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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEd Zitron noticed Anthropic apparently experimenting removing Claude Code from $20/mo plan to $100+/mo
Claude Code is very popular, but like all genAI, apparently, it costs the AI company more than they've been charging. There have been a lot of complaints about Anthropic throttling usage.
Today there were at least temporary signs that Anthropic is thinking of making new users, at least, pay $100/mo for its Max 5x plan to have any use of Claude Code, which has been available starting at the $20/mo Pro plan. (There's a more expensive Max plan, too, Max 20x for 20 times the Pro usage for $200/mo, but at least there isn't any indication yet that Anthropic is getting ready to ask all Claude Code users to pay $200/mo.)
Ed's newsletter about this:
https://www.wheresyoured.at/news-anthropic-removes-pro-cc/
highplainsdem
(62,658 posts)displacedvermoter
(4,784 posts)highplainsdem
(62,658 posts)through that money so fast they have to start charging customers much more.
These companies lose money with every new customer. Customers they would not get if they charged people what it costs the company.
Ed Zitron has been pointing out the industry is a scam. He had another newsletter on that today:
https://www.wheresyoured.at/four-horsemen-of-the-aipocalypse/
Put another way, Anthropic doesnt have to play by the rules. Venture capital funding allows it to massively subsidize its services. The endless, breathless support from the media runs cover for the deterioration of its services. A lack of any true regulation of tech, let alone AI, means that it can rugpull its customers with varying rate limits whenever it feels like.
If Anthropic were forced to charge its actual costs and no, I dont believe its API is profitable no matter how many people misread Dario Amodeis interview its growth would quickly fall apart as customers faced the real costs of AI (which Ill get to in a bit). If Anthropic was forced to provide a stable service, it would have to stop accepting new customers or massively increase its inference costs.
Anthropic is a con, and said con is only made possible through endless, specious hype. Everybody who blindly applauded everything this company did is a mark.
hunter
(40,774 posts)My favorite comment:
Uh oh, the addicts are about to get squeezed.
I hear so many people talking about how wonderful coding with AI is but they rarely say what they are actually doing with it. How often is it anything new and not just an ugly rehash of shit people have been doing with computers for decades?
Woohoo! I've created a new variation of Tetris!
No, you haven't created anything. You've made a mashup of all the similar games that were squeezed into the matrices of the imitation intelligence.
Maybe you can make a novel about a vampire who falls in love with a werewolf too.
highplainsdem
(62,658 posts)It's going to be interesting seeing what happens with the AI addicts as the cost ratchets up and access is throttled.
There was a thread on r/ClaudeAI 5 days ago asking other Claude users if they'd pay $2,000 a month for Claude 4.7, the most powerful Claude model currently available to the public (since Mythos isn't)
https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1soontt/would_you_pay_2000_a_month_for_opus_47/
I have no idea if whoever asked that has any connection to Anthropic or knows someone with some connection. But I haven't forgotten that when the idea of possibly charging individual OpenAI and Perplexity AI customers $1,000 a month got attention on social media about a year and a half ago, that idea had been floated by people at the top of those companies.