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Wait! Trump is blockading Hormuz bc Iran closed it? (Original Post) yellowcanine Monday OP
Sense? malaise Monday #1
Make sense? How is *making sense* involved? He's just blockading a blockade, that's all. Ocelot II Monday #2
He's blockading the blockade Farmer-Rick Monday #3
LOL! Exactly!! paleotn Monday #8
The strategy, I think... Happy Hoosier Monday #4
See, if Trump blockades Iran's blockade (from outside it's perimeter), then Iran's blockade is actually not a blockade AZJonnie Monday #6
That, unfortunately, sounds like the likely motivation. GopherGal Monday #10
Maybe so. paleotn Monday #14
Trump wouldn't have the gonads to impede ships bound for Russia or China, so the whole thing would be pointless AZJonnie Monday #17
As that Chinese ship has shown. republianmushroom Tuesday #25
Custer's decision underpants Tuesday #29
He's blocking all traffic through the straight that agreed to pay the toll to Iran Volaris Monday #5
trump has a strategy LetMyPeopleVote Monday #7
........ paleotn Monday #16
These are brilliant! BlueSpot Monday #19
This was already open before Trump started the war JI7 Monday #9
I'd love it if Iran tweeted, "Open the Strait, you fucking bastard!" Efilroft Sul Monday #11
More likely they'll say NH Ethylene Tuesday #31
I hear it's really taxing work. Efilroft Sul Tuesday #32
;-{) Repurposed Ballroom Bunker Dirt Goonch Monday #12
I can see a perverse kind of logic to it. subterranean Monday #13
I think he was hoping to punish any ship/country that made a deal with Iran for passage. travelingthrulife Monday #15
Not a real pirate. Real pirates capture a prize now and then. yellowcanine Monday #18
Maybe this isn't a valid analogy, boonecreek Monday #20
He wants that passage money lame54 Monday #21
You could see that dim bulb moment on his face when he Maru Kitteh Tuesday #30
Looks like he's trying for the Uno Reverse play 0rganism Monday #22
George Lucas appears to have predicted this strategy LetMyPeopleVote Tuesday #23
With trump is doesn't have to make sense. republianmushroom Tuesday #24
The story has since evolved BeyondGeography Tuesday #26
Iran was ForgedCrank Tuesday #27
TACO --- again & again & again. Too scared of China (so he still has a bit of sense) Tim S Tuesday #28
Simple. Somewhere, somehow, there's a donor who stands to make millions off this blockade of Iran. unblock Tuesday #33

Ocelot II

(130,842 posts)
2. Make sense? How is *making sense* involved? He's just blockading a blockade, that's all.
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 10:05 AM
Monday

Perfectly normal. Happens all the time.

Farmer-Rick

(12,720 posts)
3. He's blockading the blockade
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 10:07 AM
Monday

Then Iran will block the blockade blocking the blockade and so on and so on......and somewhere pedo Trump extorts another 80 million barrels of oil...like in Venezuela.

I wonder what the citizens of Venezuela could have done with the money from 80 million barrels of oil? Pedo Trump just put it in his pockets.

paleotn

(22,442 posts)
8. LOL! Exactly!!
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 10:25 AM
Monday

Trouble is, Iran isn't Venezuela. They're a vastly tougher nut to crack, bristling with long range weapons. The Iranians aren't given him anything, other than a war he can't win. Oil is over $100 per barrel again this morning, as expected. And airports across the globe are running out of jet fuel.

A classic example of biting off way more than he can chew. An unfavorable, backdoor deal to extricate himself is inevitable. As is a nuclear armed Iran, eventually. The hard part will be making Iran keep the embarrassing, backdoor part secret. But such things can be arranged.

Happy Hoosier

(9,558 posts)
4. The strategy, I think...
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 10:10 AM
Monday

Is that if ships are interdicted, shippers will stop paying the toll and the pressure on Iran increases.

I think that's nonsense. I think US isolation will grow, and Chinese influence will expand. This is a DISASTER for US foreign policy.

AZJonnie

(3,780 posts)
6. See, if Trump blockades Iran's blockade (from outside it's perimeter), then Iran's blockade is actually not a blockade
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 10:20 AM
Monday

Cause there's no ships passing through to where Iran's blockade is. This in turn means IQ47 will rant and call everyone stupid when they say Iran has blockaded the strait. You know, because really it's The Almighty Trump who has blockaded the strait, so stop saying "Iran's Blockade" because it's not!

I'm not kidding, it probably really is this stupid.

GopherGal

(2,926 posts)
10. That, unfortunately, sounds like the likely motivation.
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 10:31 AM
Monday

All I came up with on my own was to try to remember my 3-year-old self and reverse engineer the Tangerine Toddler's so-called "thinking";
"You can't blockade it, *I'll* blockade it first"

paleotn

(22,442 posts)
14. Maybe so.
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 10:49 AM
Monday

But the few adults around Trump are probably thinking this will pressure 3rd parties into pressuring Tehran into making a deal. Iran will demand concessions. Probably lifting some sanctions Those 3rd parties will then pressure the US to make those concessions. Trump will probably accept to get the strait open. And the US ends this in worse shape than we started.

The fly in all this is the enriched uranium. Iran has little incentive to give it up. That will take serious concessions from the US, if that's even possible at this point. It was a non-starter on Saturday. Best we can hope for is a return to status quo with a stronger Iran and a weaker US. Plus, our credibility in the Gulf is shot to hell.

AZJonnie

(3,780 posts)
17. Trump wouldn't have the gonads to impede ships bound for Russia or China, so the whole thing would be pointless
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 11:09 AM
Monday

And possibly, not any ships bound for India either. Everyone involved knows this, including said 3rd party countries.

If what you're suggesting here is indeed the "adults" logic (and you may be totally right on this point), I think most would agree that the problem is most of the "adults" around IQ47 are stupid people to begin with, so they're unlikely to come up with good ideas. Add the fact they're also too terrified to cross Dear Leader or tell him his ideas are moronic and/or illegal, and it's hard to see how their advice is likely to produce meaningful or positive results for US interests.

I don't think the Marmalade Shartcannon is actually going to do try to blockade anyone's ships. Just more mindless bluster from the whining, tedious toddler. Although, if IQ47's real goal is making the USA look like a colossally stupid player on the world stage (which it kinda seems like it must be), I suppose "mission accomplished"

Volaris

(11,742 posts)
5. He's blocking all traffic through the straight that agreed to pay the toll to Iran
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 10:15 AM
Monday

He's fucking pissy he's not getting a cut.

JI7

(93,755 posts)
9. This was already open before Trump started the war
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 10:28 AM
Monday

now the entire war and negotiations are about this one thing.

subterranean

(3,774 posts)
13. I can see a perverse kind of logic to it.
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 10:49 AM
Monday

Iran's chief weapon in this war is the economic disruption it can cause by blocking the normal flow of traffic through the strait. If the U.S. blocks the traffic instead, it still causes economic damage, but takes away Iran's leverage in negotiations. It also cuts off a source of revenue for Iran.

travelingthrulife

(5,355 posts)
15. I think he was hoping to punish any ship/country that made a deal with Iran for passage.
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 10:51 AM
Monday

He's a pirate.

yellowcanine

(36,811 posts)
18. Not a real pirate. Real pirates capture a prize now and then.
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 11:13 AM
Monday

And they don’t chicken out. Trump always chickens out and the prize gets away.

Maru Kitteh

(31,869 posts)
30. You could see that dim bulb moment on his face when he
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 12:36 PM
Tuesday

first heard about Iran charging a ‘toll” and said “yeah maybe I will too.”

He wants that sweet, crude, cash.

0rganism

(25,671 posts)
22. Looks like he's trying for the Uno Reverse play
Mon Apr 13, 2026, 02:48 PM
Monday

I had no idea such clever card-oriented tactics applied directly to actual warfare, truly we live in an age of wonders.

ForgedCrank

(3,115 posts)
27. Iran was
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 12:28 PM
Tuesday

escorting their own stuff in and out to their ports on their side of the gulf. Trump is claiming to be now blockading that traffic, not the whole passageway.
Far as we know, there may not even be any mines. If there are mines, Iran most surely does know where they are or they wouldn't be escorting stuff in and out.
My personal opinion is that he did this mainly in response to the rumor that china was sending air defense systems to Iran, but I'm sure he revels at the thought of also starving the people there at the same time.

unblock

(56,230 posts)
33. Simple. Somewhere, somehow, there's a donor who stands to make millions off this blockade of Iran.
Tue Apr 14, 2026, 02:00 PM
Tuesday

and Donnie is getting a cut.

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