retreats from an ironclad allyship, the Pennsylvania senator has promised to be the “last” Democrat standing with Israel. His political identity is increasingly defined by a blanket defense of the country. Online, Fetterman frequently mocks critics of Israel. In interviews, he has pushed back on claims that Israel’s actions in Gaza constitute genocide. When pro-Palestine protesters came to his home, Fetterman waved an Israeli flag from his roof; asked on Meet the Press about Israel’s pagers attack in Lebanon, which wounded more than 3,000 people and killed 12, the senator said, “I love it.” On May 19, Fetterman was the only Democratic senator to vote against a War Powers Resolution intended to stymie the U.S.-Israel war against Iran. “President Trump has been willing to do what’s right and necessary to produce real peace in the region,” he said when the war began. “God bless the United States, our great military, and Israel,” Fetterman added, as if these elements constitute some kind of geopolitical holy trinity.

By Democratic Party standards, Fetterman’s position on Israel is extreme. There are a multitude of theories as to why: The senator is a contrarian; he enjoys the attention; he has convinced himself that he is indisputably in the right. But people close to Fetterman cite a previously unreported factor too: Behind the scenes, Fetterman is being encouraged and counseled by a little-known man in his late 30s named David “Dovi” Safier.

Safier, a writer of Jewish history and fundraiser for Orthodox causes, has no public background in government or counseling politicians on Capitol Hill. He is not an official staffer or paid outside adviser. A few years ago, he “just kind of appeared” in the senator’s orbit, one former Fetterman staffer remembers. And then, suddenly, he seemed to be everywhere. Staffers would walk into Fetterman’s office, only to find Safier sitting in the room. When the senator went to Israel in 2025, Safier joined him on the trip; when Fetterman filmed Real Time With Bill Maher, Safier met up with him in Los Angeles. The two are constantly texting and talking, according to multiple former Fetterman staffers, and Safier has unofficially operated as a top campaign fundraiser and senior adviser. He has even set up and attended sensitive meetings with foreign officials; in some cases, he is the only person staffing those meetings, I’ve been told.

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WTF: Fetterman Vows to Wear Suit Every Day If Graham Platner Can Prove He Never Sent 'Dick Pics' to Underage Girls (Original Post) Celerity 15 hrs ago OP
... BannonsLiver 15 hrs ago #1
Post removed Post removed 15 hrs ago #2
De rec. What a load of RW broadbrush bollocks attacking our Party. And it's your very first post, too. Celerity 15 hrs ago #3
Message auto-removed Name removed 15 hrs ago #4
Bullshit, the dross you posted is in no way 'truth'. Celerity 15 hrs ago #5
Yes, truth needs to be said, but you didn't say any truth. SunSeeker 15 hrs ago #6
Fuck Fetterman buzzycrumbhunger 15 hrs ago #7
his brain seems to be malfunctioning badly LR3 7 hrs ago #27
Hmm... it's darned near impossible to prove you did NOT do something. And allegorical oracle 3 hrs ago #109
you cannot disprove a negative UpInArms 1 hr ago #132
I'm not allowed to say bad things about Fetterman. Iggo 14 hrs ago #8
Fett and "Dovi" can spend their time bowling oasis 14 hrs ago #9
Nah, too nice. They should spend eternity in Gaza. AloeVera 7 hrs ago #32
Can we officially put aside the BS that Platner is the next Fetterman now? SSJVegeta 14 hrs ago #10
I think the concern is more about his future policies, LisaL 9 hrs ago #13
That concern is also dead considering this feud is about his policies SSJVegeta 7 hrs ago #24
That's not really how proving things goes EdmondDantes_ 13 hrs ago #11
That was my take as well PatSeg 4 hrs ago #84
someone told him about "you can't prove a negative" eShirl 10 hrs ago #12
Classic "when did you stop beating your wife?" tactic. Who is paying this guy? Scrivener7 9 hrs ago #14
Fetterman is also bashing LisaL 9 hrs ago #15
Because his opponent was Dr. Oz n/t Shrek 9 hrs ago #20
I am talking about the primary. LisaL 8 hrs ago #21
He was running against a centrist is why Emile 7 hrs ago #30
Fetterman is the worthless one - a worthless progressive. He is now known as Trump's favorite Democrat. Nixie 6 hrs ago #37
I would agree with YOU, but then we both would be Emile 6 hrs ago #38
Fetterman is Trump's favorite Democrat. Google that. Nixie 6 hrs ago #40
Google Fetterman's voting record. He Emile 6 hrs ago #42
Fetterman is Trump adjacent. He votes for Trump nominees when no other Democrat will. Nixie 6 hrs ago #45
You go with that. He is still a worthless centrist. Emile 6 hrs ago #50
Fetterman is a worthless progressive. You don't know what he is because he was dishonest. Nixie 6 hrs ago #61
Nope, his voting record proves he is centrist. Emile 6 hrs ago #63
Fetterman is Trump adjacent. No other Democrat votes Nixie 5 hrs ago #71
No matter how you turn it over the view Emile 4 hrs ago #89
It doesn't work like that, and you know it. Money was sent to Fetterman's victory fund as it was to all the primary Nixie 3 hrs ago #91
Rewriting history is your strong suit. Emile 3 hrs ago #93
The facts of Fetterman's campaign are all over the internet, though. Here is he is running his "Bernie inspired" Nixie 3 hrs ago #96
I know, the centrist Fetterman lied about being Emile 3 hrs ago #100
That's not how it works, and you know it. Fetterman is Trump adjacent. Nixie 3 hrs ago #101
He votes like a centrist. Therefore he Emile 3 hrs ago #104
Fetterman is Trump adjacent. You have no idea what he is. Nixie 3 hrs ago #106
But I do know what he is. His voting Emile 3 hrs ago #108
Here is the centrist Conor Lamb wondering who Fetterman really is, as we all wonder. Nixie 3 hrs ago #112
Are you saying progessives in general are worthless or Fetterman is worthless as a progressive? AloeVera 5 hrs ago #77
AloeVera, you are so damn smart. mr715 3 hrs ago #95
If you followed along, you wouldn't need to trouble yourself. "worthless centrist" is what my response was about. Nixie 1 hr ago #135
No trouble at all. AloeVera 45 min ago #142
That's funny that you think you know what I saw 4 hours ago. I won't waste my time Nixie 32 min ago #143
Please do not tell me what I post about. AloeVera 27 min ago #148
Hilarious. You are intentionally jumbling what I wrote Nixie 21 min ago #149
Lamb is a class act MustLoveBeagles 6 hrs ago #57
He very well may be, but he ran as a centrist Emile 6 hrs ago #59
Maybe they should have listened then Boo1 1 hr ago #134
Yes, and it's nice to see him still out there and AOC realizing she was wrong about him. Nixie 6 hrs ago #62
Because before the stroke he was Bettie 8 hrs ago #23
My grandma had a stroke LisaL 7 hrs ago #26
I'm glad you didn't lose your grandma Bettie 7 hrs ago #28
Yes, my grandma recovered and lived for many more years after her stroke, LisaL 6 hrs ago #44
Same thing happened to my late aunt Rob H. 4 hrs ago #81
This message was self-deleted by its author FarPoint 1 hr ago #128
AIPAC is truly working hard, Fetterman is a sick POS. But his crazy is only going to help Platner Nanjeanne 9 hrs ago #16
That confuses me MustLoveBeagles 3 hrs ago #90
How's your hard drive(s) looking, John? durablend 9 hrs ago #17
"Kind of appeared." Kid Berwyn 9 hrs ago #18
Can Fetterman prove he never sent dick pics to underage girls? yellowcanine 9 hrs ago #19
Every picture of him is a dick pic. Johonny 7 hrs ago #25
Centrist Fetterman involving himself by attacking a progressive candidate. Emile 8 hrs ago #22
Centrist? Boo1 7 hrs ago #33
Senator Lamb lost because he was running Emile 7 hrs ago #36
It wasnt the stroke Boo1 6 hrs ago #43
I am not convinced this is the results of a stroke either. LisaL 6 hrs ago #46
And held him at gunpoint. Boo1 5 hrs ago #68
A shithead centrist who lied, and pretended to be Emile 6 hrs ago #48
Yea, you got to be careful LisaL 6 hrs ago #49
Got it. Quit believing centrist bs. Emile 6 hrs ago #53
I think at this point Fetterman would qualify as a republican. LisaL 6 hrs ago #54
Actually he has a slightly better record Emile 6 hrs ago #56
Bernie's candidates should be vetted more. Fetterman is Trump Nixie 5 hrs ago #72
Schumer's candidate had a stroke Emile 5 hrs ago #73
Bernie endorsed Fetterman. Bernie's candidates should be Nixie 5 hrs ago #74
Schumer endorsed candidate Fetterman Emile 5 hrs ago #75
Oh here it comes, the blame Bernie for the voters message. mr715 3 hrs ago #94
My posts are about Fetterman being a Sanders' endorsed candidate. Nixie 3 hrs ago #99
No, please don't thank me for my concern -- I have none. mr715 3 hrs ago #102
Thanks for your concern and commitment in trying to put me down. Nixie 3 hrs ago #103
You really do like to assign the bro label a lot. mr715 3 hrs ago #107
Wow. Now look how bothered you are. Nixie 3 hrs ago #110
Again, no concern so no need to thank me. mr715 3 hrs ago #111
And I think of why someone would vote for Susan Collins 3 times. Nixie 3 hrs ago #113
Ah, okay, just so its clear. mr715 3 hrs ago #114
What's clear to me is that I don't need your labels. Nixie 2 hrs ago #116
Why'd you need my labels when you're so good at giving them out yourself? mr715 2 hrs ago #119
Thanks for your continued concern about me personally. Nixie 1 hr ago #123
. mr715 1 hr ago #124
You are anything but Nixie 1 hr ago #125
. mr715 1 hr ago #126
Thanks for your concern Nixie 1 hr ago #127
What was centrist about Lamb's platform? betsuni 4 hrs ago #87
Conor Lamb's centrist platform Emile 4 hrs ago #88
Have just read a bit about him, he's focused on constituents, local issues, practical, knowledgable. betsuni 3 hrs ago #105
Thank you, it is an obvious rabbit hole that poster is focused on to smear anyone not a Berniecrat as a Nixie 1 hr ago #137
That poster is embarrassed by their former support for Fetterman and is busy retconning him as a centrist in 2022. BannonsLiver 2 hrs ago #121
It's not "AIPAC" or the stroke. He's just an asshole. themaguffin 7 hrs ago #29
I agree. comradebillyboy 7 hrs ago #34
As if it's physically impossible to be nutty all by yourself, it HAS to be a conspiracy (esp.AIPAC). betsuni 5 hrs ago #76
I'll wear a tie on days beginning with T thucythucy 7 hrs ago #31
Hmm, if every accusation is a confession... leftstreet 7 hrs ago #35
Let's see how the primary and midterms go... gulliver 6 hrs ago #39
As Fetterman inanely attempts to straddle two parties, I'm reminded of something former AG John Ashcroft once said: RedWhiteBlueIsRacist 6 hrs ago #41
I'm no Platner fan but Fetterman is stooping to ugly levels with this one. Unacceptable. nt Blasphemer 6 hrs ago #47
Yep, I understand answering if asked that he doesn't approve, but Fetterman seems to be going out of his way LisaL 6 hrs ago #52
Since Such a Negative Is Impossible to Prove, This Is Just a Publicity Stunt. MineralMan 6 hrs ago #51
Sure after they release the unredacted Epstein Files. Ritabert 6 hrs ago #55
If you want to talk someone, Fetterman, how about the "dickless" Republicans that are afraid of Trump? walkingman 6 hrs ago #58
How does one prove they haven't sent a picture? 33taw 6 hrs ago #60
How can you prove a negative John? MustLoveBeagles 6 hrs ago #64
Nobody gives a shit what he wears. Unless you count that he's a turncoat. Walleye 6 hrs ago #65
He should just switch parties at this point and get it over with. Initech 3 hrs ago #98
I think he enjoys the power like Manchin did and Sinema Walleye 1 hr ago #131
It's pretty weird that the same group of political consultants gave us both Fetterman and Platner. N/T lapucelle 6 hrs ago #66
I look for Schumer to do the samething Emile 5 hrs ago #69
In addition, Senator Sanders is sitting on a $19,000,000+ war chest. lapucelle 4 hrs ago #78
Bernie is a good friend of democrats. I Emile 4 hrs ago #79
2016 is a decade ago. mr715 2 hrs ago #120
Anonymous? Timewas 5 hrs ago #67
republicons must be convinced platner can beat coliins FoxNewsSucks 5 hrs ago #70
Sure he will. greatauntoftriplets 4 hrs ago #80
The burden of proof Timewas 4 hrs ago #82
And some people here are on the side of Collins and Fetterman SamuelTheThird 4 hrs ago #83
It helps to remember that there are far fewer young progressives left here Rob H. 21 min ago #150
Gross. mr715 4 hrs ago #85
Zippy the Pinhead thinks he is an honest Democrat? Americanme 4 hrs ago #86
Can Fetterman prove he didn't??? /NT sdfernando 3 hrs ago #92
Of course not. He can claim he didn't. MineralMan 2 hrs ago #122
It is, but I wonder if Fetterman thought he was being clever? AloeVera 1 hr ago #129
Yes, what you said FullySupportDems 1 hr ago #133
God, Fetterman is the fucking worst. Initech 3 hrs ago #97
"Let them Fight" rogue emissary 3 hrs ago #115
He did not say suit would not have short pants. Sneederbunk 2 hrs ago #117
The look worked for Angus Young EdmondDantes_ 30 min ago #145
Fetterman needs to sit down and shut his Alliepoo 2 hrs ago #118
In case no one mentioned it, isn't "can prove he never sent..." asking him to prove a negative? FullySupportDems 1 hr ago #130
You can if you a stroke so bad it knocks off your hoodie. mr715 1 hr ago #138
It's a shame because he recovered well FullySupportDems 27 min ago #147
Perhaps Federman Bluestocking 1 hr ago #136
Or Fetty may go full Manchin and endorse the POS Collins Celerity 12 min ago #151
At least Fetterman was/still is a better choice than Oz. Norrrm 58 min ago #139
Dear Sen. Fetterman, how in the FUCK does one prove they DIDN'T do something? 11 Bravo 47 min ago #140
Thank you so much. AloeVera 31 min ago #144
With my blessing! 11 Bravo 28 min ago #146
Everyon knows Mossfern 46 min ago #141

Response to Celerity (Original post)

Celerity

(55,145 posts)
3. De rec. What a load of RW broadbrush bollocks attacking our Party. And it's your very first post, too.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 01:48 AM
15 hrs ago

Welcome to DU.

Enjoy your stay.

Response to Celerity (Reply #3)

Celerity

(55,145 posts)
5. Bullshit, the dross you posted is in no way 'truth'.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 01:54 AM
15 hrs ago

Pro-tip:

You outed yourself from the start with this, when you said:

led by the democrat party really hates Jews now.



SunSeeker

(58,393 posts)
6. Yes, truth needs to be said, but you didn't say any truth.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 01:56 AM
15 hrs ago

And there’s no such thing as the “democrat party.” Using that right wing misnaming of our party is quite a tell. The name of our party is the Democratic Party.

buzzycrumbhunger

(2,288 posts)
7. Fuck Fetterman
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 02:03 AM
15 hrs ago

Seriously, he’s nothing more than a schlubby stooge now, for whatever reason. What an embarrassment he’s become—and his brain seems to be malfunctioning badly enough that he seems to have no clue what he’s doing or why it’s important that it’s alienating the people he swore to represent…

I normally love an underdog, but no--repackaging himself as a guy with some semblance of fashion sense or respect for his position would do nothing to make him fundamentally more palatable.

LR3

(205 posts)
27. his brain seems to be malfunctioning badly
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 09:22 AM
7 hrs ago

I really that that it is. Since his stroke, the guy is totally different. He still needs a phone to translate spoken language so that he can understand it.

He really should step down due to his brain injury, but the injury itself is preventing him from understanding its impact. Wish his loved ones would intervene.

allegorical oracle

(6,639 posts)
109. Hmm... it's darned near impossible to prove you did NOT do something. And
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 01:57 PM
3 hrs ago

it's up to the accuser(s) to prove you did.

UpInArms

(55,512 posts)
132. you cannot disprove a negative
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 03:34 PM
1 hr ago

you can only prove an action, you cannot prove that you did not do something

that is proven by its absence and ... shakes head and walks away

Iggo

(50,093 posts)
8. I'm not allowed to say bad things about Fetterman.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 02:25 AM
14 hrs ago

You guys are doing fine, though.

Keep up the good work.

oasis

(54,136 posts)
9. Fett and "Dovi" can spend their time bowling
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 02:41 AM
14 hrs ago

together after the senator’s term expires.

AloeVera

(4,535 posts)
32. Nah, too nice. They should spend eternity in Gaza.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 09:49 AM
7 hrs ago

They had a hand in creating that hellscape.

SSJVegeta

(3,289 posts)
10. Can we officially put aside the BS that Platner is the next Fetterman now?
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 03:00 AM
14 hrs ago

This increasing hostility from Fetterrman should make that obvious.

LisaL

(47,838 posts)
13. I think the concern is more about his future policies,
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 07:38 AM
9 hrs ago

not that he and Fetterman will become best buddies.

EdmondDantes_

(2,212 posts)
11. That's not really how proving things goes
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 03:15 AM
13 hrs ago

Can't prove a negative and all. Unless there's a specific contention that I'm not aware of, there's no claim Platner sent pictures of any sort to minors. An absurd and undignified demand from Fetterman.

LisaL

(47,838 posts)
15. Fetterman is also bashing
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 07:49 AM
9 hrs ago

other democrats while he is at it. Why did we elect him, exactly?

Emile

(43,779 posts)
30. He was running against a centrist is why
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 09:31 AM
7 hrs ago

he won. He ran as a left-wing progressive, then had a life changing stroke. So we ended up with a centrist anyways. Sucks, but that's what happened.

Nixie

(18,219 posts)
37. Fetterman is the worthless one - a worthless progressive. He is now known as Trump's favorite Democrat.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 10:20 AM
6 hrs ago

So you don't know what Fetterman is since he misrepresented himself.

Here is AOC admitting she was wrong about Conor Lamb. All the smearing of a good candidate like Lamb and we wound up with a worthless progressive.

https://www.newsbreak.com/daily-mail-560402/3866770005834-fetterman-s-blunt-three-word-response-to-aoc-after-she-complained-dems-need-to-fight-harder

Fetterman claimed the 'progressive' lane in the contest while Lamb was considered more of a moderate, before Fetterman won and eventually took the seat over Dr. Oz in the general election .

Ocasio-Cortez did not endorse a candidate in the primary but did back Fetterman in the general, something she appears to be having second thoughts about based on a tweet to Lamb earlier Friday.

Responding to a post where Lamb slammed Fetterman for his vote, she wrote: 'I was wrong about you and I’m sorry,' adding the crying emoji.

She asked: 'Where do I submit my Conor Lamb apology form?'

Lamb responded: 'No need - clearly we have been on the same side of the oligarchy question (against) and protecting social security and Medicare (for)….lets make that team as big as possible. Good luck on the road.'

Emile

(43,779 posts)
38. I would agree with YOU, but then we both would be
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 10:24 AM
6 hrs ago

WRONG!

FETTERMAN IS A CENTRIST

Don't believe me, Google it.

Nixie

(18,219 posts)
40. Fetterman is Trump's favorite Democrat. Google that.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 10:28 AM
6 hrs ago

You have no idea what Fetterman is. All that is known is that he got in our system solely because of Bernie’s endorsement as a progressive.

Emile

(43,779 posts)
42. Google Fetterman's voting record. He
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 10:34 AM
6 hrs ago

votes with democrats 92% of the time. Centrist Sinema voted with democrats 93% of the time. Centrist Manchin voted with democrats 89% of the time.

If you like centrists, Fetterman is your man!

Nixie

(18,219 posts)
45. Fetterman is Trump adjacent. He votes for Trump nominees when no other Democrat will.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 10:37 AM
6 hrs ago
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/18/john-fetterman-democrat-trump-progressive

And, despite his belief that one cannot work with crazy, Fetterman is proving to be the Democrat most willing to collaborate with Trump, claiming his colleagues need to stop “freaking out” over the president. It’s a pretty dramatic turnaround for a man whose campaign once sold T-shirts with the slogan “Trump is a jagoff”.

"For now, it seems that Democrats will have to take Fetterman as he comes: a progressive turned not-at-all progressive, who is more open to working with Trump than anyone else in his party and who seemingly now believes that it is possible to work with crazy."

Nixie

(18,219 posts)
61. Fetterman is a worthless progressive. You don't know what he is because he was dishonest.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 10:53 AM
6 hrs ago

"For now, it seems that Democrats will have to take Fetterman as he comes: a progressive turned not-at-all progressive, who is more open to working with Trump than anyone else in his party and who seemingly now believes that it is possible to work with crazy."

edit: now Fetterman and Platner are fighting over who is a bigger creep. Really sad developments for Bernie's candidates.

Nixie

(18,219 posts)
71. Fetterman is Trump adjacent. No other Democrat votes
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 11:25 AM
5 hrs ago

for Trump nominees like Fetterman. Fetterman is a Bernie candidate.

Emile

(43,779 posts)
89. No matter how you turn it over the view
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 01:00 PM
4 hrs ago

is, Fetterman is a centrist. He was vetted and supported by Chuck Schumer. Did Chuck know he was lying about being a left-wing progressive?

Nixie

(18,219 posts)
91. It doesn't work like that, and you know it. Money was sent to Fetterman's victory fund as it was to all the primary
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 01:25 PM
3 hrs ago

winners.

Rewriting history is not your strong suit.

Fetterman was a Bernie-endorsed "progressive." Conor Lamb was the centrist in the primary campaign between the so-called "establishment" candidate and Bernie's progressive.

Emile

(43,779 posts)
93. Rewriting history is your strong suit.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 01:29 PM
3 hrs ago

But, not everyone is fooled by it anymore.

Nixie

(18,219 posts)
96. The facts of Fetterman's campaign are all over the internet, though. Here is he is running his "Bernie inspired"
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 01:35 PM
3 hrs ago

campaign.

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/the-bernie-inspired-candidate-for-senate-in-pennsylvania/

Braddock, Pennsylvania—John Fetterman says that if it wasn’t for Bernie Sanders, he would never have dreamed of running for the US Senate in Pennsylvania. “When Sanders ran, that opened up a level of awareness in this state, that the issues I care about can make a viable campaign,” Fetterman told me. Fetterman’s campaign themes are indeed familiar if you’ve been watching Sanders’s rise:....

Emile

(43,779 posts)
100. I know, the centrist Fetterman lied about being
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 01:43 PM
3 hrs ago

a left-wing progressive. That's how he beat the Centrist Conor Lamb. People in Pennsylvania were voting against the centrist for a left-wing progressive. Chuck Schumer vetted and endorsed him. Did Chuck know he was a centrist? Did AIPAC tell Chuck that's our man?

Nixie

(18,219 posts)
101. That's not how it works, and you know it. Fetterman is Trump adjacent.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 01:47 PM
3 hrs ago

No one knows what he is. You certainly don't.

All the primary winners were supported with money to their victory funds. That's how it works. Fetterman was a Bernie endorsed candidate. edit: and now your AIPAC rabbit hole. lol

Emile

(43,779 posts)
104. He votes like a centrist. Therefore he
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 01:52 PM
3 hrs ago

is a centrist.

I already told you his lies is what got him elected.

If you wanted a centrist in that senate seat, you got your man.

Nixie

(18,219 posts)
106. Fetterman is Trump adjacent. You have no idea what he is.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 01:55 PM
3 hrs ago

"Unlike many of his Democratic colleagues, Fetterman voted to confirm some of Mr. Trump's Cabinet picks, including Attorney General Pam Bondi."

Nixie

(18,219 posts)
112. Here is the centrist Conor Lamb wondering who Fetterman really is, as we all wonder.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 02:00 PM
3 hrs ago
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/05/john-fetterman-donald-trump-favorite-democrat/

He’s sided with Republicans on denying immigrants due process, voted to confirm a 2020 election denier to lead the Department of Justice, and approved a GOP budget that freed Trump to slash spending without oversight. His recent actions have enraged progressives, mystified colleagues, and alarmed former and current aides.

Even Conor Lamb, who ran to Fetterman’s right in Pennsylvania’s 2022 Democratic Senate primary, doesn’t know what to make of the metamorphosis.

AloeVera

(4,535 posts)
77. Are you saying progessives in general are worthless or Fetterman is worthless as a progressive?
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 12:01 PM
5 hrs ago

I noted you like to repeat the phrase " worthless progressive" so I want to be clear on what you mean here.

I also noted that after making the claim he is a worthless progressive, you say " You don't know what he is because he was dishonest." Seems a bit contradictory.

Your on-edit is cute. Here is what Platner actually said on X.

"It’s not the hoodie, dude. It’s because you’ve become a stooge for AIPAC and the Republican party.”

As always, Platner nails it. I can hear the knives sharpening already.

Nixie

(18,219 posts)
135. If you followed along, you wouldn't need to trouble yourself. "worthless centrist" is what my response was about.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 03:41 PM
1 hr ago

Your post is quite a jumble of misunderstandings, so I'm not going to bother with helping you follow along.

I was waiting until you wrote 'AIPAC' and sure enough, it's in your post. That's the answer to everything, so of course that's all you are focused on. Just say AIPAC and your knives are out. So predictable.

AloeVera

(4,535 posts)
142. No trouble at all.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 04:21 PM
45 min ago

But you are wrong. It was you who first used the "worthless" pejorative and applied it to progressives. The poster before you had simply used the term "centrist".

My questions were rhetorical and though you didn't respond, you didn't need to. I got it.

I find it helps to review my own posts before I try to gotcha someone with not having read them. Helpful tip.

Platner is bang-on about AIPAC but again you are wrong as I rarely bother to mention AIPAC, only when relevant as in this case. I was curious about what Platner said since you characterized it as a fight to "see who was the bigger creep" or some such. I suppose you are right, supporting AIPAC now is kind of creepy.
Cheers and remember only one day left!!



Nixie

(18,219 posts)
143. That's funny that you think you know what I saw 4 hours ago. I won't waste my time
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 04:34 PM
32 min ago

with your helpful tips since you weren't here hours ago, so you have no idea what that post said. Here's a tip: edit is a thing.

But the edit doesn't explain any of your other misunderstandings, so I won't bother with them, as well.

You are again trying to confuse things by saying you "rarely bother" to mention AIPAC. That's your own self-own since it's almost all you post about.

Then you go on to jumble up all the other posts that were made hours ago.

One day left? Is Fetterman resigning his Senate seat? Wow, that would be great to get a real Democrat in there.

AloeVera

(4,535 posts)
148. Please do not tell me what I post about.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 04:39 PM
27 min ago

I stand by what I said and have the receipts.

But I won't waste any more time with you. So long.

Nixie

(18,219 posts)
149. Hilarious. You are intentionally jumbling what I wrote
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 04:45 PM
21 min ago

about but then tell me not to do exactly what you’re doing to me.

Again, all hat no cattle with your attacks on me.

And all I see you post about is AIPAC.

Boo1

(567 posts)
134. Maybe they should have listened then
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 03:37 PM
1 hr ago

A lot of us were saying that Fetterman was a bastard during the primary, but alas....




"What John’s campaign is about — and what the progressive message is about — is that we are going to transform this country and create a government that works for all of us, not just wealthy campaign contributors,” said Sanders

Nixie

(18,219 posts)
62. Yes, and it's nice to see him still out there and AOC realizing she was wrong about him.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 10:56 AM
6 hrs ago

Bettie

(19,953 posts)
23. Because before the stroke he was
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 08:55 AM
8 hrs ago

a different guy entirely.

I've seen it happen to people I've known.

It's heartbreaking to see, if it's someone you knew well.

A relative of mine turned from a loving, caring, funny woman to a someone I never wanted to be in the same room with after her stroke.

Granted, this was before they could do intervention, but it was a night and day change....or would that be day and night.

LisaL

(47,838 posts)
26. My grandma had a stroke
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 09:16 AM
7 hrs ago

and took a while to recover. But thankfully her personality didn't change.

Bettie

(19,953 posts)
28. I'm glad you didn't lose your grandma
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 09:23 AM
7 hrs ago

that way, because it is heartbreaking to see the person you knew just...gone and there's a stranger who looks like them.

LisaL

(47,838 posts)
44. Yes, my grandma recovered and lived for many more years after her stroke,
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 10:36 AM
6 hrs ago

without a personality change.

Rob H.

(5,972 posts)
81. Same thing happened to my late aunt
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 12:27 PM
4 hrs ago

Before her first stroke she was a sweet little old lady, and afterward she was as mean as a snake. Once she was put on an antidepressant (iirc) she got much, much better, but the initial change was shocking.

Response to Bettie (Reply #23)

Nanjeanne

(6,759 posts)
16. AIPAC is truly working hard, Fetterman is a sick POS. But his crazy is only going to help Platner
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 07:56 AM
9 hrs ago

This from the yahoo piece is a bit bizarre

Platner has also faced backlash over past Reddit comments about fellow combat veterans

I posted an article by Jacobin after they reviewed his entire more than 10 years worth of Reddit posits and not sure what they are talking about re his fellow combat veterans. From what the deep dive mentioned he was mostly supporting them and guiding them on how to get help and take care of themselves. https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221290750

yellowcanine

(36,856 posts)
19. Can Fetterman prove he never sent dick pics to underage girls?
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 08:00 AM
9 hrs ago

If not, just shut your pie hole, John!

Johonny

(26,749 posts)
25. Every picture of him is a dick pic.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 09:14 AM
7 hrs ago

Biggest dick in the Democratic party with the smallest manhood... sad really.

Boo1

(567 posts)
33. Centrist?
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 09:58 AM
7 hrs ago

The only reason we dont have a Senator Lamb is because Bernie jumped in to endorse and stump with Fetterman.

Emile

(43,779 posts)
36. Senator Lamb lost because he was running
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 10:06 AM
7 hrs ago

on a centrist platform against John Fetterman who was running as a left-wing progressive. John had a life changing stroke, and we ended up with a worthless centrist anyways. Sucks

So if you supported Lamb for his centrist platform, you should be embracing Fetterman.

Boo1

(567 posts)
43. It wasnt the stroke
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 10:35 AM
6 hrs ago

He was a shithead before that.

PA passed on an outstanding Democrat to elect a POS because "progressive."

LisaL

(47,838 posts)
46. I am not convinced this is the results of a stroke either.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 10:38 AM
6 hrs ago

As I recall he chased a jogger in his truck because he wrongly suspected that jogger of something or other. That was before his stroke.

Emile

(43,779 posts)
48. A shithead centrist who lied, and pretended to be
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 10:39 AM
6 hrs ago

a left-wing progressive to get elected. Got it, thanks.

LisaL

(47,838 posts)
49. Yea, you got to be careful
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 10:41 AM
6 hrs ago

and not elect people who pretend to be something they are not.

LisaL

(47,838 posts)
54. I think at this point Fetterman would qualify as a republican.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 10:45 AM
6 hrs ago

I mean, he is bashing other democrats over Platner's case. And it's not like republicans aren't nominating candidates who are far from perfect.

Emile

(43,779 posts)
56. Actually he has a slightly better record
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 10:47 AM
6 hrs ago

than Joe Manchin voting with the democratic party.

Nixie

(18,219 posts)
72. Bernie's candidates should be vetted more. Fetterman is Trump
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 11:28 AM
5 hrs ago

adjacent now. No one can say what he is because he was dishonest.

Emile

(43,779 posts)
75. Schumer endorsed candidate Fetterman
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 11:48 AM
5 hrs ago

Last edited Mon Jun 8, 2026, 12:26 PM - Edit history (1)

(who he gave one million dollars to campaign on) should have been vetted more. Maybe Schumer did vet him and he liked what he discovered. Both of them are big fans of AIPAC. We'll never know.

mr715

(4,620 posts)
94. Oh here it comes, the blame Bernie for the voters message.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 01:30 PM
3 hrs ago

It is almost like people here fail to recognize people LIKE what Bernie Sanders is selling.

We will hold on to our grievances like a coal miner's widow.

This is why we lose.

The Democratic coalition isn't YOU

Nixie

(18,219 posts)
99. My posts are about Fetterman being a Sanders' endorsed candidate.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 01:42 PM
3 hrs ago

And how some can't live with the facts that he ran as a Bernie progressive, but now is a Trump adjacent toady for Republicans.

I bet the voters would have a different message about that outcome.

Speaking of losing, it's interesting to see how quickly the "progressives" turn on each other. Look at Katie Porter in California -- scorned now over the new billionaire leader, Tom Steyer. There was a time when she was going to really show California all about your coalition, but California showed her the door instead.

My voting is with the majority of Democrats in every election, so my coalition is just fine, but thanks for your deep concern.

mr715

(4,620 posts)
102. No, please don't thank me for my concern -- I have none.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 01:48 PM
3 hrs ago

I think Bernie Sanders is fucking awesome.

And yet I still vote how I want to vote, not because someone told me how to vote.

The horse is very high. You may have trouble seeing hypocrisy from up there.

Nixie

(18,219 posts)
103. Thanks for your concern and commitment in trying to put me down.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 01:51 PM
3 hrs ago

You are obviously very bothered that you can't bully me.

My posts are still about Fetterman being a Bernie endorsed candidate.

mr715

(4,620 posts)
107. You really do like to assign the bro label a lot.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 01:56 PM
3 hrs ago

Are you prejudging me based on my anatomy?

Consider instead that you might just be wrong.

BTW - whether I am a "bro" or not is immaterial. We win elections by building coalitions and your deep seated fear and contempt for a portion of the electorate is problematic and reduces our chances of winning.

I'm not bullying - I'm telling you that your sinking ship is going down and you should consider putting on a life preserver. You'll have a lot of egg on your face should Platner be fantastic (as I, admittedly, would if he turns out to be an asshole)

mr715

(4,620 posts)
111. Again, no concern so no need to thank me.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 02:00 PM
3 hrs ago

Your continual need to discuss concern makes me think of Susan Collins.

Nixie

(18,219 posts)
113. And I think of why someone would vote for Susan Collins 3 times.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 02:02 PM
3 hrs ago

Thanks for your deep concern.

Nixie

(18,219 posts)
116. What's clear to me is that I don't need your labels.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 02:11 PM
2 hrs ago

But thanks so much for your concern.

mr715

(4,620 posts)
119. Why'd you need my labels when you're so good at giving them out yourself?
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 02:14 PM
2 hrs ago

Sheesh.

Save the stickers for 3rd grade.

Emile

(43,779 posts)
88. Conor Lamb's centrist platform
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 12:55 PM
4 hrs ago

includes supporting moderate Democratic policies while appealing to conservative voters in his state, such as opposing single-payer healthcare and emphasizing local issues over national party lines. He has also focused on maintaining a balance between traditional Democratic values and the cultural preferences of his constituents.

betsuni

(29,385 posts)
105. Have just read a bit about him, he's focused on constituents, local issues, practical, knowledgable.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 01:52 PM
3 hrs ago

For example, with Medicare for all and single payer, Lamb said the problem is how to pay for it without middle class tax increases (which Bernie Sanders admits would have to happen with his Medicare for All plan) so more people eligible for Medicare by lowering the age is the best option now. (Sanders has also said previously that with Trump in office and Republicans in control of Congress, the ACA with a public option and earlier Medicare eligibility (the Democratic Party plan) would be the best option.)

Nothing alarming. It's politics. Getting things done is the priority. No wonder AOC apologized to him, that was great!

When two candidates vote the same 93% of the time but one is labeled as enemy centrist/establishment/corporate and the other authentic true progressive who is the only Will of the People... Those words are being used to divide Democrats and block progress.

Nixie

(18,219 posts)
137. Thank you, it is an obvious rabbit hole that poster is focused on to smear anyone not a Berniecrat as a
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 03:48 PM
1 hr ago

"centrist" without regard to what actually happened.

I remember all the smears here about Conor Lamb being a "corporatist," so all the revisionist history is what has caught my eye. Conor Lamb's platform is just realism and what's achievable.

BannonsLiver

(20,936 posts)
121. That poster is embarrassed by their former support for Fetterman and is busy retconning him as a centrist in 2022.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 02:19 PM
2 hrs ago

even though on this forum, at the very least, Fetterman was cast as a progressive.

And no, they’re nowhere near as clever as they think they are.

betsuni

(29,385 posts)
76. As if it's physically impossible to be nutty all by yourself, it HAS to be a conspiracy (esp.AIPAC).
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 12:00 PM
5 hrs ago

The ideology demands everything's only about money and everyone's corrupt. Then it's simple, take money out of politics and *poof* the mean old centrists and AIPAC disappear. Utopia.

gulliver

(14,133 posts)
39. Let's see how the primary and midterms go...
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 10:28 AM
6 hrs ago

...before mobbing a sitting Democratic leader. Let the midterm results determine who was right and what direction our party should take in 2028. The democracy will speak.

RedWhiteBlueIsRacist

(2,364 posts)
41. As Fetterman inanely attempts to straddle two parties, I'm reminded of something former AG John Ashcroft once said:
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 10:32 AM
6 hrs ago

"The only good thing in the middle of the road is a dead skunk."

Blasphemer

(3,630 posts)
47. I'm no Platner fan but Fetterman is stooping to ugly levels with this one. Unacceptable. nt
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 10:38 AM
6 hrs ago

Last edited Mon Jun 8, 2026, 12:45 PM - Edit history (1)

LisaL

(47,838 posts)
52. Yep, I understand answering if asked that he doesn't approve, but Fetterman seems to be going out of his way
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 10:42 AM
6 hrs ago

and bashing other democrats in the process.

MineralMan

(151,859 posts)
51. Since Such a Negative Is Impossible to Prove, This Is Just a Publicity Stunt.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 10:42 AM
6 hrs ago

How would someone prove they did NOT send dick picks?

Fetterman seems to be a creepy, creepy guy. Of course, he's a Democrat, so I'm not criticizing his politics here. Still...

walkingman

(11,221 posts)
58. If you want to talk someone, Fetterman, how about the "dickless" Republicans that are afraid of Trump?
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 10:51 AM
6 hrs ago

MustLoveBeagles

(17,860 posts)
64. How can you prove a negative John?
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 10:58 AM
6 hrs ago

Oh that's right, you can't. This is slander against Platner. Funny how I've gone from dislike to sympathy. The way he's being treated is just wrong. Fetterman needs to retire but he won't.

Initech

(109,437 posts)
98. He should just switch parties at this point and get it over with.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 01:40 PM
3 hrs ago

He's firmly in Rupert Murdoch's camp. Hell, he appears on Fox News so much I think he works for them.

Walleye

(45,679 posts)
131. I think he enjoys the power like Manchin did and Sinema
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 03:32 PM
1 hr ago

The swing vote is in a position to demand anything

lapucelle

(21,206 posts)
66. It's pretty weird that the same group of political consultants gave us both Fetterman and Platner. N/T
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 11:04 AM
6 hrs ago

Emile

(43,779 posts)
69. I look for Schumer to do the samething
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 11:14 AM
5 hrs ago

with Platner as he did with Fetterman. After his endorsement he gave Fetterman a million dollars to campaign on. I don't know if he'll give Platner a million dollars, but we'll see.

lapucelle

(21,206 posts)
78. In addition, Senator Sanders is sitting on a $19,000,000+ war chest.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 12:09 PM
4 hrs ago

I’m sure he’ll transfer some of that money to help elect Democrats to the Senate.

In 2022 Schumer transferred $15,000,000 from his war chest to Democratic incumbents and hopefuls, including $1,000,000 to each of the 9 Senate candidates.

Emile

(43,779 posts)
79. Bernie is a good friend of democrats. I
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 12:13 PM
4 hrs ago

look for him to continue to support left-wing progressives.

So stop worrying.

Timewas

(2,797 posts)
67. Anonymous?
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 11:09 AM
5 hrs ago

If so how did fetter even know who was on there, and if he is that familiar with the site maybe there is more to it...

Timewas

(2,797 posts)
82. The burden of proof
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 12:29 PM
4 hrs ago

Is on the accuser

The Burden of Proof: This is why the burden of proof rests on the person making the claim. If you claim a negative (e.g., "Nobody at this company embezzled money&quot , you have to provide evidence, but making someone else prove an unprovable universal negative is considered a logical fallacy.

Rob H.

(5,972 posts)
150. It helps to remember that there are far fewer young progressives left here
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 04:45 PM
21 min ago

than have been here in the past.

Americanme

(580 posts)
86. Zippy the Pinhead thinks he is an honest Democrat?
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 12:42 PM
4 hrs ago

Give me a break. He defends trump way too often to be an honest Democrat.

MineralMan

(151,859 posts)
122. Of course not. He can claim he didn't.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 02:37 PM
2 hrs ago

Proof of a negative like that is pretty much impossible. Unless we could track every minute of his life and document it, we could have not proof that he did not do those things.

Proving a negative statement is virtually impossible. There may be no evidence that he did no such thing, but there is also no evidence the he did not.

Stupid argument.

AloeVera

(4,535 posts)
129. It is, but I wonder if Fetterman thought he was being clever?
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 03:28 PM
1 hr ago

Because Platner can never prove it, he'll never have to wear a suit. Win-win.

Plus casting aspersions and creating doubt to weaken Platner's support is a bonus.

Initech

(109,437 posts)
97. God, Fetterman is the fucking worst.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 01:39 PM
3 hrs ago

Go on a hundred million more Fox interviews, asshole.

Alliepoo

(2,853 posts)
118. Fetterman needs to sit down and shut his
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 02:14 PM
2 hrs ago

Treacherous piehole. He has no room to say anything about any Democrat.

FullySupportDems

(513 posts)
130. In case no one mentioned it, isn't "can prove he never sent..." asking him to prove a negative?
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 03:31 PM
1 hr ago

You can't prove a negative, right? On top of everything else, he's an illogical person. Just a dummy. The suit won't help.

FullySupportDems

(513 posts)
147. It's a shame because he recovered well
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 04:39 PM
27 min ago

When my father recovered he wasn't able to care for himself, walk or have a conversation. It's a pity Fetterman doesn't realize he's one bubble off now.

Bluestocking

(861 posts)
136. Perhaps Federman
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 03:42 PM
1 hr ago

was offended by Platners Tottenkopf tattoo. Only explanation that I can come up with why he would dislike Platner so much.

Perhaps he will be kinder to Platner when he is the Democratic nominee

Celerity

(55,145 posts)
151. Or Fetty may go full Manchin and endorse the POS Collins
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 04:54 PM
12 min ago


Post-stroke Fetterman seems more likely to actually switch parties and become a Rethug than Manchin, tbh. Manchin did leave our Party and became an indie, but like the indie Senators Bernie Sanders and Angus King, he still caucused with the Dems. I can, unfortunately, see Fetty caucusing with the Rethugs at some point, ffs.

11 Bravo

(24,346 posts)
140. Dear Sen. Fetterman, how in the FUCK does one prove they DIDN'T do something?
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 04:19 PM
47 min ago

While I'm awaiting an answer to that question, perhaps you could provide proof that you do not regularly enjoy carnal knowledge of adolescents and small rodents.

AloeVera

(4,535 posts)
144. Thank you so much.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 04:35 PM
31 min ago

I've been wracking my brain trying to find a less crude alternate to the Woodward/Bernstein-coined slang term for political electoral sabotage that we are witnessing again these days. Fetterman bring the latest case in point.

"Carnal knowledge of small rodents" might work. Can I borrow it?

Mossfern

(4,829 posts)
141. Everyon knows
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 04:20 PM
46 min ago

that one cannot prove a negative - it's impossible!
Fetterman should resign - he's ignorant.

note: I haven't read the responses to this OP yet, but I needed to get my first thoughts in first - now back to reading .....

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