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Carville on Platner: (Original Post) applegrove 19 hrs ago OP
I'm hoping Carville's right on this one. oasis 19 hrs ago #1
I'm really anxietied up over it. Does not feel good. applegrove 19 hrs ago #2
I believe Carville thinks a strong anti-Trump Dem oasis 18 hrs ago #5
Didn't we think we would get that with Fetterman? LisaL 18 hrs ago #6
How about this? Wiz Imp 15 hrs ago #20
That's the whole point of the organized smear campaign. Bluetus 17 hrs ago #13
Nope. I just don't know if he was aware he had a NAZI tatoo. applegrove 17 hrs ago #14
I don't deny he could turn out like Fetterman Bluetus 6 hrs ago #23
Its been a long time since he has been right about anything krawhitham 16 hrs ago #16
Here is an interesting take on what is going on Ars Longa 18 hrs ago #3
I can think of a few people LisaL 18 hrs ago #7
right?? Skittles 17 hrs ago #10
Morals are out, that's so 2016 (evils, lesser than; voting conscience) and 2024 ("genocide" one issue). betsuni 17 hrs ago #11
You must be a poet MorbidButterflyTat 16 hrs ago #18
I am ... um ... INSPIRED. betsuni 16 hrs ago #19
THIS Cosmocat 6 hrs ago #24
Now that's a ringing endorsement "Politics is not about picking good people." rogue emissary 18 hrs ago #4
yup Skittles 17 hrs ago #9
You don't have to be James Carville to rationalize the situation GoodRaisin 17 hrs ago #8
I don't much care for James Carville. Morbius 17 hrs ago #12
Exactly. When was the last time he was right about something? 1997? FSogol 16 hrs ago #17
I am so sick of AND DONE with Carville.. AZ8theist 15 hrs ago #21
The stakes have always been high Pris 16 hrs ago #15
He is the best chance we have to gain that senate seat questionseverything 6 hrs ago #22

oasis

(54,136 posts)
5. I believe Carville thinks a strong anti-Trump Dem
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 10:15 PM
18 hrs ago

will beat a wishy washy Republican like Collins.

LisaL

(47,838 posts)
6. Didn't we think we would get that with Fetterman?
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 10:30 PM
18 hrs ago

Can you point me to Platner's strong anti-Trump statements?

Wiz Imp

(10,608 posts)
20. How about this?
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 01:17 AM
15 hrs ago
https://www.newscentermaine.com/article/news/politics/elections/candidates/graham-platner-sabattus-maine-town-hall-senate-campaign/97-04091df7-0634-4fea-9282-9ef52e2194ed
Graham Platner vows 'investigation time' for Trump administration if Democrats regain control of US Senate
“We need to shut down the White House for the next two years," Platner said on Wednesday.

SABATTUS, Maine — Maine Democratic U.S. Senate candidate Graham Platner is promising a dramatic increase in oversight of the Trump administration should he help his party flip enough Republican seats for Democrats to regain a majority in the U.S. Senate.

Platner reiterated the goal—made previously at a Democratic Party forum two weeks ago—at his campaign’s 63rd town hall Wednesday night, when about 150 people filled the American Legion Post in the Androscoggin County town of Sabattus.

“If we get the majority, it is Senate committee investigation time," Platner said. "We need to shut down the White House for the next two years. Not only do we have so much crime and corruption to actually investigate, but it’s also a tool. If we haul everybody in the White House under subpoena in front of Senate committees over and over and over again, they won’t have time to be in the White House breaking more things. I also think not one Democratic Senator should vote to confirm a single nominee that come out of the Trump administration moving forward.”

“We got sold out by a political system that does not have our interests at heart—a political system that could not be a better example of than Susan Collins. Susan Collins is the epitome of the self-interested establishment politician who shows up for her donors and always leaves her constituents hanging," Platner said at the town hall. "Things have gotten worse down here in the 30 years that she's been in office. She brings in a little bit of money to the state to justify the fact that a lot more is getting sucked out of us by a system that was built to make sure that we all work harder and longer and for less. It needs to change.”

Bluetus

(3,196 posts)
13. That's the whole point of the organized smear campaign.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 12:00 AM
17 hrs ago

This is most likely coming from AIPAC, Republicans and Corporate Dems. They want you to freak out.

applegrove

(133,407 posts)
14. Nope. I just don't know if he was aware he had a NAZI tatoo.
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 12:03 AM
17 hrs ago

I don't like the charisma attached to a questionable character. I guess we have no choice. Well Maine has no choice if they want the Senate seat.

Bluetus

(3,196 posts)
23. I don't deny he could turn out like Fetterman
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 10:51 AM
6 hrs ago

But I am impressed with the clarity and consistency of what Platner has been saying during the entire campaign. I believe our only hope is candidates who will speak clearly, forcefully and consistently, clearly on the side of working Americans.

EVERY candidate can be smeared. They are smearing Talarico for being a Vegan.

My rationalization is that if Platner turns out to be another Fetterman, we are no worse off than with Collins. OTOH, if he is true to his word, we gain some real backbone in the Senate, and we can build on that.

Regarding the tattoo, I simply don't believe anybody who claims to have known this was a Nazi symbol. That's a very obscure reference and the skull & crossbones imagery has been used millions of times in other contexts that have nothing to do with Nazis. Moreover, that misses the big picture, which is that it is now Israel that is leading the genocides. What Netanyahu has done to destroy sympathies for what the Jewish people suffered under Hitler is unforgivable.

LisaL

(47,838 posts)
7. I can think of a few people
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 10:38 PM
18 hrs ago

deserving of that forgiving attitude who didn't get it.

betsuni

(29,385 posts)
11. Morals are out, that's so 2016 (evils, lesser than; voting conscience) and 2024 ("genocide" one issue).
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 11:47 PM
17 hrs ago

No Democrat was given the benefit of the doubt, corrupt motivations assumed, alarm over all the terrible caving they would do if not constantly and loudly bashed every day.

Math was out then, too. Vote Blue No Matter Who considered a threat telling people what to do, mention of Supreme Court and judges and legislation only possible with majorities was mocked.

Pragmatism was out, that was establishment, status quo, centrist, "donor class" blah blah blah.

Pragmatism not moral righteousness, trust the candidate, math is real. Welcome back, status quo!

Cosmocat

(15,497 posts)
24. THIS
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 11:05 AM
6 hrs ago

Republicans have had this mindset for many decades now - going back to the early 90s.

And, Ds almost always "taken the high road" and N E V E R. Not even once, been given credit for it, and the Rs never are held to account for it.

It is LONG past time for Ds to stop trying to hold itself up to standards that this country no longer has.

Morbius

(1,181 posts)
12. I don't much care for James Carville.
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 11:50 PM
17 hrs ago

Never have. It's completely in character for him to use the noise surrounding Platner to aggrandize himself. We do not need Carville or his advice.

FSogol

(47,681 posts)
17. Exactly. When was the last time he was right about something? 1997?
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 12:44 AM
16 hrs ago

TV sure loves his corn pone act.

AZ8theist

(7,714 posts)
21. I am so sick of AND DONE with Carville..
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 01:43 AM
15 hrs ago

I get dozens of emails a day asking for money.

If Carville, in any way, is in the header, I IMMEDIATELY delete it.

I've even rached out to some of the campaigns I support that have used him and told them as much.
You want my money, get rid of that clown as a spokesman.

I don't know Carville is saying about Platner, AND I DON'T GIVE A SHIT.

But I do know, from everything I've read, that Platner is getting shafted from all directions. And he doesn't deserve it.
He has been, in fact, a staunch anti-Trumper, anti-fascist, pro-democracy veteran.

And he is far, FAR, FAR SUPERIOR to the useless bag of jellyfish intestines called Suzie Collins.
THAT we should all agree on.

And tell Carville to go fuck himself.

Pris

(174 posts)
15. The stakes have always been high
Mon Jun 8, 2026, 12:20 AM
16 hrs ago

Platner is a sexist and it's a terrible thing to do to women and girls.

It needed to end with the Nazi tattoo and the first sexist tweet,

But sexism lives and we've got the faux working class screw up.

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