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Magyar: Ukraine is the victim (Original Post) blue-wave Tuesday OP
I wonder if Putin is throwing Borscht against the wall of the Kermlin dining room? Chasstev365 Tuesday #1
New democratic powers on the rise. Ukraine and Hungry. Irish_Dem Tuesday #2
This is great. What an unexpected (for me) dose of hope Easterncedar Tuesday #3
You are absolutely correct blue-wave Tuesday #4
What Trump and his cohorts are doing to America is an eyeopener in other countries dlk Tuesday #5
An Australian I met when travelling abroad credited Trump with the MadameButterfly Tuesday #12
I think this is happening in other countries, like Canada dlk Tuesday #14
Are you serous? MadameButterfly Wednesday #16
I will elaborate for clarity dlk Wednesday #17
Thanks. Agreed. MadameButterfly Wednesday #19
And it is awful what has yet to come MadameButterfly Wednesday #20
Some days it's too much to think about dlk Wednesday #21
We as a people are experiencing abuse MadameButterfly Wednesday #22
Yes, I believe this is true canetoad Wednesday #18
For every action blue-wave Wednesday #30
This nrw leadership is not only good for Hungary, 70sEraVet Tuesday #6
Let's see if orban is prosecuted in Hungary. NoMoreRepugs Tuesday #7
Let's see if his son in law is allowed to live in the US MadameButterfly Tuesday #8
Hopefully Magyar can get around or change the laws blue-wave Wednesday #29
A number of Magyar's statements since his election have given cause for hope. Emrys Tuesday #9
Nice!! blue-wave Tuesday #10
The election of Magyar anamnua Tuesday #15
YES WE DO!! The fucking Nazi Dictators Cha Tuesday #11
Hi Cha!! blue-wave Tuesday #13
Vance says stopping funding for Ukraine is one of his proudest achievements IcyPeas Wednesday #23
I was not aware of this blue-wave Wednesday #27
K&R spanone Wednesday #24
This message was self-deleted by its author spanone Wednesday #25
Can we clone this guy and get him to run for US president? jls4561 Wednesday #26
Now wouldn't that be a breath of fresh air? blue-wave Wednesday #28

Irish_Dem

(81,833 posts)
2. New democratic powers on the rise. Ukraine and Hungry.
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 07:23 AM
Tuesday

The USA falling in prestige and power every day.

Easterncedar

(6,378 posts)
3. This is great. What an unexpected (for me) dose of hope
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 07:42 AM
Tuesday

The ouster of Orban gets a crippling thorn out of the EU’s foot. It is stronger in unity.

dlk

(13,288 posts)
5. What Trump and his cohorts are doing to America is an eyeopener in other countries
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 08:16 AM
Tuesday

Decent people are horrified and I believe this is a contributing factor to the rise of democracy in Hungary.

MadameButterfly

(4,105 posts)
12. An Australian I met when travelling abroad credited Trump with the
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 08:28 PM
Tuesday

resurgence of left leaning parties in Australia. No one wants to follow our lead.

dlk

(13,288 posts)
17. I will elaborate for clarity
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 04:40 PM
Wednesday

All of the terrible things done by Trump and the Republicans have been an eyeopener to the rest of the world. People are horrified. In countries like Hungary (and Canada) this has caused a surge in liberalism and democracy

It’s truly awful that this is what it has taken for people to open their eyes.

MadameButterfly

(4,105 posts)
22. We as a people are experiencing abuse
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 07:44 PM
Wednesday

When I think of the toll Trump has taken on my life over the last 10 years...And I am one of the lucky ones.

canetoad

(20,820 posts)
18. Yes, I believe this is true
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 04:55 PM
Wednesday

And I was almost grateful to the trump admin. for showing us what arseholes they can be when Labor won our last general election. Trump doesn't have many admirers here.

70sEraVet

(5,530 posts)
6. This nrw leadership is not only good for Hungary,
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 08:33 AM
Tuesday

It is good for the Ukraine, and for Europe!

blue-wave

(5,359 posts)
29. Hopefully Magyar can get around or change the laws
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 08:58 PM
Wednesday

to make it so. Orban stacked the court system. There is a lot of work ahead for Magyar.

Emrys

(9,168 posts)
9. A number of Magyar's statements since his election have given cause for hope.
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 10:08 AM
Tuesday

The major one for Hungary is that he declared his majority would alter the constitution to impose a two-term limit on his office. Orban would therefore be automatically barred from standing again, even if he stays out of jail (or worse if Putin's goons get hold of him).

Here are few more highlights:

Formerly, press conferences worked in a way that the propaganda media asked questions that were written for them by the government. We will now give the floor to those Hungarian outlets which are still independent.


In the last 16 years, our independent institutions have been seized. They disrupted the balances. However, we will re-establish this balance and oversight system.

I demand the resignation of the President of the Supreme Court, the Chief Prosecutor, the President of the Media Authority, and the President of the Competition Authority as well.

Sulyok should entrust us with the task of forming the government at the earliest and then step down from his position.


Everyone in Hungary knows that Ukraine is a victim of this war and no one should tell them under what conditions they should enter a peace or sign a peace treaty. We cannot tell any country to give up their territory.

And this is what the Fidesz politicians said. Then I would like to ask them: What would you do if Russia attacked Hungary? Which Hungarian counties would you be willing to give up?

Ukraine should receive security guarantees and territorial guarantees that can be observed and kept. Ukraine, under the Budapest Memorandum, gave up its nuclear arsenal for guarantees, but those guarantees were violated repeatedly by Russia.


I will not actively seek ties with Russia, but if Putin calls me, I will pick up the phone and ask him to end the war.

Hungary is a free, independent European country, part of the EU and NATO, and that is how we will act in the world.

We cannot change geography. Russia will still be there and Hungary will still be here.

So we must diversify our energy supply for security and lower prices. That does not mean cutting ourselves off, it means buying oil and gas as safely and cheaply as possible.


Is Russia a security risk? I think yes.

I'm not talking about the Russian people, the Russian culture, the Russian people, they are fantastic people.

But the Russian bear in Hungarian history, we felt it in 1849, in 1944, 1945, but in the 1920s, in 1956, and then they were here with us for a long time, so we know exactly what this is about.


Meanwhile, Hungarian Foreign Minister Peter Szijjártó, who'd been missing since the election result, popped up at the Foreign Ministry, where he was reported to be barricaded in with his cronies having a shredder party, focusing mainly on evidence of shenanigans around various issues regarding EU sanctions on Russia. Magyar said this wouldn't prevent his being brought to justice.

anamnua

(1,520 posts)
15. The election of Magyar
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 11:59 PM
Tuesday

has been a shaft of light in a generally dismal period in world history.

Cha

(319,548 posts)
11. YES WE DO!! The fucking Nazi Dictators
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 08:12 PM
Tuesday

can LIE their Stupid heads OFF, but it does NOT Change Reality.

Mahalo blue-wave ☮️🌻🕯️🕊️💜🌈🌊

IcyPeas

(25,596 posts)
23. Vance says stopping funding for Ukraine is one of his proudest achievements
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 07:56 PM
Wednesday

Sickening.

This is why Russia is still fighting, why the war continues and why people are dying: Because Trump and Vance encouraged Putin to believe he could win

Anne Applebaum (@anneapplebaum.bsky.social) 2026-04-15T06:57:26.392Z


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