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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe U.S. dropped 7.5 million tons of bombs, 400,000 tons of napalm, and had 550,000 troops on the ground in Vietnam
and didn't accomplish a fucking thing.
Never underestimate the concept of self-defense against foreign invaders
GreenWave
(12,606 posts)Our mission was doomed from the start.
dalton99a
(93,928 posts)The Mongols basically gave up trying
China did try again in 1979 (they were pissed off that Vietnam had invaded Cambodia which was a Chinese client and removed the murderous Pol Pot from power)
GreenWave
(12,606 posts)I often used that as an example of how a few decades after WWII many nations did not learn their lessons about genocide and stood idly by while Pol Pot killed a large percentage of his people.
China was pompous and said it would teach Viet Nam a "painful lesson". Thousands died to stop Pol Pot from his killing spree, but IIRC Vietnam pushed China past their common border, making them surrender the ground lost and promise not to invade again.
dalton99a
(93,928 posts)The geopolitical roots of the conflict were complex. Many political commentators argue the 1979 war stemmed largely from Việt Nams military campaign against the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia, whose leader, Pol Pot, was a Chinese ally. [11] Simultaneously, Sino-Soviet relations were deteriorating, while Moscow provided significant support to Hà Nội as its elder brother.
Within hours of the outbreak, the United States called on China to withdraw and urged the Soviet Union to exercise restraint to prevent escalating tensions. [12] China ultimately did not begin its troop withdrawal until March 6, 1979.
Following the withdrawal, a war of words ensued. China stated that it had achieved its objectives, delivering heavy blows in three directions: Đồng ĐăngLạng Sơn, Cao BằngThất Khê, and Lào CaiCam Đường. [13]
Beijing also declared that it had not taken a single inch of Vietnamese territory and would not tolerate further Vietnamese territorial incursions. Conversely, the Vietnam News Agency proclaimed Việt Nam had defeated Beijings expansionist plot, claiming Vietnamese forces killed or wounded nearly 42,000 Chinese troops and destroyed half of their armored vehicles. Western observers noted the likely exaggeration of these figures, given that neither nation has ever released official casualty numbers.
Finally, textbooks rarely mention that the conflict did not truly end in 1979. Although both sides declared the war over, intermittent clashes continued for another decade. It was only in the 1990s, following the historic Chengdu meeting and gradual normalization, that the confrontation between the two communist states officially concluded.
bucolic_frolic
(54,911 posts)and now we have shoes and clothing made in Vietnam. For business it was an investment.
mahatmakanejeeves
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pwb
(12,624 posts)So there's that.