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DemocratSinceBirth

(101,938 posts)
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 01:09 PM Apr 11

Should Eric Swalwell drop out of the California gubernatorial race?


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146 (73%)
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55 (27%)
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Should Eric Swalwell drop out of the California gubernatorial race? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Apr 11 OP
Absolutely not. This stinks of repuke rat fuckery, imo. Phone numbers can be pretty easily spoofed. SheltieLover Apr 11 #1
What do you mean by rat fuckery and spoofed phone numbers? WhiskeyGrinder Apr 11 #4
So the republicans planted operatives on Swallwell's staff for *six* years? Fiendish Thingy Apr 11 #29
It ain't just attacks from our right that we need to worry about nowadays... W_HAMILTON Apr 11 #104
Why would Republicans want to do that? Boo1 Apr 11 #61
He'll still be on the ballot and likely mchill Apr 11 #83
No Boo1 Apr 11 #88
Social Media Algorithms aside mchill Apr 15 #118
I don't want to be part of the knee jerk reactors.... FarPoint Apr 11 #68
Yes, I agree! SheltieLover Apr 11 #85
He had a solid shot at winning the nomination. If the GOP was going to fuck him over, why now? Jedi Guy Apr 11 #90
They knew they couldn't beat him, hence the rat fuckery to remove him SheltieLover Apr 11 #99
I think you might have missed my point. Jedi Guy Apr 11 #108
Wouldn't the Republicans wait until AFTER the primary to drop this? tinrobot Apr 11 #91
This message was self-deleted by its author ZDU Apr 11 #2
Haven't several women come forward making accusations against him? lostincalifornia Apr 11 #5
That doesn't pass the smell test for me ZDU Apr 11 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Apr 11 #12
how about his own campaign staff - upping sticks and departing forthwith .. ? stopdiggin Apr 11 #15
I'll wait for him to admit it.... ZDU Apr 11 #24
That would be an attempt at humor .... Right? ... - - - - - - - - -(nt)- stopdiggin Apr 11 #26
Abusing women is funny, if the man accused is on our "team." Maru Kitteh Apr 11 #97
"I'll wait for him to admit it .. " Ummm .. ? Kay .. ? stopdiggin Apr 11 #100
Pelosi and her staff worked with Swalwell and his staff ... Auggie Apr 11 #23
If that's what Pelosi says, case for continued candidacy closed. Bobstandard Apr 11 #67
I am the pollster. I'm not going to bias my poll in either direction. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 11 #7
Understood ZDU Apr 11 #8
We cannot be the party that speaks out against Trump's harassment claims while turning a blind eye to Swalwell's. LonePirate Apr 11 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Apr 11 #13
That's bullshit. Due process has nothing to do with it and it is not being thrown out the window. LonePirate Apr 11 #18
Due process is still a legal term as you already tried to use EdmondDantes_ Apr 11 #19
There is no due process in politics. mr715 Apr 11 #37
Part of me agrees but...... vapor2 Apr 11 #80
BBut I get them impression that Swalwell has admitted TexasBushwhacker Apr 11 #113
That's what the right depends on PatSeg Apr 11 #22
Absolutely correct! Phone numbers can be easily spoofed. SheltieLover Apr 11 #28
Yep, we've seen this movie so many times PatSeg Apr 11 #52
And their dear leader is an adjudicated rapist, so repukes should stfu imo SheltieLover Apr 11 #54
You keep saying phone numbers can be spoofed Lifeafter70 Apr 11 #114
If doing the right thing is akin to falling into a trap for you, then we have different morals and viewpoints. LonePirate Apr 11 #49
Of course I don't believe doing what's right is immoral PatSeg Apr 11 #51
but you will admit that people that DO possess morals - might have difficulty stopdiggin Apr 11 #103
How about flipping the question EarlG Apr 11 #30
you'd think the guy had a magic wand. mopinko Apr 11 #40
His magic wand is what got him in trouble. mr715 Apr 11 #55
. mopinko Apr 11 #56
I don't know about that magic wand....It seems to have a life of it's own.... LeftInTX Apr 11 #92
Might be a witch stick. mr715 Apr 11 #96
He Seems Like a Smart Guy..Closing In On Cali Guv? WizumbODaSage Apr 11 #109
Echoing this Boo1 Apr 11 #66
+1 Auggie Apr 11 #71
On the one hand, I remember the way the Al Franken ordeal went down True Dough Apr 11 #3
Katie Porter may be expecting to pick up Swalwell's votes in the primary Zorro Apr 11 #9
Unfortunately (because not a big, big fan) the removal of Swalwell leaves behind stopdiggin Apr 11 #10
Really.. DEM Party Is Not An Automatic Punched Ticket.. WizumbODaSage Apr 11 #112
I looked for the latest standings. April 7th may already be out of date. usonian Apr 11 #14
It would probably be disadvantageous for the Democratic Party if he were to do so David__77 Apr 11 #16
Extramarital affairs once tanked candidates leftstreet Apr 11 #17
They'll still tank Democratic candidates 0rganism Apr 11 #69
hell yes...the sooner the better Fresh_Start Apr 11 #20
Swalwell rso Apr 11 #21
It certainly suggests that people who know him well RandomNumbers Apr 11 #32
His own comment in his statement that his wrongdoing is between him and his wife answers it for me. Scrivener7 Apr 11 #84
Under investigation... True Dough Apr 11 #25
And this is how Dems should be holding their ground: True Dough Apr 11 #27
Ms. Luna should clean up her own house first & impeach the adjudicated rapist. SheltieLover Apr 11 #33
They'd need a True Dough Apr 11 #34
Yup. But they have no right to point fingers imo. Smells like rat fuckery. SheltieLover Apr 11 #35
How many times have you used that term in the last day? Just letting you know I'm tired of reading it pattyloutwo Apr 11 #87
You are more than welcome to put me on ignore. SheltieLover Apr 11 #89
Then stop reading her posts MustLoveBeagles Apr 11 #95
No. I think the better option is to call out the objectionable and/or obnoxious. stopdiggin Apr 11 #106
I didn't find Sheltelover's posts either of those things MustLoveBeagles Apr 11 #111
Now you're getting it! And OTHER people have every right to voice disagreement stopdiggin Apr 12 #115
I was just offering suggestions MustLoveBeagles Apr 12 #116
Abbott will simply usher in AK-guy if Tony is kicked out of congress LeftInTX Apr 11 #94
Ultimately Eric Swalwell himself will decide this Quiet Em Apr 11 #31
Do we believe women or not? Maeve Apr 11 #36
That should be a simple question EdmondDantes_ Apr 11 #42
Yes. There are other Democrats. mr715 Apr 11 #38
California election law says it's possible for the November election Retrograde Apr 11 #50
I liked his chances until a few days ago. oasis Apr 11 #39
It depends on the evidence. The woman said there were messages and photos. Let's see them. Vinca Apr 11 #41
Jamie Raskin: Celerity Apr 11 #46
Hearsay. I'm not saying Swalwell didn't do it, I'm just thinking Democrats shouldn't go all Al Franken immediately. Vinca Apr 11 #47
I heard they were dick photos MichMan Apr 11 #63
Do you wanna see Tony Gonzales's dick pics too? LeftInTX Apr 11 #65
imho, the heavy drinking is enough to disqualify him. mopinko Apr 11 #43
If he's innocent as he says he is he should immediately sue the accusers and demand they produce in2herbs Apr 11 #44
I think whatever evidence there is pinkstarburst Apr 11 #45
You make a good point MustLoveBeagles Apr 11 #58
Because 4 victims is a lot to discredit EdmondDantes_ Apr 11 #75
It's likely some of the allegations are true fujiyamasan Apr 11 #48
Politics is a blood sport. It's just not wet. Norrrm Apr 11 #53
I really liked him but he should drop out. WTF is wrong with these people, doc03 Apr 11 #57
Did trumpstein drop out CNYHarris Apr 11 #59
The double standard is staggering IcyPeas Apr 11 #70
Were anyone of us thinking of supporting him? Kaleva Apr 11 #77
Now we want to compare ourselves to the worst??? No, we need to uphold our own standards. Pisces Apr 11 #79
I think Eric should resign immediately CNYHarris Apr 11 #86
Double standard. Noted. The question remains what do DEMOCRATS want to do stopdiggin Apr 11 #107
Sad. Kid Berwyn Apr 11 #60
Whether you're Swalwell or anyone else in politics, it comes down to how honest you are with yourself. Passages Apr 11 #62
It's Strange Though..LOT of People On Earth..A Few Work for You WizumbODaSage Apr 11 #110
Considering that it's a jungle primary, yes. There are other options. LeftInTX Apr 11 #64
Yes, Eric should drop out CNYHarris Apr 11 #72
It's a primary - I think he should probably step aside. TBF Apr 11 #73
Yes, he should drop out. We don't need this damaging distraction from Democratic messaging. We don't need Republicans Doodley Apr 11 #74
So to should Porter. aeromanKC Apr 11 #76
Did Porter sexually abuse or have relations with staff members??? Pisces Apr 11 #82
Allegations on her part as well in this ugliness. aeromanKC Apr 11 #98
Any other democrats you'd like to see drop out? nt TBF Apr 12 #117
He needs to refocus with his family. He made poor choices and will continue to make poor choices if he Pisces Apr 11 #78
I'll let the people of California decide that. patphil Apr 11 #81
The damage has already been done and he needs to drop out. La Coliniere Apr 11 #93
It's over. RandySF Apr 11 #101
California could sure use some Jerry Brown. LuvLoogie Apr 11 #102
Yes. If the allegations of Sex Assault Are True He Must Drop Out & Resign WizumbODaSage Apr 11 #105

Fiendish Thingy

(23,515 posts)
29. So the republicans planted operatives on Swallwell's staff for *six* years?
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 01:47 PM
Apr 11

And instructed them to wait until he ran for governor, and it was too late to remove his name from the ballot, for them to go on the record with reports of sexual misconduct?

The oldest of the allegations dates to 2019, quite a long time for a ratfuckery scheme to unfold for a campaign that was not even dreamt of at the time.

Boo1

(399 posts)
61. Why would Republicans want to do that?
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 05:53 PM
Apr 11

They want Democrats to split the vote and their guys to come out on top of the jungle primary. Swalwell losing support/dropping out really hurts them.

mchill

(1,190 posts)
83. He'll still be on the ballot and likely
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 07:03 PM
Apr 11

Still get votes, but now less and instead of coming in first or second , the majority of Dem votes will likely be spread three ways. No doubt, if this is a Roger Stone job, this has been gamed out. I think it is bad for Dems.

Boo1

(399 posts)
88. No
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 08:13 PM
Apr 11

There were already 3 Dems splitting the vote. Swalwell was running in a dead heath or close with Steyer and Porter. Now his support is going to drop into the also-ran group and both of their shares are going to rise. The odds that atleast one Democrat makes the general election have risen dramatically and the odds of a Republican winning the general have dropped to almost nothing.

The last thing they wanted was one of those three to fall off.

The person who's going to benefit most from this is Katie Porter. She was polling in 3rd among the Democrats with a chance, and this makes it both easier for her to make the general AND gets the pressure off of her to drop out.

mchill

(1,190 posts)
118. Social Media Algorithms aside
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 09:55 AM
Apr 15

I’ve seen a sudden surge of posts suddenly discovering Xavier Becerra’s candidacy. Perhaps he was getting lost and people were concentrating on the top three candidates and if they’re like me, they don’t want Styer or Porter. Of course, I will vote in June so that at least one Democrat is in the final two. I will admit even I had not looked at Becerra before and hoping he might poll better in next two months.

FarPoint

(14,894 posts)
68. I don't want to be part of the knee jerk reactors....
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 06:12 PM
Apr 11

i say wait until evidence comes forward.... I never felt that he was as he is being accused.... I can miss things, I know that....I did that with John Edwards back in the day.... so, I want to wait....

Jedi Guy

(3,489 posts)
90. He had a solid shot at winning the nomination. If the GOP was going to fuck him over, why now?
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 08:27 PM
Apr 11

Why not wait until after he won the primary to spring the trap? Dropping this on him during the primary is causing a stir, sure, but not even close to what it'd cause if they'd done so when he was the nominee.

I get the impulse to want to deny it. It sucks to think that this guy who's fearlessly gone after Trump may not be who we thought he was.

He's said he intends to fight the allegations so we can hope he has evidence that'll conclusively refute them.

Jedi Guy

(3,489 posts)
108. I think you might have missed my point.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:40 PM
Apr 11

It makes more sense to launch the attack if he won the primary. That would do the most damage and throw the Democratic Party into much more of a tangle. Take the shot when it will do maximum damage.

And that's not even addressing the fact that some of the accusers are former staffers, nor the fact that many of his current staff are jumping ship and many who endorsed him are pulling said endorsements. It gives the impression that they believe there's substance to the allegations and that's not something the GOP can just fabricate out of whole cloth.

If these were just fabrications without a shred of substance to them it would make more sense to circle the wagons but that's not what's happening.

tinrobot

(12,092 posts)
91. Wouldn't the Republicans wait until AFTER the primary to drop this?
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 08:30 PM
Apr 11

Their best hope is for Democrats to split the ticket so much that the Republicans get two on the ballot.

This does not further that agenda.

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Response to ZDU (Reply #6)

stopdiggin

(15,558 posts)
15. how about his own campaign staff - upping sticks and departing forthwith .. ?
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 01:29 PM
Apr 11

that fragrance meet the standard ?

and then you might look at post #3 ...

Maru Kitteh

(31,886 posts)
97. Abusing women is funny, if the man accused is on our "team."
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 09:54 PM
Apr 11

Because it’s all a game, it’s just about which team is winning. Super-Mega Bonus Points if that man is white. What’s the matter? Relax. Give us a smile and be a good girl.

Yeah. For survivors, none of this is new.

We see you.


stopdiggin

(15,558 posts)
100. "I'll wait for him to admit it .. " Ummm .. ? Kay .. ?
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:03 PM
Apr 11

I'll reiterate - I'm generally not big on jumping on bandwagons - and that is not my intent here either.

But, have to admit ... Somewhat astonished and a bit taken aback - at some of the discourse I'm seeing ... ?
(this is DU ?)

Auggie

(33,229 posts)
23. Pelosi and her staff worked with Swalwell and his staff ...
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 01:39 PM
Apr 11

and she's calling for him to step down. My guess is that the allegations have been substantiated for her by a congressional staffer she trusts. She wouldn't call for dismissal otherwise.

LonePirate

(14,375 posts)
11. We cannot be the party that speaks out against Trump's harassment claims while turning a blind eye to Swalwell's.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 01:22 PM
Apr 11

It makes us look like partisan hypocrites and it damages our credibility with the majority of people in the party (women). We have to be the better party.

Response to LonePirate (Reply #11)

LonePirate

(14,375 posts)
18. That's bullshit. Due process has nothing to do with it and it is not being thrown out the window.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 01:33 PM
Apr 11

Let Swalwell have his day in court. If he is found innocent, then he can run in 2030. Until then, he should not be running any sort of campaign as these allegations distract from his message/campaign and they tarnish the image of the party as a whole. Frankly, it boils down to whether you believe his accusers (women) or him.

EdmondDantes_

(1,964 posts)
19. Due process is still a legal term as you already tried to use
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 01:34 PM
Apr 11

We aren't throwing him in jail without a trial. If I call my boss an idiot, he doesn't owe me due process and a legal hearing before firing me.

mr715

(3,766 posts)
37. There is no due process in politics.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 02:22 PM
Apr 11

Stop making this absurd claim.

He gets due process when he goes to court.

He isn't owed due process because he is running an election.

Just stop.

TexasBushwhacker

(21,249 posts)
113. BBut I get them impression that Swalwell has admitted
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 11:00 PM
Apr 11

He's vigorously defending himself against charges of rape, but he's also said he's "not a saint"
and owes his wife an apology or ten.

We went through this shit with Bill Clinton and Andrew Cuomo. It's not only about consent. Bosses aren't supposed to pursue their employees. That's sexual harassment and it's WRONG.

I hope he drops out and throws his support to Katie Porter. He's not going to be elected governor. It's over.

PatSeg

(53,270 posts)
22. That's what the right depends on
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 01:38 PM
Apr 11

They know that Democrats will try to do the right thing in comparison with republicans and as such, will end up eating our own. Sadly, we've fallen into that trap numerous times.

PatSeg

(53,270 posts)
52. Yep, we've seen this movie so many times
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 05:05 PM
Apr 11

Meanwhile, their side commits blatant in-your-face offenses on a regular basis and rarely get called on it.

Lifeafter70

(1,136 posts)
114. You keep saying phone numbers can be spoofed
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 11:47 PM
Apr 11

Are you saying that someone impersonated Salwell in sending texts to the women? Did they also impersonate him in the bar, restaurant and hotel room.
Or are you saying all four women are lying.

I get it. He was my choice too but I believe the women.

LonePirate

(14,375 posts)
49. If doing the right thing is akin to falling into a trap for you, then we have different morals and viewpoints.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 04:28 PM
Apr 11

PatSeg

(53,270 posts)
51. Of course I don't believe doing what's right is immoral
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 05:02 PM
Apr 11

Last edited Sun Apr 12, 2026, 10:40 AM - Edit history (1)

I am commenting on the right's ability to try and use it against us. I really don't know what the answer is.

stopdiggin

(15,558 posts)
103. but you will admit that people that DO possess morals - might have difficulty
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:18 PM
Apr 11

pulling the lever for someone sporting apparent red flags and question marks .. ?
How is this going down with Mr. and Mrs. average voter? (and isn't that a point that Pelosi, Raskin and the rest of the party have a right to address?)

EarlG

(23,674 posts)
30. How about flipping the question
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 01:49 PM
Apr 11

What are the reasons for Swalwell — accused by multiple women, losing staff, losing supporters, and now under investigation in New York for sexual assault — to stay IN the race?

Swalwell is currently being tried in the court of public opinion, where evidence is not required (even though there is apparently evidence of his guilt that the public has not seen yet). Democrats — both rank-and-file voters, as well as Democratic Party leaders — are generally not going to treat him like Republicans treat Trump, ie. turning a blind eye and pretending that serious accusations of sexual assault are no big deal.

His political capital is going to collapse, if it hasn’t already. So with half a dozen other Democrats in the race, what are the reasons for him to stay in at this point?

WizumbODaSage

(39 posts)
109. He Seems Like a Smart Guy..Closing In On Cali Guv?
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:49 PM
Apr 11

I have to say though... if he's a political animal and he sees Cuomo, Weiner, Jesse, Jr. guys nearing Governor or President level and he notices these huge flameouts in recent memory and he's on the house J6 committee and every Republican has got the Chinese Spy thing on their lips the second his name comes up... what could possibly allow you to have this kind of thing hanging out there when you're chasing Cali Gov?? I guess he's used to a lot of access but isn't there a "straight 'n narrow" gene that kicks in when you're in the kill zone?

Boo1

(399 posts)
66. Echoing this
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 06:06 PM
Apr 11

GIven his current position and the situation inside of this camp.....how does he even see a path forward in this race?

True Dough

(26,997 posts)
3. On the one hand, I remember the way the Al Franken ordeal went down
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 01:16 PM
Apr 11

On the other hand, I trust this man and feel like he's well-informed enough to provide sound guidance:

Zorro

(18,772 posts)
9. Katie Porter may be expecting to pick up Swalwell's votes in the primary
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 01:22 PM
Apr 11

but I think this will help Tom Steyer more -- and Ro Khanna just came out endorsing him.

stopdiggin

(15,558 posts)
10. Unfortunately (because not a big, big fan) the removal of Swalwell leaves behind
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 01:22 PM
Apr 11

a fairly weak Democratic slate. Nobody else there has any real traction (at least at this point). Could change, but ...

(and I know Katie Porter has fans - but she has also managed to piss off and leave a certain amount of people in the party unimpressed ... So, that doesn't look like the ace card that a lot of people seem to think .. )

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WizumbODaSage

(39 posts)
112. Really.. DEM Party Is Not An Automatic Punched Ticket..
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:59 PM
Apr 11

Party is still weak. Only a "Foolish Consistency" of Hard Work & effective campaigning is carrying recent candidates to encouraging victories.

David__77

(24,840 posts)
16. It would probably be disadvantageous for the Democratic Party if he were to do so
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 01:30 PM
Apr 11

Given that he asserts that this is not what happened, it would seem a bit curious for him to withdraw from the race. The implication is that simply by being accused, even if the candidate believes the accusations are fabrications, it is best for the candidate to withdraw. Note that I am not speaking to the truthfulness of his assertions, just to their implications.

0rganism

(25,676 posts)
69. They'll still tank Democratic candidates
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 06:19 PM
Apr 11

Republican candidates have somehow become so vile they transcend traditional morality, and are no longer subject to criticism for such activities.

But yeah, the new discourse sucks.

Fresh_Start

(11,366 posts)
20. hell yes...the sooner the better
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 01:35 PM
Apr 11

right now we are heading to a general election with only two republicans and no democrats...
there are too many democratic candidates running and he is looking very poor with multiple accusations and his own staff departing

rso

(2,677 posts)
21. Swalwell
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 01:36 PM
Apr 11

The fact that a number of his key staff have quit is a major indicator that there’s something to the allegations.

RandomNumbers

(19,217 posts)
32. It certainly suggests that people who know him well
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 01:52 PM
Apr 11

don't find the allegations preposterous.

Scrivener7

(59,846 posts)
84. His own comment in his statement that his wrongdoing is between him and his wife answers it for me.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 07:19 PM
Apr 11

Whatever it is, there's something there. At the very least a massive breach of judgment.

I liked his work, but we can't be doing this now.

True Dough

(26,997 posts)
25. Under investigation...
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 01:41 PM
Apr 11

MeidasTouch

NEWS: Manhattan DA’s office is now investigating sexual assault allegations against Rep. Eric Swalwell after multiple women, including a former staffer, accused him of misconduct, per CNN. Swalwell denies the claims, calling them false and politically motivated.

True Dough

(26,997 posts)
27. And this is how Dems should be holding their ground:
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 01:44 PM
Apr 11

MeidasTouch

BREAKING: EXPULSION SHOWDOWN IN CONGRESS

Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (R-FL) is moving to force a House vote next week to expel Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) over sexual assault and misconduct allegations, according to new reporting. Swalwell denies the allegations.

In response, Democrats are preparing a counter-move to force a vote to expel Rep. Tony Gonzales (R-TX), who is currently under investigation by the House Ethics Committee over sexual misconduct allegations.

pattyloutwo

(554 posts)
87. How many times have you used that term in the last day? Just letting you know I'm tired of reading it
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 07:55 PM
Apr 11

stopdiggin

(15,558 posts)
106. No. I think the better option is to call out the objectionable and/or obnoxious.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:27 PM
Apr 11

People deserve to know where they stand. And I deserve the right to deliver the message (when lines are crossed).
And the site deserves the effort and effect of a little bleach splashed around every now and then .. ?

MustLoveBeagles

(16,896 posts)
111. I didn't find Sheltelover's posts either of those things
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:56 PM
Apr 11

But YMMV. Sheltie has just as much right to express her views as anyone else.

stopdiggin

(15,558 posts)
115. Now you're getting it! And OTHER people have every right to voice disagreement
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 12:15 AM
Apr 12

and displeasure (as the poster that you responded to had just done) You thought there should be some kind of 'free pass'?
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MustLoveBeagles

(16,896 posts)
116. I was just offering suggestions
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 12:35 AM
Apr 12

They can either take them or not. I'm not trying to silence anyone.

LeftInTX

(34,561 posts)
94. Abbott will simply usher in AK-guy if Tony is kicked out of congress
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 09:11 PM
Apr 11

I would prefer that Katie run in an open seat than against an incumbent AK-Guy YouTuber

Quiet Em

(2,960 posts)
31. Ultimately Eric Swalwell himself will decide this
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 01:49 PM
Apr 11

I'm fairly certain that there will be a lot more in his orbit who tell him he should drop out than those who tell him he shouldn't.

If I had to guess what Eric will decide, I would guess that he will end his bid for Governor of California.

mr715

(3,766 posts)
38. Yes. There are other Democrats.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 02:32 PM
Apr 11

He isn't magic. He isn't owed anything.

I'm sorry that some people here like him, but he is accused of rape.

You know, rape.

Our politicians are not our heroes. They are not our friends. They are not people we should love. They are a vehicle for policy outcomes.

I shall find another Democrat to support because I don't like Democrats accused of rape...


No, this isn't Al Franken, who resigned with grace and elevated his moral standing.

No, there is no due process in politics.

Retrograde

(11,431 posts)
50. California election law says it's possible for the November election
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 04:58 PM
Apr 11

to be between 2 Republicans. California uses what's called a jungle primary: all the candidates for an office appear on the primary ballot and the top two vote-getters go on to the general election in November. Any registered voter can vote in the primary. There are two Republican candidates who are currently polling ahead of the legion of Democratic candidates, making it highly likely that they will take the top two slots, especially if Swalwell loses support. So why can't the lower-polling Democrats drop out? Voting starts in early May and the deadlines for filing have long passed. Why can't the state legislature change this? Isn't this a stupid way to run the most populous state, I hear you say. Yes, it is. But it was passed as a voter initiative (under Schwarzenegger) which means by law it has to be changed by voter initiative. And that's why it smells to me of Republican dirty tricks: if Swalwell is really as horrible as the rumors say, why the delay in trying to sabotage him? Is it just coincidence that he was starting to look like a serious contender for 2nd place, now that the Riverside Co. sheriff (the other Republican with a chance) is busy shooting himself in the foot?

I do not know who is telling the truth, lying, misremembering, or trying to sabotage whom in this instance. Swalwell has been a vocal critic of Trump for a long time: Kash Patel was recently trying to use FBI resources to find dirt on Swalwell, and there were efforts during Trump's first term to link Swalwell with a supposed Chinese spy which went nowhere. The quickness with which the New York Feds have decided to prosecute seems fishy to me. OTOH, Pelosi believes there's something going on. So I don't know. OTOHOH, the GOP smear machine seems to be good at accusing people of what they themselves do.



Vinca

(54,164 posts)
47. Hearsay. I'm not saying Swalwell didn't do it, I'm just thinking Democrats shouldn't go all Al Franken immediately.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 03:28 PM
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MichMan

(17,268 posts)
63. I heard they were dick photos
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 06:00 PM
Apr 11

Really doubt that the women would have saved them. No one would be able to tell if it was him or not anyway.

LeftInTX

(34,561 posts)
65. Do you wanna see Tony Gonzales's dick pics too?
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 06:05 PM
Apr 11

The media obtains and vets them, so we don't have to look at them ourselves.

mopinko

(73,812 posts)
43. imho, the heavy drinking is enough to disqualify him.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 03:04 PM
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ppl taking drugs and drinking heavily shd not hold the public trust. they just shouldnt.
i’d give my rt arm to start drug testing candidates.

in2herbs

(4,463 posts)
44. If he's innocent as he says he is he should immediately sue the accusers and demand they produce
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 03:08 PM
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their evidence -- before the Nov. election.

pinkstarburst

(2,063 posts)
45. I think whatever evidence there is
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 03:08 PM
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needs to be released and quickly. Or at least some of it. If he is guilty of any part of this, he needs to drop out, absolutely.

The reason I am cautious about everyone rushing to burn Swalwell at the stake is because even if he is guilty, look at how FAST people are rushing to condemn him and try to force him out of the race and out of office, without a single piece of evidence being offered, without even 24 hours to investigate.

The governor of California is a huge, powerful position.

Now imagine that republicans (who control a huge share of the media) and billionaire oligarchs (who supported Trump the last time around) see how well this worked to take out Swalwell, whether the charges are legit or not, and decide, hmmm, wouldn't it be interesting if we see who the frontrunner is in the 2028 democratic primary, and take them out right before voting starts?

Then we get a nominee no one is enthusiastic about, and they wait until weeks before the general, and do the same thing again.

And because we've trained ourselves to rush in and say pull the plug, whereas republicans will vote for their candidate no matter what, we get screwed. Again.

EdmondDantes_

(1,964 posts)
75. Because 4 victims is a lot to discredit
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 06:39 PM
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Because they told multiple people at the time. Because his text messages and getting drunk with subordinates are also over the line. Because I and others believe victims.

fujiyamasan

(1,906 posts)
48. It's likely some of the allegations are true
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 03:54 PM
Apr 11

It’s very likely he did send dick pics, and he probably cheated on his wife. All of which make him a terrible husband, and it’s embarrassing and it’s a waste of time. That alone puts him into Anthony Weiner territory. Not a good look by any means. That in itself is reason to end the campaign. It sucks the oxygen out of the room.

I’m skeptical of the timing. This could have been released when he first announced he was running. I’m not sure why it took until now, but if (and I stress if) the more serious allegations are true, I’m glad it happened now rather than after the primary. But I understand that sometimes victims don’t feel comfortable speaking out right away.

Keep in mind this is the first time in over fifteen years republicans have a shot of taking the seat, due to this completely idiotic and clusterfuck of a jungle primary. They’ve already got lucky enough to have so many democrats running (most without a shot) and splitting the vote, so it’s not completely out of hand to initially entertain the possibility of republican dirty tricks. But as time goes on, this looks worse and more possibly true.

doc03

(39,119 posts)
57. I really liked him but he should drop out. WTF is wrong with these people,
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 05:31 PM
Apr 11

they can't keep their dick in their pants.

Pisces

(6,287 posts)
79. Now we want to compare ourselves to the worst??? No, we need to uphold our own standards.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 06:58 PM
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CNYHarris

(149 posts)
86. I think Eric should resign immediately
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 07:47 PM
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Though am surprised how well trained Democrats are. In 2016-2019, I was posting about trump and Epstein and got crickets for an audience.

I was labeled a conspiracy theorist then and chased off forums.

A Democrat and accusations and it is a national emergency, especially in one of the cases involving alcohol, not abuse of children. Why no national emergencies involving young women and alcohol and abuse at colleges. Nothing, way more abuse there and no national emergency.

Believe the victim. Have Eric resign immediately, though when it is a Republican commiting violent sex crimes against women, it is a conspiracy theory, unproven. A Democrat gets accused and there is blood in the water and a national emergency.

trump could rape a person on 5th Ave and the corporate media van would drive by it on the way to cover Eric in California.

stopdiggin

(15,558 posts)
107. Double standard. Noted. The question remains what do DEMOCRATS want to do
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:40 PM
Apr 11

about a prominent candidate with these kinds of clouds swirling .. ?

But, yes ... All fully aware. Double standard. Sucks! Now what .. ?

Kid Berwyn

(24,747 posts)
60. Sad.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 05:50 PM
Apr 11

There has not even been a preliminary hearing and a great many are ready to hang a great U.S. Representative out to dry.

Passages

(4,310 posts)
62. Whether you're Swalwell or anyone else in politics, it comes down to how honest you are with yourself.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 05:57 PM
Apr 11

If he knows he is innocent, being asked to step down is supremely painful right now.


If he is guilty, he should go home and prepare his family for the worst.

TBF

(36,903 posts)
73. It's a primary - I think he should probably step aside.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 06:36 PM
Apr 11

My gut feeling is that there is probably something to the allegations. Not only because four people are now accusing him, but because I do think if it were an elaborate set up, they'd wait until he was the candidate, rather than take him out early in the primaries.

But, I will also note that the president of the US is a convicted rapist. And this is where it gets really annoying because Swalwell has been accused and already everyone is pushing him out (assuming he's guilty); while republicans literally elected a rapist to the presidency without batting an eye.

Doodley

(11,995 posts)
74. Yes, he should drop out. We don't need this damaging distraction from Democratic messaging. We don't need Republicans
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 06:37 PM
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to be talking about this instead of defending themselves.

aeromanKC

(3,929 posts)
98. Allegations on her part as well in this ugliness.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 09:55 PM
Apr 11

For the good of the Democratic party she should step out of the campaign too.

Pisces

(6,287 posts)
78. He needs to refocus with his family. He made poor choices and will continue to make poor choices if he
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 06:58 PM
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doesn’t stop to reevaluate and figure out why he risked so much. He is young and can run again or do something else. It doesn’t have to be him. He put himself in the position for this to happen whether it was consensual or not.

La Coliniere

(1,956 posts)
93. The damage has already been done and he needs to drop out.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 09:06 PM
Apr 11

Honestly, I admired his tenacity in taking on Republicans with an aggressive posture that we certainly need more of in the Democratic Party. However, there was always something about the guy that didn’t sit well with me and I could never put my finger on it. He’s one of the very few Democrats that I’ve ever given a nickname to; my wife and I have referred to him as “Possum Puss” for years because my wife thinks he looks like a possum. I don’t know 100% if the accusations are true, but my gut tells me they are, based on what is already known. If true, it’s shameful how he often trotted out his kids for photo ops. Disappointing for sure.

WizumbODaSage

(39 posts)
105. Yes. If the allegations of Sex Assault Are True He Must Drop Out & Resign
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:26 PM
Apr 11

Weiner, Franken, Cuomo, Spitzer, Clinton. I don't know why. All I know is .. Republicans get away with it because they stolidly villainize anyone who opposed them like made members of a mafia. Democrats stand as crusaders against unfairness & abusers of power. So... 30 years after the law firmly defines sex harassment, unequal treatment, and powerful officials approaching subordinates for romantic entanglements as illegal acts which can result in damages being paid to victims, and your party defines itself by its support for the law in these instances, you must take these charges seriously. You can't just stand by and watch while your candidate rides this out. Not for the Governor of California!!!! His colleagues would be Ron DeSantis & Greg Abbott and he would be target practice for both! I thought Swallwell was a rising star doing admirable work and one of those standing firm against Trump. But with the Chinese Spy story & recent static with Kash Patel he is a target and now a very vulnerable one.

DEMS got wiped out last year....the standing of the party is weak. Our candidates are only human but their integrity MUST be above board no matter how much pressure is coming against them. If they give into temptation and show weak character they can't hold the offices to which we would elect them & fight the fight as forcefully as we need them to.

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