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GALLE, Sri Lanka (AP) An Iranian warship that was sunk by a U.S. submarine near Sri Lanka had participated in naval exercises hosted by India before heading out into international waters in the Indian Ocean on its way home, New Delhi said.
The sinking underscored the scope of the U.S.-Israeli war with Iran and its spread in the Middle East and beyond. It also ignited a debate in India about maritime security in the Indian Ocean a region where New Delhi maintains a significant naval presence.
On Wednesday, Sri Lanka's navy recovered 87 bodies and rescued 32 Iranian sailors from the IRIS Dena, which sank in international waters off the coast of the island nation a rare instance of a submarine torpedoing a ship since World War II.
Sri Lankas navy said it had responded to a distress signal from the IRIS Dena, but by the time it reached the location, there was no sign of the ship, just patches of oil and sailors floating in the water. The rescued mariners were taken to a hospital in the town of Galle, on Sri Lankas southern coast.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/iranian-warship-sunk-us-sailing-111923309.html
EX500rider
(12,411 posts)It wasn't like the US was going to let them get back to join the war
Melon
(1,422 posts)As you said, unless they surrendered the vessel to a port to wait it out, they were doomed as they got closer to Iran.
Blues Heron
(8,663 posts)Melon
(1,422 posts)Victim? 20 other large vessels were already sunk. Im sure they were aware that they are a target.
Blues Heron
(8,663 posts)EX500rider
(12,411 posts)Last edited Thu Mar 5, 2026, 09:28 PM - Edit history (1)
.....this one was smart enough to develop "engine troubles"
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/5/sri-lanka-evacuates-crew-of-second-iranian-vessel-after-us-sunk-iris-dena
Melon
(1,422 posts)Send two of its small navy to a war excercise? Then they stayed an extra 2 days after the conflict started. Weird stuff.
EX500rider
(12,411 posts)Plus they must have known their only real useful weapons were going to be missiles & drones, their navy & air force were just going to be targets
Blues Heron
(8,663 posts)EX500rider
(12,411 posts)The object of combat isn't to make it fair for the other side
Blues Heron
(8,663 posts)EX500rider
(12,411 posts)ymmv
Response to EX500rider (Reply #7)
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ruet
(10,235 posts)
sarisataka
(22,489 posts)hardluck
(776 posts)The Dena participated in Milan 2026, which included live fire exercises:
As per the Indian Navy, the primary goals of MILAN 2026 included "operational interoperability, advanced warfare training." These focused on the "sea phase" (February 2125), which included live-fire drills, anti-submarine warfare, and complex electronic warfare scenarios.
https://japan-forward.com/why-were-indias-milan-2026-naval-exercises-important/]
Here's video of a Russian warship participating in the live fire portion of Milan 2026:
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And the US did not pull out of Milan 2026. The US participated in both the harbor phase as well as the sea phase with a P-8 conducting ASW training. There was a US destroyer, the USS Pinckney, that was set to participate but, ultimately, did not as it was diverted to Singapore.
https://www.navy.mil/Press-Office/News-Stories/display-news/Article/4417628/us-navy-concludes-participation-in-multilateral-exercise-milan-2026/]
Pretty much all of this guy's facts are wrong.
Kingofalldems
(40,164 posts)EX500rider
(12,411 posts)WarGamer
(18,476 posts)I guess they support religo-nazis and killing protestors.
EX500rider
(12,411 posts)The ship was equipped with surface-to-air and anti-ship missiles.
It had an armament of four Ghader anti-ship missiles, a 76 mm Fajr-27 naval gun, a 40 mm Fath-40 AA cannon, a 30 mm Kamand anti-aircraft defense cannon, two 20 mm Oerlikon cannons, two 12.7 mm heavy machine guns, and two triple 324mm anti-submarine torpedo launchers
Doesn't sound very unarmed to me
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRIS_Dena
sarisataka
(22,489 posts)And there are a growing number of accusations that those who correct false information are "supporting" the war.
EX500rider
(12,411 posts)WarGamer
(18,476 posts)Standard US inventory is publicly available... it's 3500-4000 units.
400 were used in the opening days of the war and Tomahawks are only used BEFORE air supremacy is achieved.
The Iranian propaganda is thick right now
BannonsLiver
(20,462 posts)He seems to disagree with you and Whiskey Pete Hegseth that everything is fine. But hey, he's probably getting a check from some mullah!
(On edit: The "I told you so" fun for me in the coming weeks, months, years as this thing drags on and on with the folks who didn't learn a thing from Iraq and other entanglements is going to be off the charts.
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WarGamer
(18,476 posts)I don't know... all I'm saying is all this social media hype about how the Iranians are "devastating" it's neighbors is silly.
AloeVera
(4,156 posts)I'm so shocked!
EX500rider
(12,411 posts)Once it left port and headed back to the warzone is was a danger to the US carrier group in the Arabian Sea.
I don't see how letting it kill a bunch of US sailors and then being sunk is a better outcome, YMMV
The other Iranian vessel stayed in Sri Lanka with "engine problems" and is fine.
EX500rider
(12,411 posts)Smarter move then letting it get with in striking distance of the US carrier group operating in the Arabian Sea.
She had 4 sea-skimming anti-ship cruise missiles with 200 kilo warheads and 300k range.
Blues Heron
(8,663 posts)Do the supporters of this ginned up war want wwiii to break out? Because that is a distinct possibility here. Let that sink in.
EX500rider
(12,411 posts)Very dangerous for a sub to let a frigate know it's there, the Iranian warship carried homing torpedos with a 15k range.
How does WWIII break out?
Zero major powers are going to step in to help Iran.
Actually the longer they try to block the Straights of Hormuz, the more likely other powers will step in to help open the straights.
Key Destinations and Percentages (via Strait of Hormuz):
Asia (Total): ~82%
China: ~37.7% (Also, ~90% of Iran's specific exports)
India: ~14.7%
Other Asia: ~13.9%
South Korea: ~12.0%
Other (Europe/USA): Remaining ~18
India relies on the Middle East for about 60% of its oil imports.
More than 90% of Japan's crude oil imports come from the Middle East.
Blues Heron
(8,663 posts)After the fog of war clears, this will be revealed to be a serious war crime, I have no doubt.
EX500rider
(12,411 posts)Any real news org saying that or just some nobody troll on X?
EX500rider
(12,411 posts)sarisataka
(22,489 posts)Would be required to be unarmed. They may not have been at combat readiness but they would still have their standard weapons load.
Also not even Iran has said the ship was unarmed; I believe they know more about their ships than "sources"
Melon
(1,422 posts)Blues Heron
(8,663 posts)Kill em all and let god sort em out amirite?
EX500rider
(12,411 posts)She has neither lifeboats or room/provisions for 32 prisoners.
The Iranian frigate got off a SOS and had life rafts.
Happy Hoosier
(9,503 posts)Trump starting this war to cover up Epstein is despicable. But out folks are now engaged. This ship was sailing to the conflict zone. With hostilities underway, that ship was a legit target. It should have remained in port.
Blues Heron
(8,663 posts)EX500rider
(12,411 posts)The Admiral commanding the carrier group would be derelict in his/her duty if they allowed a enemy combatant with anti-ship assets to get anywhere near the carrier group.
No doubt the attached attack sub was sent that way to make sure it didn't.
If the Iranian captain had any brains he would have developed some "engine trouble" like the other Iranian warship did, instead he got most of his crew killed for nothing.
lame54
(39,537 posts)A bank robber shoots a guard for daring to pull a gun on him
All's fair
EX500rider
(12,411 posts)lame54
(39,537 posts)Any harm you do is attached to it
This war is illegal
EX500rider
(12,411 posts)lame54
(39,537 posts)Their meeting was happenstance and our carrier didn't fucking hunt it down
EX500rider
(12,411 posts)Last edited Thu Mar 5, 2026, 11:05 PM - Edit history (1)
The carrier most likely detached her attack sub to go stop it getting closer.
The Iranian warship had anti-ship cruise missiles with 300k range, letting it get closer would be stupid.
If the Iranian warship didn't want to take part in the war she could have just stayed where she was.
You know who didn't get sunk?
The other Iranian warship that stayed in Sri Lanka
lame54
(39,537 posts)Hegseth's lawyer
https://www.rawstory.com/pete-hegseth-2675597881/
EX500rider
(12,411 posts)And the ship wasn't unarmed that's BS
And I don't even know why they mention international waters like thats some kind of safe zone for enemy ships, news flash it's not
sarisataka
(22,489 posts)The narrative presents it as if international waters is some kind of safe zone; however attacking the ship in another country's territorial waters would be a violation of sovereignty.
lame54
(39,537 posts)We should not be in this war therefore we should not be in a position to sink sovereign nation ships
EX500rider
(12,411 posts)For it to be a war crime it'd have to be a declared and marked hospital ship or have surrendered and then be sunk etc
Wars started for dubious reasons do not mean all the combat that takes place during that war are war crimes
B.See
(8,243 posts)Torchlight
(6,702 posts)Leavitt was failing in her attempt to turn water into orange juice as she rationalized Operation Forget Epstein.
Easterncedar
(6,065 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(11,968 posts)"In a social media post, former Indian Foreign Secretary Kanwal Sibal said there was no way that the Iranian ship could have been perceived as any kind of military threat."
� 'I am told that as per protocol for this exercise ships cannot carry any ammunition,' he wrote. 'It was defenseless... The attack by the US submarine was premeditated as the US was aware of the Iranian ship�s presence in the exercise to which the US navy was invited but withdrew from participation at the last minute, presumably with this operation in mind.' "
A bit like targeting a girls school?
hardluck
(776 posts)First, Milan 2026 had live fire exercises so there was no was no protocol that ships could not carry ammunition. Second, the US participated in the exercises, both the harbor portion and the at sea portion - P-8's practiced ASW.
See my prior post at #13.
EX500rider
(12,411 posts)https://www.navy.mil/Press-Office/News-Stories/display-news/Article/4417628/us-navy-concludes-participation-in-multilateral-exercise-milan-2026/
And there was literally a live-fire exercise as part of the operation so the vessels weren't "unarmed"
The Indian guy is talking BS
OC375
(702 posts)It literally just came from practicing how to kill enemies, so it could do that better if there's a war. Constant improvement, that's what militaries do all day.
There's now a war and it's an enemy ship headed to a war zone. Further, that ships country shoots at anything that seemingly floats these days, so I have no idea why everyone is adding "international waters" to this, like it's some shocker. That's a lot of bad choices.
It was literally the part in the movie where Eastwood tells everyone who doesn't want to get shot better leave... and reminds everyone that you'd best be armed (permanently) if you do wicked stuff... They headed right in.
Also, we don't tell the enemy stuff like "We're here. Stand and deliver you cur!", anymore. You just shoot them.
I suppose if Iran were to start firing warning drones that deliberately missed oil tankers, military bases and Amazon data centers, we should consider warning shots.
Blues Heron
(8,663 posts)Cant have it both ways bro
OC375
(702 posts)EX500rider
(12,411 posts)Or a act of war?
Cant have it both ways bro
Blues Heron
(8,663 posts)We are the aggressors here, do you understand that?
EX500rider
(12,411 posts)Blues Heron
(8,663 posts)EX500rider
(12,411 posts)One Naval warship attacking another Naval warship during a war is hardly "terror"
It's called combat and if the Iranian ship wanted to avoid it it could have stayed in port like the other Iranian vessel did
Blues Heron
(8,663 posts)We broke into their house and set off bombs, its a crime. They fight back, its self defense. Sinking their ship was yet another crime. Sorry, thats just how most normal people see this, its why theres substantial outrage over this.
EX500rider
(12,411 posts)Blues Heron
(8,663 posts)EX500rider
(12,411 posts)And by normal people you mean a few posters here and maybe code pink?
Less people seem outraged by it in this thread and understand how naval warfare works then otherwise.
ymmv
Considering the alternative was to let it get within missile range of a US carrier and maybe kill a bunch of American sailors and then still get sunk I don't see how this is the worst outcome
Blues Heron
(8,663 posts)EX500rider
(12,411 posts)Basically there were 2 choices and all the "illegal war!" "Burglar!" etc cries are too late once hostilities begin.
At that point the US Admiral in command of the USN carrier group could either:
A. Let a hostile warship in missile range and risk potentially losing ships and many sailors & then sinking the enemy vessel or
B. Sink it while it is still out of range.
There really isn't a choice C., if the Iranian warship didn't want to fight it would have stayed in Sri Lanka like the other one did.
Any Admiral who picked A. would be rightfully court marshaled for dereliction of duty in force protection.
ColoringFool
(562 posts)What about INTERNATIONAL WAR CRIMES do you not get??
Iran was not a belligerent, not a combatant, not a declared war enemy.....
It was, in fact, a sovereign nation as Iraq was when we ILLEGALLY ATTACKED her.
OC375
(702 posts)They dont get to keep their warships heading towards the front where they are actively shooting at ships. We sink them before they sink anyone. Thats how its always worked.
sarisataka
(22,489 posts)And it is all nations ships, even their own.
The tanker Skylight was hit by the Iranians, even though it is under sanction for being part of the shadow fleet which smuggles Iranian oil.
Blues Heron
(8,663 posts)ColoringFool
(562 posts)Attack first. Then accuse the victim state of being in the wrong.
ColoringFool
(562 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(106,036 posts)On the 26th Feb, it had requested permission to enter a Sir Lankan port from the 9th to 13th of March, as had the IRINS Bushehr (a naval auxiliary, so without significant armament) and another ship*. The ships were already very close to the Sri Lankan national maritime zone. The Sri Lankan government thus saw it as an unusual request, and so didn't immediately say yes or no. Then the Dena was sunk early on the 4th, still close to Sri Lanka (19 nautical miles from the port of Galle). The Bushehr docked on the 4th at Trincomalee (not the main commercial port of Colombo, where the Sri Lankans didn't want it).

Link to tweet
*The 3rd ship may have been the Lavan, a "Landing Ship Heavy" also in the Review, which asked India on Feb 28th to dock, saying it had technical issues; India said yes on the 1st, and it docked at Kochi on the 4th.
https://www.deccanherald.com/india/days-before-iris-dena-was-torpedoed-india-gives-safe-harbour-to-iranian-ship-in-kochi-3922522
Again basically unarmed (it has room to land a helicopter on it, but whether it sails with one, I can't tell): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hengam-class_landing_ship
EX500rider
(12,411 posts)Iranian war vessel at sea, potential danger to carrier group is all the sub would have known
muriel_volestrangler
(106,036 posts)so no, I think it's highly likely it knew it was not sailing towards your sacred carrier group, or into the zone of conflict. Plus in this day and age, I also suspect that US intel would have had the info about its movement for the past few days, and Navy top brass would have taken them into account when giving orders to sink it.
If one were demanding "unconditional surrender", one would be saying "it's a potential danger to our carrier group", and saying "sink the bastard, it's Iranian".
EX500rider
(12,411 posts)Since it sounds like the Sri Lanka had not yet given permission for it do dock how do you know what direction it was heading?
muriel_volestrangler
(106,036 posts)If it's war, it's illegal - Congress has not authorised it. "I was only obeying orders" is what the Democrats reminded the military they can't use as an excuse when the orders are illegal.
EX500rider
(12,411 posts)It wasn't going anywhere.
So it was motionless? Anchored?
Doubtful, most likely she was moving in some direction.
muriel_volestrangler
(106,036 posts)without any discussion beforehand.
It requires the president to consult with Congress where hostilities are thought "imminent". Trump clearly did not; he built up forces in the area, did no consultation, and pretended to be interested in negotiation. Then he launched the attack without warning, when nothing had changed (and no, the idea that Israel decided to attack and therefore the USA was forced to attack at the same time doesn't cut it). This is clearly against the Wars Power Resolution. You can't use it as an excuse for an attack 2000 miles away from the fighting.
You want to regard the killing of dozens of people as a form of Grandmother's Footsteps - if a ship twitches, 2000 miles away, then blast away. Are you inspired by Squid Game?
ColoringFool
(562 posts)Uranium," "Mobile Bio-warfare Labs," "Hidden WMDs," and "Saddam Won't Let Overseers In"?
ALL EFFING LIES, EVERY ONE, AND THEIR LIARS: BUSH; RICE; POWELL; WOLFOWITZ.
And yet---AND YET---there are actually those who take THIS unutterably corrupt and criminal Republican Administration's words as somehow being related to the truth and reality, when in fact they are not in the same UNIVERSE.
Well, as was said by a US Major ( not Gen. Westmoreland) back in Vietnam: "We had to destroy the village in order to save it."
Mark it: Cuba is next. Gotta bring back the good old criminal days of Batista. Think of the Trump Resorts and Golf Courses!