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no_hypocrisy

(55,079 posts)
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 07:09 AM Apr 11

Sending JD Vance to negotiate a peace agreement is an exercise in futility.

He has no experience whatsoever as an ambassador, a diplomat, even as a mediator or arbitrator. Just like Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff.

Not to say that Iran is sending someone with those skills and credentials.

Vance will likely lay out demands and conclude with "Take it or leave it!"

Plus, Vance has a legal background where you're trained as a litigator with Win-Or-Lose. By contrast, a mediator knows the nuances of an argument where both sides give up something in order to reach a resolution with no winners and no losers. And we all know that Trump is not going to accept being anything less than a winner.

My mother was President of the Board of Education in my town. A number of hardball contracts with the teachers. And she advised me that a successful agreement had both sides going home unhappy.

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Sending JD Vance to negotiate a peace agreement is an exercise in futility. (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Apr 11 OP
This asshole has ZERO qualifications to negotiate ANYTHING. spanone Apr 11 #1
Perhaps He was the only unqualified official available Raven123 Apr 11 #2
I like your mother's description of a successful agreement. It strikes me as perspicacious and wise. NNadir Apr 11 #3
Vance.... MarcoZandrini Apr 11 #4
Hey, quit insulting tapioca, which at least tastes good. niyad Apr 11 #6
To put it mildly. paleotn Apr 11 #16
He will judge what everyone is wearing. twodogsbarking Apr 11 #5
And if they seem manly enough! Nt Hope22 Apr 11 #12
He's the fall guy. When the missiles start flying again, it won't be Trump's fault, it will be JD's. Vinca Apr 11 #7
They just misspelled it and meant "piece" agreement. ananda Apr 11 #8
Iran's response... paleotn Apr 11 #17
Wasn't there a GOP lawmaker called Adam Kinzinger? jfz9580m Apr 11 #9
Sending the representation we do signifies contempt for political/international allegorical oracle Apr 11 #10
From his appointments throughout government.... paleotn Apr 11 #19
These people are so far out of their depth. Martin68 Apr 11 #11
It's not supposed to succeed OC375 Apr 11 #13
He would have much more luck if he were sent to a Javaman Apr 11 #14
Vance never even held public office or ran for public office until 2022 Diamond_Dog Apr 11 #15
Who can trust Jared and Witkoff? Kid Berwyn Apr 11 #18
JD Vance: "You know how my wife has a right to do stuff, but she's not allowed to do them?" Prairie Gates Apr 11 #20
They're all so out of their depth it's mind boggling. paleotn Apr 11 #21
I saw Vance on an airport tarmac 2 days ago calling the Iranians stupid right before he was going to ... Botany Apr 11 #22
I am quite sure that whomever Iran has negotiating displacedvermoter Apr 11 #23
As an aside, JD is endorsing GOP candidates in Ohio's campaign ads Raven123 Apr 11 #24

Raven123

(7,858 posts)
2. Perhaps He was the only unqualified official available
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 07:19 AM
Apr 11

The rest of the administration is busy trampling our rights, breaking laws and making polymarket bets

NNadir

(38,259 posts)
3. I like your mother's description of a successful agreement. It strikes me as perspicacious and wise.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 07:43 AM
Apr 11

We could use more of that insight in our party, and indeed in our country.

Vinca

(54,144 posts)
7. He's the fall guy. When the missiles start flying again, it won't be Trump's fault, it will be JD's.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 07:58 AM
Apr 11

ananda

(35,291 posts)
8. They just misspelled it and meant "piece" agreement.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 08:04 AM
Apr 11

Give us your piece of the world, and
everything will be fine..

paleotn

(22,442 posts)
17. Iran's response...
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 09:31 AM
Apr 11

Nice oil and gas infrastructure you've got there. Pity if it went up in flames.

jfz9580m

(17,385 posts)
9. Wasn't there a GOP lawmaker called Adam Kinzinger?
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 08:06 AM
Apr 11
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5067478-kinzinger-closer-to-democrat-now/

Has he quit?
This is the most recent piece I can find is a 100 days old and backing the Maduro capture. And Wikipedia does not mention his leaving the GOP.
Oh nm:
Kinzinger did not seek reelection to Congress in 2022. After leaving office, he joined CNN as a senior political commentator.



Lol..Josh Hawley it is! I do hate TikTok and Google. Common ground!

I do hate it when stuff like TikTok is pushed as somehow mainstream. It is a view of the world that is defined by not being Trump or Stormfepnt.

allegorical oracle

(6,513 posts)
10. Sending the representation we do signifies contempt for political/international
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 08:24 AM
Apr 11

negotiations. This admin blatantly believes that cooperating with other nations is an annoying nuisance that doesn't demand special skills or experience -- it's certainly not as difficult as developing real estate in NYC or building a new WH ballroom.

paleotn

(22,442 posts)
19. From his appointments throughout government....
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 09:40 AM
Apr 11

it's clear Donnie doesn't think ANYTHING demands much talent and experience. Only loyalty to him and kind words in his ear every day. The man and his sidekicks are walking, talking evidence that Dunning and Krueger's most widely known theory is pretty solid.

OC375

(1,071 posts)
13. It's not supposed to succeed
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 09:00 AM
Apr 11

Blame falls on Vance, for whatever comes next. Win-Win for Trump.

Javaman

(65,871 posts)
14. He would have much more luck if he were sent to a
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 09:06 AM
Apr 11

Furniture store.

Just sayin’ 😂😂😂

Diamond_Dog

(40,777 posts)
15. Vance never even held public office or ran for public office until 2022
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 09:17 AM
Apr 11

when he was “installed” US Senator in Ohio by Thiel & co. and proceeded to do nothing in the Senate but warm a seat and wait for Dim Don to elevate him to a position he is extremely unqualified for. He is so far in over his head on the world stage plus he has zero charisma.

Kid Berwyn

(24,701 posts)
18. Who can trust Jared and Witkoff?
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 09:37 AM
Apr 11

Besides Prince Bonesaw, nobody.

That leaves Couchhumper, negotiator by default.

Prairie Gates

(8,304 posts)
20. JD Vance: "You know how my wife has a right to do stuff, but she's not allowed to do them?"
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 09:40 AM
Apr 11

"That's kinda like you, Iran. You're kinda like my wife who's not allowed to do stuff."

Really sharp stuff from the Vice President.

paleotn

(22,442 posts)
21. They're all so out of their depth it's mind boggling.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 09:50 AM
Apr 11

Donnie's instructions are probably to get this thing over with as soon as possible so his approval stops tanking, Nov. doesn't become an even bigger blood bath, and he doesn't share blame for blowing up the entire global economy. But Iran holds most of the cards right now. In short, they're going to get rolled and rolled badly.

It's an extremely tough situation for even the most seasoned diplomats. But these idiots?

Botany

(77,546 posts)
22. I saw Vance on an airport tarmac 2 days ago calling the Iranians stupid right before he was going to ...
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 09:52 AM
Apr 11

….. negotiate with them. What a great seasoned diplomat we have in J.D. Guyliner. Diplomacy
is done by adults, in private, and with the parties showing RESPECT to the other side or sides.

displacedvermoter

(4,752 posts)
23. I am quite sure that whomever Iran has negotiating
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:02 AM
Apr 11

for them will be smarter, better versed in maritime and military law, the petroleum trade, and advanced diplomacy, than Vance and his handlers. And, they will likely be fluent in both English and Farsi.

I don't doubt we will be outclassed at the negotiating table.

Raven123

(7,858 posts)
24. As an aside, JD is endorsing GOP candidates in Ohio's campaign ads
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:20 AM
Apr 11

Not Trump, mind you. Make of it what you will.

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