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PeaceWave

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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) PeaceWave Apr 12 OP
. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 12 #1
Oh please n/t leftstreet Apr 12 #2
The editorial we is doing a lot of heavy lifting DemocratSinceBirth Apr 12 #22
So those receipts EdmondDantes_ Apr 12 #3
You think Swalwell would have no idea vanlassie Apr 12 #4
Again, if some unknown person accused me of rape, I'd have no idea EdmondDantes_ Apr 12 #7
This is a timed attack. This has Roger Stone vibes. vanlassie Apr 12 #9
Except that Swalwell's demise helps Democrats and hurts Republicans Jose Garcia Apr 12 #10
Conspiracy nonsense EdmondDantes_ Apr 12 #11
Victims only come out at the oddest times. vanlassie Apr 12 #12
"Victims only come out at the oddest times." Half the reason they do is because of sentiments like this one. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 12 #15
Yes, like Christine Blasey Ford right? EdmondDantes_ Apr 12 #17
It is easier when good guys are just good mr715 Apr 12 #18
if this was a 'timed attack' it's pretty ill timed. mopinko Apr 12 #13
100% mr715 Apr 12 #16
No mr715 Apr 12 #14
Then DemocratSinceBirth Apr 12 #21
Californians decide for themselves duckworth969 Apr 12 #5
I'm a Californian and having the opposite experience Sympthsical Apr 12 #6
I'm a californian too. Lifeafter70 Apr 12 #8
SIGH DemocratSinceBirth Apr 12 #19
Time for openness is now. Kid Berwyn Apr 12 #20
Tough old world when people hold different opnions than ours. Torchlight Apr 12 #23

WhiskeyGrinder

(27,077 posts)
1. .
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 01:31 PM
Apr 12

leftstreet

(41,063 posts)
2. Oh please n/t
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 01:33 PM
Apr 12

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,930 posts)
22. The editorial we is doing a lot of heavy lifting
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 05:28 PM
Apr 12

EdmondDantes_

(1,953 posts)
3. So those receipts
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 01:37 PM
Apr 12

You mean like telling people about it at the time? Or maybe you mean the inappropriate texts? Or that multiple independent women accused him?Or that his staff thinks it checked out?

Or how about the receipt he brought in knowing exactly who to send cease and desists to in the middle of the night? If I was told someone I worked with accused me of assault I wouldn't have any idea who it was. Kind of awkward that he did.

vanlassie

(6,256 posts)
4. You think Swalwell would have no idea
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 01:39 PM
Apr 12

“Who” was fomenting a smear? Seriously?

EdmondDantes_

(1,953 posts)
7. Again, if some unknown person accused me of rape, I'd have no idea
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 02:13 PM
Apr 12

Would you know if an unnamed coworker were to accuse you?

If there was some cadre of employees conspiring against him and he knew, why not fire them before this point? Don't say he's too loyal to do that since he's apologized to his wife, so loyalty doesn't seem to be all that important.

vanlassie

(6,256 posts)
9. This is a timed attack. This has Roger Stone vibes.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 03:34 PM
Apr 12

It’s a textbook chapter in the GOP Book of Dirty Tricks.

I’m not saying you’re naive… but.

Jose Garcia

(3,526 posts)
10. Except that Swalwell's demise helps Democrats and hurts Republicans
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 03:41 PM
Apr 12

EdmondDantes_

(1,953 posts)
11. Conspiracy nonsense
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 03:42 PM
Apr 12

I'm not saying you don't believe victims who have corroboration because you are letting politics blind you, but...

vanlassie

(6,256 posts)
12. Victims only come out at the oddest times.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 04:13 PM
Apr 12

If you think dumping Al Franken the was it was done by DEMS was the way, you do you.

WhiskeyGrinder

(27,077 posts)
15. "Victims only come out at the oddest times." Half the reason they do is because of sentiments like this one.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 04:39 PM
Apr 12

EdmondDantes_

(1,953 posts)
17. Yes, like Christine Blasey Ford right?
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 04:57 PM
Apr 12

Took her years until he was nominated for the Supreme Court. Obviously to avoid being hypocritical she must have been a conspiracy cooked up by some shady Democrat right?

Yes Democrats dumped Franken because 8 different women accused him of inappropriate behavior. Several of them had corroboration from people they told at the time, and at least one was a Democratic staffer.

https://www.twincities.com/2017/12/07/al-franken-sexual-misconduct-allegations-timeline-senator-minnesota/

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42258477

You can't link the other 7 women to a conspiracy run by Roger Stone. But you can claim it was all Roger Stone's fault if you need to do that because you can't believe victims because the accused is a "good" guy with the right political affiliation.

mr715

(3,732 posts)
18. It is easier when good guys are just good
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 05:11 PM
Apr 12

and bad guys are just bad.

Sometimes, sadly, "good guys" aren't really good.

It is important we view our elected representatives as expendable. Or at least transactional. There are a lot of skeletons in a lot of closets amongst the ambitious elite. If I don't know, shame on them. Once I find out and I excuse it? Shame on me.

Roger Stone? Red herring. Misdirect. As relevant as the type of liquor used to date rape somebody.

mopinko

(73,796 posts)
13. if this was a 'timed attack' it's pretty ill timed.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 04:33 PM
Apr 12

the rt time wd b after he won the primary, not while ppl can make a different choice.
i’d say that’s the timing the survivors wanted. while there’s still time to avoid disaster.
that’s y they came forward NOW.

mr715

(3,732 posts)
16. 100%
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 04:46 PM
Apr 12

This is a good thing for the Democratic brand. We do not elect rapists.

mr715

(3,732 posts)
14. No
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 04:37 PM
Apr 12

This helps Democrats. This hurts Swalwell (and his family).

If this were a dirty trick, the simplest agent would be Steyer or Porter.

This is an arrogant man getting taken down by his arrogance.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,930 posts)
21. Then
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 05:22 PM
Apr 12

Last edited Sun Apr 12, 2026, 06:22 PM - Edit history (1)

Then why is Alvin Bragg, the district attorney who secured 34 felony convictions against Trump, investigating him and setting up a tip line for alleged victims to come forward.

duckworth969

(1,390 posts)
5. Californians decide for themselves
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 02:00 PM
Apr 12

No ones call but theirs.

Sympthsical

(11,019 posts)
6. I'm a Californian and having the opposite experience
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 02:06 PM
Apr 12

Everyone I've spoken to in my Bay Area circle of friends is disgusted with the man.

One imagines the anecdotal will succumb to polling in short order.

Lifeafter70

(1,125 posts)
8. I'm a californian too.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 02:42 PM
Apr 12

And there were 3 other supporters for him in my household. But no longer.
We all believe the women.
Time for him to tell the truth and move on.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,930 posts)
19. SIGH
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 05:17 PM
Apr 12

So the vague online rumors about Mr. Swalwell were easier for supporters to dismiss as dirty politics — until the accounts landed with searing detail.

They described a former staff member who said Mr. Swalwell’s assault left her with bruises and vaginal bleeding. Another woman said he had touched her thigh and tried to kiss her during a night of heavy drinking together that ended in a hotel room. Two other women said Mr. Swalwell sent them unsolicited photos of his penis.

When Mr. Swalwell learned what the news outlets planned to publish, he scrambled early Friday morning to call leaders of the groups that had endorsed him, according to two people familiar with the calls. The forthcoming news reports, he told them, were false.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/12/us/california-democrats-eric-swalwell.html


Kid Berwyn

(24,701 posts)
20. Time for openness is now.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 05:18 PM
Apr 12

Accused.
Accuser.
Facts.
Evidence.

And not in, nor necessarily, that order.

Torchlight

(6,922 posts)
23. Tough old world when people hold different opnions than ours.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 07:27 PM
Apr 12

But it rarely means they're convictiing anyone... jsut holding different opnions. It's a tough old world.


Piecewave: Californians don't convict our own in the court of public opinion. We're too smart...
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