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MarineCombatEngineer

(18,153 posts)
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 10:33 PM Tuesday

JFC!!!

Lately, I've been asked to serve on juries about bashing Dem. posts, the vast majority of them have been bullshit alerts involving nonsense.
I guess that, according to some here, free speech is verboten.


Hopefully, I don't get a thread hidden, but if I do, oh well.

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JFC!!! (Original Post) MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday OP
K&R canetoad Tuesday #1
You're not alone, and you're not crazy . . . hatrack Tuesday #2
Roger that. Permanut Tuesday #3
Don't feel bad, gab13by13 Tuesday #4
I agree and I have no intention of alerting on this post. MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #6
was a member of a site long ago HAB911 21 hrs ago #14
I'm pretty sure canetoad 3 hrs ago #25
Ive been alerted for posting a RW talking point as part of a discussion, not to promote it BlueWaveNeverEnd 8 hrs ago #18
I thought it was just me... buzzycrumbhunger Tuesday #5
Well said.,, MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #7
I have the most problem with the OPs. Prairie_Seagull 8 hrs ago #19
Agreed. MarineCombatEngineer 6 hrs ago #20
I rarely see really controversial stuff, but I have an ignore and trash list the size of the L.A. phone book! usonian Tuesday #8
So I assume that I haven't been put on your ignore list, which is a good thing. MarineCombatEngineer 6 hrs ago #21
Of course not. usonian 6 hrs ago #22
I Hear You DET Tuesday #9
I almost did the same, but decided HAB911 21 hrs ago #15
I think many alerts may be coming from rw trolls ananda Tuesday #10
THAT is a fact Skittles Yesterday #12
I have NEVER alerted except for obvious trolls Skittles Yesterday #11
Been there, done that RainCaster Yesterday #13
I hear you. yellow dahlia 9 hrs ago #16
Oh, Yes, one must not be insensitive. republianmushroom 8 hrs ago #17
Well I seriously considered leaving angrychair 6 hrs ago #23
I hope you don't, MarineCombatEngineer 6 hrs ago #24
Awhile back I changed my status of willing to no Lifeafter70 2 hrs ago #26

hatrack

(65,000 posts)
2. You're not alone, and you're not crazy . . .
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 10:38 PM
Tuesday

Cheap and easy to disrupt here - just bitch about anything or nothing at all.

gab13by13

(32,511 posts)
4. Don't feel bad,
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 10:59 PM
Tuesday

I made a comment that the markets protect Republican presidents and hurt Democratic presidents.

That was supposedly a right wing talking point.

More needs to be done about people who make ridiculous alerts. Alert me on this.

HAB911

(10,495 posts)
14. was a member of a site long ago
Wed Apr 22, 2026, 07:14 AM
21 hrs ago

that monitored TOS abuse, which was itself a TOS infraction after a set number of alerts. Might be something that would work.

canetoad

(20,854 posts)
25. I'm pretty sure
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 01:36 AM
3 hrs ago

That variables figure into the algorithm for juried posts. When you reach the screen where you vote there are four options, varying in strength of agreement or disagreement with the alert. I believe the options are weighted to factor in the final result but also reflect on the alerter. ie, only so many failing alerts are allowed.

I haven't thought about this for years - I reckon the memory of this comes from the time of the jury system introduction and I recall this being explained - probably in the meta forum.

BlueWaveNeverEnd

(14,589 posts)
18. Ive been alerted for posting a RW talking point as part of a discussion, not to promote it
Wed Apr 22, 2026, 07:52 PM
8 hrs ago


buzzycrumbhunger

(2,029 posts)
5. I thought it was just me...
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 11:00 PM
Tuesday

Lots of those, and I find myself reading them repeatedly to try to find the violation… I find I usually end up having to say, “close, but no cigar” because… aren’t there more important things to quibble about?

I’m assuming “bashing” is different from simply calling someone out for saying or doing something dumb or inconsistent or whatever. If I have to look for 15 minutes to find an offense, I chalk it up to someone having thin skin or just… I dunno… the obnoxious youngest kid in the family kind of mindset?

And seriously, there are some Dems who really are outside what the party should stand for and deserve to be bashed. If there are so many people crying about “two wings of the same bird” and “serving the same masters,” I think the party could stand to be called out now and then. Yes, the tide looks to be turning lately, but some introspection is necessary to avoid falling into the same traps that generate distrust, right? Otherwise, we just keep circling this same cycle of seesawing between outrage at one party, then the other. Dems need a stronger stand to prove they’re an actual alternative to what hasn’t been working, right?

I think there’s a vast difference between "criticizing" and "bashing.” If we can’t criticize, how do we ever grow?

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,153 posts)
7. Well said.,,
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 11:03 PM
Tuesday

Last edited Wed Apr 22, 2026, 10:19 PM - Edit history (1)


I think there’s a vast difference between "criticizing" and "bashing.” If we can’t criticize, how do we ever grow?

Prairie_Seagull

(4,753 posts)
19. I have the most problem with the OPs.
Wed Apr 22, 2026, 08:37 PM
8 hrs ago

If it's say the 15th post I find it easier with the context. Whenever I am in doubt, I give it a close call. IMO they should stand out in SOME WAY.

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,153 posts)
20. Agreed.
Wed Apr 22, 2026, 10:07 PM
6 hrs ago

I don't alert unless it's a very clear violation of the ToS, like a personal attack against another DU member, or if it's an obvious troll spewing RW talking points.
I'm a huge proponent of the 1A and I won't tolerate any attack against our right to free speech and, sadly, I've seen far too much of this crap leaking into DU with these nonsensible alerts.

usonian

(25,962 posts)
8. I rarely see really controversial stuff, but I have an ignore and trash list the size of the L.A. phone book!
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 11:21 PM
Tuesday

One strike you're out with me.

And you should try JFC some time!!



Might be a long drive.

DET

(2,544 posts)
9. I Hear You
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 11:29 PM
Tuesday

I’ve pretty much stopped serving on juries. IMHO most of the complaints were either confusing or petty, and I often couldn’t determine whether they broke the DU rules or not, especially regarding bashing Democrats. It just got to be too much.

HAB911

(10,495 posts)
15. I almost did the same, but decided
Wed Apr 22, 2026, 07:15 AM
21 hrs ago

to fight back by staying in the jury pool and countering the abuse of alerts

Skittles

(172,220 posts)
11. I have NEVER alerted except for obvious trolls
Wed Apr 22, 2026, 01:28 AM
Yesterday

and I absolutely agree with you based on the tame stuff (ALWAYS THE TRUTH) I'VE been dinged for

yellow dahlia

(6,189 posts)
16. I hear you.
Wed Apr 22, 2026, 07:31 PM
9 hrs ago

I sometimes have to reread to see where the "violation" might be.

Like some have said below - agitators and trolls at times?

angrychair

(12,371 posts)
23. Well I seriously considered leaving
Wed Apr 22, 2026, 10:31 PM
6 hrs ago

Kind of still am. I'm so nervous I can spend 30 minutes or more writing and erasing stuff and often I find I just don't post at all anymore. I've been on this website for 20 years and I've never felt like that before.

(FYI I spent 16 minutes typing these two sentence and still have reservations about it getting dinged)

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,153 posts)
24. I hope you don't,
Wed Apr 22, 2026, 10:39 PM
6 hrs ago

while I may disagree with you on occasion, I've always admired your passion for what you believe in and I have never, ever alerted on any thread or post of yours, nor have I ever voted to hide any, so, please keep on keeping on.

Lifeafter70

(1,136 posts)
26. Awhile back I changed my status of willing to no
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 01:48 AM
2 hrs ago

In regards to serving on a jury.
Got really tired for the same reasons in your op.

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