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spanone

(141,842 posts)
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 09:54 PM Apr 11

***Looks like the peace talks are over***

I’m shocked since we sent our best negotiators.

Ron Filipkowski (@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social) 2026-04-12T01:47:32.239Z


Vance: But we just could not get to a situation where the Iranians were willing to accept our terms.
We weren't able to make any headway.


AP: US Vice President JD Vance says talks with Iran ended after 21 hours without reaching agreement

ISLAMABAD (AP) — U.S. Vice President JD Vance said negotiations ended early Sunday between the United States and Iran without a peace deal after the Iranians refused to accept American terms to not develop a nuclear weapon.

The high-stakes talks ended after 21 hours, Vance said, with the vice president in constant communication with U.S. President Donald Trump and others in the administration.

“But the simple fact is that we need to see an affirmative commitment that they will not seek a nuclear weapon, and they will not seek the tools that would enable them to quickly achieve a nuclear weapon,” Vance told reporters. “That is the core goal of the president of the United States. And that’s what we’ve tried to achieve through these negotiations.”

The vice president said he spoke with Trump “a half dozen times, a dozen times, over the past 21 hours” and also spoke with Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent and Adm. Brad Cooper, head of the United States Central Command.

https://apnews.com/article/iran-us-israel-trump-lebanon-april-11-2026-2be904aee3f804892336730279e054b9
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***Looks like the peace talks are over*** (Original Post) spanone Apr 11 OP
They opened a big ol' can of worms! True Dough Apr 11 #1
why isn't the great dealmaker drumpf personally handling this???????????? Takket Apr 11 #2
Brain Spurs. Maru Kitteh Apr 11 #6
He is handling it, by phone, that is WHY they can not get a deal. Bev54 Apr 11 #40
Da fuck you talkin'? He's a great deal maker. 3Hotdogs Apr 12 #46
Vance was probably his usual condescending dickish self and treated the Iranians Ocelot II Apr 11 #3
It sounds like our way or the highway....so one meeting, eh? spanone Apr 11 #5
They negotiated for a whole 21 hours. Red Mountain Apr 12 #52
+1 dalton99a Apr 11 #35
That's quite a visual and probably very accurate. chicoescuela Apr 11 #43
PREACH IT OCELOT II Skittles Apr 11 #44
Yep BeneteauBum Apr 12 #48
I think Jared and Witkoff were just there for the cameras underpants Apr 12 #54
Of the 21 hours, I wonder how many were Vance critiquing their outfits. Scrivener7 Apr 12 #55
country is in the middle of a war, and the president is at a UFC event, while the VP announced peace talks have failed Takket Apr 11 #4
Does he go in the dressing room and grab em leftstreet Apr 11 #11
ADVICE FOR YOU TAKKET Skittles Apr 11 #45
Being a diplomat is not a cosplay event. yellow dahlia Apr 11 #7
DOGE saw to it that those experts with the displacedvermoter Apr 11 #8
So much talent, experience, and institutional memory lost. yellow dahlia Apr 11 #14
Nothing efficient about what they did. It was destruction - plain and simple. yellow dahlia Apr 11 #31
" Send in the experts and someone with the skill sets. " AverageOldGuy Apr 11 #20
Yup. So much dismantling and destruction. yellow dahlia Apr 11 #32
Bluster Diplomacy thought crime Apr 11 #9
The US bombed Iran, but the US has "terms?" leftstreet Apr 11 #10
Has anyone asked Trump why the US, as the "winner" newdeal2 Apr 11 #22
The man can't place an order at a donut shop, SamuelTheThird Apr 11 #12
Meanwhile MSNOW is showing Rachel reruns & CNN Bill Maher reruns spanone Apr 11 #13
Is it polite to say: AverageOldGuy Apr 11 #19
looks like more war starting very soon rollin74 Apr 11 #15
Gotta empty the armories so Uncle Sam is forced to buy more from Trump's Donor Class Attilatheblond Apr 11 #33
Possibly, but we were losing aircraft at an unsustainable rate and, hopefully, don't want more of that. /nt artemisia1 Apr 12 #50
Probably should have sent Tim Walz, much more likable guy. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Apr 11 #16
Gosh! Being such a natural diplomat, JD usually seems so lovable and is so good at getting folk on his side! struggle4progress Apr 11 #17
But he wrote a book about stupid people doing stupid things for stupid reasons! What's not to love? Scrivener7 Apr 12 #56
Am I ever shocked and surprised AverageOldGuy Apr 11 #18
Damn does donald have him on zoom? Lifeafter70 Apr 11 #21
I heard trmp say today 'i don't care if we have a deal' spanone Apr 11 #28
He doesn't Lifeafter70 Apr 11 #30
So dweller Apr 11 #23
The couch at the head of the table was probably a bad idea. hay rick Apr 11 #24
The guyliner didnt help,either. BattleRow Apr 11 #27
Given the way he talked to Zelensky I'm not surprised they told him to FRO. BannonsLiver Apr 11 #25
JD Vance is about as undeserving as Jay Leno with regards to prominent positions. Crowman2009 Apr 11 #26
Like we expected anything else from this group. Figarosmom Apr 11 #29
Well that was quick! orangecrush Apr 11 #34
I remember the old time 'shuttle diplomacy' where envoys would fly back & forth spanone Apr 11 #36
When you have no cards - no deal blue blues Apr 11 #37
Jesus Christ spanone Apr 11 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author spanone Apr 11 #39
Wow, after listening to the local news kacekwl Apr 11 #41
Trump surrendered Tuesday, and usually Johonny Apr 11 #42
The guy can't make plausible small talk in a doughnut shop. Aristus Apr 12 #47
I'm sure there were no good faith negotiations...only an ultimatum BeneteauBum Apr 12 #49
So Trump wants the Obama deal that he trashed. C_U_L8R Apr 12 #51
Traitors. spanone Apr 12 #53
Yep malaise Apr 12 #57
Toothpaste back into the tube Ruby the Liberal Apr 12 #58

True Dough

(26,958 posts)
1. They opened a big ol' can of worms!
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 09:57 PM
Apr 11

And now we'll all suffer more consequences. Complete shit show!

Bev54

(13,465 posts)
40. He is handling it, by phone, that is WHY they can not get a deal.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 11:32 PM
Apr 11

He has no idea how to do it. He only knows how to bully not how to negotiate.

3Hotdogs

(15,438 posts)
46. Da fuck you talkin'? He's a great deal maker.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 12:04 AM
Apr 12

He even wrote a book about how to do it.

Why just last week, a message came from Iran headquarters through diplomatic channels. "Sir, we don't want to negotiate with you. We know we will lose out with any attempt to reach a deal. You're too good at it. Please send your son, Fredo to negotiate Or maybe Tommy Tuberville and we will happily begin negotiations. But Sir, you are too good at negotiating,."

"It was like when I negotiated the end of the conflict with Nicar ---or maybe it was Venezuela. Nobody had ever seen anything like it."

Ocelot II

(130,843 posts)
3. Vance was probably his usual condescending dickish self and treated the Iranians
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:04 PM
Apr 11

like he treated Zelenskyy, while Witkoff and Kushner just sat there smiling stupidly with their peckers in their hands.

Red Mountain

(2,365 posts)
52. They negotiated for a whole 21 hours.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 07:10 AM
Apr 12

Worked REALLY hard.

Will probably have spent more time in the air getting there and back than negotiating.

underpants

(196,842 posts)
54. I think Jared and Witkoff were just there for the cameras
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 07:53 AM
Apr 12

The Iranians were very clear that they wouldn’t talk to either of them. This seems to be Trump and J. V. having them there in a “YOU can’t tell ME what to do” kind of way.

Takket

(23,747 posts)
4. country is in the middle of a war, and the president is at a UFC event, while the VP announced peace talks have failed
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:04 PM
Apr 11

every time i think drumpf and the USA have hit rock bottom.......... another day happens

Skittles

(172,172 posts)
45. ADVICE FOR YOU TAKKET
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 11:58 PM
Apr 11

there *IS* no low for repukes; they will always, ALWAYS find a way to go lower.....GUARANTEED

yellow dahlia

(6,171 posts)
7. Being a diplomat is not a cosplay event.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:07 PM
Apr 11

Send in the experts and someone with the skill sets.

But no! They sent in the clowns.

newdeal2

(5,503 posts)
22. Has anyone asked Trump why the US, as the "winner"
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:40 PM
Apr 11

Is negotiating in the first place? I always thought the victor imposes the terms on the loser.

SamuelTheThird

(1,204 posts)
12. The man can't place an order at a donut shop,
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:19 PM
Apr 11

and he's spearheading tis extremely difficult negotiation?

rollin74

(2,327 posts)
15. looks like more war starting very soon
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:23 PM
Apr 11

the U.S. has been reloading with a lot more ammo coming into the region over the past several days

we'll have to see if Trump now makes good on his threat of massive infrastructure attacks

artemisia1

(1,896 posts)
50. Possibly, but we were losing aircraft at an unsustainable rate and, hopefully, don't want more of that. /nt
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 01:39 AM
Apr 12

Scrivener7

(59,804 posts)
56. But he wrote a book about stupid people doing stupid things for stupid reasons! What's not to love?
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 08:00 AM
Apr 12

And then he ...

Well, that's all he did. But Peter Theil likes him!

Lifeafter70

(1,125 posts)
21. Damn does donald have him on zoom?
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:40 PM
Apr 11

"with the vice president in constant communication with U.S. president Donald Trump and others in the administration. "
I just saw him shaking hands with Rogan at the UFC fights in Florida with his new best bro Rubio.

They must have brought the "cone of silence" with them.

spanone

(141,842 posts)
28. I heard trmp say today 'i don't care if we have a deal'
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:57 PM
Apr 11

And MARCO RUBIO SECRETARY OF STATE is at a FUCKING fake boxing match.

Figarosmom

(12,482 posts)
29. Like we expected anything else from this group.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:57 PM
Apr 11

Iran has absolutely no incentive not to build the bomb now. Why would they say yeah, sure, we will just let you destroy us without trying to defend ourselves?

spanone

(141,842 posts)
36. I remember the old time 'shuttle diplomacy' where envoys would fly back & forth
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 11:20 PM
Apr 11

trying to come to means to end conflicts....

spanone

(141,842 posts)
38. Jesus Christ
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 11:32 PM
Apr 11

Here he is tonight. Working hard to end his War in Iran and make life more affordable for Americans like he promised.

Ron Filipkowski (@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social) 2026-04-12T01:37:39.461Z

Response to spanone (Original post)

kacekwl

(9,198 posts)
41. Wow, after listening to the local news
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 11:33 PM
Apr 11

breathlessly talking about High Stakes negotiations like there are serious people involved.

Johonny

(26,358 posts)
42. Trump surrendered Tuesday, and usually
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 11:35 PM
Apr 11

Post surrender you don't get the other side to agree to your former terms. I mean, duh!

Meanwhile Trump will declare victory and the war will or won't continue...

Aristus

(72,317 posts)
47. The guy can't make plausible small talk in a doughnut shop.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 12:32 AM
Apr 12

Why would anyone think he could handle negotiations in an international forum?

Ruby the Liberal

(26,686 posts)
58. Toothpaste back into the tube
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 09:26 AM
Apr 12

Guess what happens when you rip up an agreement, attack a sovereign nation - and lose.

Are we great again?

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