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Boxerfan

(2,578 posts)
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 11:50 PM 17 hrs ago

I have a jacket with an Iron Cross / skull on it-and the word Volkswagen and the VW emblem.

I am not a Nazi sympathizer of any sort. Just an older hippie who went to a VW event & bought 2 of these old shop jackets cheap. I wore one out & this is a daily worn jacket.

Do you get my point?. It is / was cool. I do daily drive a 74 VW Bus.

When I was a kid in the 60's the Iron Cross was a common piece of clothing paraphernalia. A pin or patch the iron cross was just a "cool" symbol. It meant nothing symbolically to me or anyone else I knew.

This is the hand to god truth for me.


I hope you can give the same open thought to another errant use of symbolism. Skulls -I barely noticed the presence of it on my jacket patch till I started writing this. Not a fan.

But a lot of people think it's cool. Style not ideology.


my $.02

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I have a jacket with an Iron Cross / skull on it-and the word Volkswagen and the VW emblem. (Original Post) Boxerfan 17 hrs ago OP
I think I just figured out dweller 16 hrs ago #1
I'd say great guess. Boxerfan 15 hrs ago #2
The nazi used a lot of symbols. They weren't all original. I have a car club jacket that has an iron cross Melon 15 hrs ago #3
Once again, I need to point out that there are otther issues, like his niyad 15 hrs ago #4
Excellent Question, Given This Is A Primary And All Are Democrats. ColoringFool 10 hrs ago #8
Is it the specific one used by the nazis? EdmondDantes_ 13 hrs ago #5
Not the same thing Polybius 12 hrs ago #6
1.) The Iron Cross Is Not Inherently Nazi. 2.) 2026 Is Hardly The.... ColoringFool 10 hrs ago #7
The Maltese Cross Emile 10 hrs ago #9

Boxerfan

(2,578 posts)
2. I'd say great guess.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 01:08 AM
15 hrs ago

And Sobriquet is beyond me but I'll go by context.

It actually came from Barbara Boxer after she lambasted Condoleezza Rice for the "Osama Bin Laden " memo's....

I like / understand older cars. The bus kinda fell into my belonging at the same ( different year) car show. I did build the engine as I'm able. It is a good one & stays up with most traffic.

However driving my relative to the airport in heavy rain / wind gusts is white knuckle. It's a lightweight breadbox and mostly gets me around town.

Cheers!

Melon

(1,807 posts)
3. The nazi used a lot of symbols. They weren't all original. I have a car club jacket that has an iron cross
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 01:09 AM
15 hrs ago

Across the back. I would think twice about wearing it. You see it a lot in car culture.

niyad

(134,663 posts)
4. Once again, I need to point out that there are otther issues, like his
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 01:39 AM
15 hrs ago

ugly comments about women, about minorities, etc. All of them are being ignored. Why is that?

EdmondDantes_

(2,212 posts)
5. Is it the specific one used by the nazis?
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 03:28 AM
13 hrs ago

The Iron Cross preceded Germany itself going back to the Prussians and continues to be used to this day. The nazi version had a swastika in it. The iron cross alone isn't problematic. But the specific one given by the nazis would be problematic to wear around.

Likewise there have obviously been many variations of a skull and crossbones, but the one used by the nazis has some specific details that separate it from other skull and crossbones. That's the one Platner had. Someone having the Jolly Rogers skull and crossbones, not a problem.

ColoringFool

(1,260 posts)
7. 1.) The Iron Cross Is Not Inherently Nazi. 2.) 2026 Is Hardly The....
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 06:13 AM
10 hrs ago

Same milieu as the Sixties.

3.) It is not quite cricket to imply that an S.S. symbol is as much a "fashion statement" as the Maltese Cross. One would hardly suggest that wearing a US Army helmet is the same as wearing the distinctive curved Nazi helmet. Or that "Arbeit Macht Frei" are "just German words."

4.) One's own innocent thoughts and no-offense-intended deeds ought not be used as proof of what another has in mind.

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