reportedly he will be receiving free room and board.

His biggest concern now will be, what color are the beans tonight?

Just wait until he sees his prison job wage. Oh and his coworkers are also out a job.

Pay is worse, prices are higher. Good luck.

Mangione is a demented fucking gun humping murderer and this arsonist fucker was risking lives because he was upset. NEITHER IS ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR.

Don't this guys back story, but burning down a warehouse is not a solution for low wages.

I keep hearing the phrase "all you had to do was..." given as an excuse.

Wouldn't vote for Kamala Harris so Trump got elected instead? "All she had to do was..."

Destroy property? "All they had to do was...."

Murder somebody? "All they had to do was..."

It's a pathetic, loser approach to life. It's entitled and divorced from reality.

people of all ages do really stupid and criminal things

they have enough money to buy immunity.

log in three hours later only to review thread to see my response is taken.

"you know the plant cleaned up well"
"that will leave a stain"
"the clean up effort was a bit messy"

NONE ARE BETTER!!! DAMN YOU!!!!!!

I suspect the fires being started at multiple points might have had something to do with it.

is to devote engines (pumpers) to laying in with LDH (Large) hose, and connecting to the sprinklers outdoor connections to massively boost the water supply to the sprinkler system. When well involved on arrival, I would think that the FD would go to an immediate 'Surround and Drown" defensive attack with Aerials, rather than commit any firefighters to an interior attack........

... to put out any substancial fire was way out of kilter - being woefully inadequate or willfully neglect.

Did the winner of the automatic water sprinkler fire suppression system contract place the lowest bid for the job to install ?

Oh, and they inspect the system when it is installed.

... loaded to the rafters with highly flammable consumer paper goods.

unbelievable

Once you get fire & rescue rolling including law enforcement you are putting people’s lives
endanger add that to the fire on or within a structure or structures and its dangers too.

The rich have become too rich (obscenely so) and the poor have become too poor, and too numerous. Enough people in that poor pool and sure enough, you’ll get a good number performing irrational acts.

Thing is, the rich are getting richer, faster than ever, and they’re pulling the rug out from under the poor folks to get as much as they possibly can. I don’t remember seeing it quite this voracious, without any care for the optics before.

so every prole can be monitored, controlled and dealt with appropriately.

See: f-eloon's theft of government data, aggregation of all government data on every 'Murican, 666thiel666's palantir's work etc.

Including the one that is going to go under the new 'ballroom'.

Not just for immigrants--dissenters upcoming. Thom Hartmann has been covering this extensively recently. All part of imposing dictatorship on the U.S.--identify dissidents and punish them.

They can try to hold over half of the population if they want to. It won't work out.

Then, they will have no choice but to run to their richly appointed bunkers and hide while their robot armies lay waste to everything. Then, they canniest come out and restart civilization in their own image.

The irony of that is very funny.

Because they can't build those thinngs themselves and it any company wants to be hailed as heroes, they will have installed the means to backdoor into these bunkers so that these greedy sub humans can be dealt with when the time comes.

Or, we can just hope for the best.

Paper products:

Angelsoft, Brawny, Dixie, Mardi Gras, Quilted Northern, Soft n Gentle, Sparkle, Vanity Fair

© Koch Brothers' Products • Insteading
Source: https://insteading.com/blog/koch-brothers-products/

I feel bad for the workers who are now unemployed but on another level, I'm delighted this has hit the Koch Bro pocketbook.

All the brands listed are under GP.

Mea culpa!

Idiot arsonist should serve the remainder of his life in prison.

while most stadiums look scarcely occupied... it's obscene!

The US hasn't been the same since the Fairness Doctrine was abolished.

So now he has to pay monthly. This is squeezing every nickel out of us.

So take it for what it is I suppose. Not terrible for many parts of the country, but probably not getting you far in California. I don’t know anything about cost of living in that specific area.

Based on data as of early 2026, warehouse workers at the Kimberly-Clark distribution center in Ontario, California, generally earn hourly wages ranging from $19 to $28 per hour.
Glassdoor

Key Wage and Position Details
Warehouse Operator (Ontario, CA): The average hourly pay for operators in the Ontario facility is approximately $22.12.
Warehouse Associate (US): Average hourly pay for associates is reported around $15.11 to $22 depending on the reporting source, with some experiencing higher ranges.
Forklift Operator: Reported rates for forklift operators average around $15.31 to $18.23 per hour.
Material Handler: Reported hourly rates for this position are around $12.98 to $17.
Overall Warehouse Roles: In the Ontario area, the average base salary for general warehouse workers is approximately $19.74 per hour, with opportunities for overtime.
Indeed

Additional Compensation
Bonuses & Profit Sharing: Some employees receive annual bonuses ($4K–$7K) and profit sharing ($4K–$8K).

50k...deductions would leave a person with take home of $3000 per month??? Landlord might not rent to that income. Couple making 50k each would be able to make it.

Seems like that was exactly what Barbara Lee was campaigning on when she was running for US Senate.

Ontario Market Snapshot

Average 1-Bedroom Rent is $2,029/mo

Up 0.7% From Last Year

Apartments for Rent in Ontario CA - 1,014 Rentals | Apartments.com https://share.google/lI8APVlJsjUK8vdIp

Here in Philly most office workers such as myself make between 45-75k per year which is also pretty tight when renting an apartment or buying a little 800 sq ft row home. The “American Dream” sure doesn’t pan out much anymore.

Who ever ran the warehouse was crazy to have that much
very flammable material that close together. I've been in
the Kimberly Clark T.P. manufacturing building where they
make the rolls. I had to go thru a 1 hour orientation with their
internal fire fighters just to go into the facility to bid some
construction work. They took fire safety very very seriously.

... after I was "asked" to take time off from college because I was crazy. Literally.

From there I graduated to moving furniture which paid better. The first time I made $100 in a day was moving furniture. Some of the guys I worked with were crazier than I was. Some had never even considered college.

That's $28.55 an hour today. My rent was $210, which is $830 today.

Gasoline was free. (Not really, but it was nothing I worried about.)

It wasn't union work, and I had no assurances of continuing employment, but my employers were certainly fearful the unions would come to town and figured if they treated us well enough we'd reject unionization.

Things have changed for the worse. I blame Reagan for that and a lot of other bad things.

Sure, I was privileged white guy living in an affluent city.

Everyone should be so privileged.

It paid more than many jobs that required a college degree.

But that was 50 years ago.

Kimberly-Clark warehouse workers in the US earn an average of approximately $23–$26.45 per hour, with rates often falling between $19 and $29 per hour depending on location and experience. Specialized roles like forklift operators or leads can earn over $26-$27 per hour.

Warehouse Pay Breakdown (Approximate):
Average Warehouse Worker: $26.45/hr
Material Handler: $26.50/hr
Forklift Operator: $26.61/hr
Warehouse Lead: $27.86/hr
Packer: $26.04/hr

Key Details:
Location Impact: Rates vary by region, with high-cost areas like California potentially paying more.
Benefits: Positions often include comprehensive benefits, often reported as competitive with the industry.
Data Source: These figures are based on user-submitted data to sites like Indeed and Glassdoor as of early 2026.

Hurting innocent people who also don't get paid well isn't the way to settle a pay dispute. Prices are already skyrocketing because of this administration. This is the last thing people need, when they're struggling to get from paycheck to paycheck.

You have nothing to lose but your chains.

While I do not condone arson, Americans are furious about the costs of healthcare, childcare, forever student loans and getting nickel and dimed to death while people like Michael Hsu, Kimberly Clark's CEO, 'earned' $15.32 million last year, and the basic worker in a warehouse earns less than a living wage. Whole swaths of our labor force earn barely enough to live while these Wall Street financiers, corporate greedheads and billionaire parasites live so high on the hog they think they are above the law.

We feel the immoral nature of these elites, their raw and brutal greed, every time we go to work.

It would be so easy for our species to organize ourselves so everyone's work has meaning and everyone has enough. So easy. But no, we must have greed. We are ruled by few greedy and evil men, men who have risen to the top of the heap in a toxic, brutal corporate culture that encourages and rewards sociopathy.

Instead, billions around the world are wage slaves. 3.5 billion live in poverty, and of those 900 million live in extreme poverty. Every minute on this sacred earth, seventeen human beings DIE of hunger and related causes. Seventeen a minute.

It is time we start standing up forcefully against this shit and get rid of the billionaires, change the rules of corporate governance so workers, consumers and the earth are held equal to shareholder profits. Because right now, shareholder profits are king.

Why does it have to be this way?

Saturday April 11 - we are called upon to participate with the Pope in a prayer vigil for peace.
Friday May 1 - we are called upon to participate in a GENERAL STRIKE. No buying, no work, no school.

Given his level of intelligence, how much did he expect to be paid?
He can educate himself in the prison library.

wrong. A person has that knowledge before entering kindergarten.

nt

K? 3rd grade? 12th grade? Masters?

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but what a dumb way to make it.

Now he and his former coworkers have NO wages and he'll be getting a prison sentence. He didn't think this through.

A more in-depth article lists him as a "disgruntled" employee.

This has been going on for decades. It started with postal shootings.

This wasn't their fault.

You can only fuck with people so long.

not agree to work at the warehouse for an agreed upon wage?

If you don't think the pay is enough, look for a better job.

And there was nothing to be had.

Yes, maybe call Google or Meta who laid off tens of thousands of employees recently.



Honestly, this entire thread would be hilarious if it were not so sad.

No worker protections at all and companies having financial problems refuse to pay their employees for months at a time. They have no recourse. Some are driven to suicide...some people fight back the only way they can.

...is a certain way to get higher pay.
That boy ain't right.

Lucky nobody got killed.

Do not take this as encouragement or excusing behavior. Take a step back, close the browser on checking your own 401K, and realize what kind of situation we are in here. We have an insane president, billionaire tech bros ruling our country from behind the scenes, treating workers like crap and replacing them wherever they can with AI. Think about how this feels to our younger generation in this country. They are trying to do the things - get an education, get a job, buy a house, heck - even buy gas and hamburger - and all of it has gotten a lot worse since we were that age.