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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"Yeah, just keep killing, killing them until they're until they're gone. I mean, absolutely."
Sen. John Fetterman (D-PA) expressed full-throated support for Israel's plan to kill anyone who is appointed by the Iranian regime to lead the nation.
A joint U.S.-Israeli military operation decapitated Iran's leadership structure over the weekend, and Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz warned that "any leader appointed by the Iranian terror regime" would become "an unequivocal target for elimination," and the Pennsylvania Democrat told "CNN News Central" that he wholeheartedly agreed.
"Yeah, just keep killing, killing them until they're until they're gone," Fetterman said. "I mean, absolutely. I saw that, I've read that, that they're going to target who they ever elect to be their next leader and kill them absolutely, I fully support it. So that's what's entirely appropriate now, they have to decide, are we going to continue for, choose now peace, and, or now we're going to try to destroy Israel? They really don't have those capabilities at this point. It's just empty rhetoric because we all know that Iran isn't able to really project the kinds of damage."
https://www.rawstory.com/john-fetterman-israel-iran/
Blues Heron
(8,616 posts)sop
(18,280 posts)Trueblue1968
(19,199 posts)Bmoboy
(633 posts)Stroke, dementia, psychosis ...
Just like Donald.
JBTaurus83
(1,117 posts)As a Dem.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,399 posts)OMG I hate that stupid expression!!
What's his throat full of? One blogger uses a stupid expression then everyone uses it.
UpInArms
(54,710 posts)i think that was first used to describe the howling of wolves or baying of dogs in the hunt
as when they hold their head back and use their "full throat"
(edited to continue to clarify the correct use of the term)
Traildogbob
(12,917 posts)Of fresh mushroom spores from the prophet of their Gawd.
Ilikepurple
(563 posts)I dont even listen or read any bloggers and am fully aware of this metaphor. Ive always thought of birds or frogs using volumes of air to push their calls, but Im no biologist. Keats, frog, or bird, Fetterman does not have my full-throated support on this issue.
JBTaurus83
(1,117 posts)Of Bibis?
Ilsa
(64,210 posts)He dresses like what my son sleeps in. I hope his clothes are clean, at least. I wonder if his hygiene has been kept up?
PatSeg
(53,025 posts)I think it is disrespectful for a sitting senator to dress like that in the capitol. I'm all for comfort, but it seems a large percentage of Americans these days are absolute slobs.
Ilsa
(64,210 posts)seriousness and elevation of the office. The pay and benefits are enough that he should be financially able to dress better. I have never thought a dress code was required, but I think Congress should establish a list of apparel not appropriate for work. I just don't understand why why Fett fights it.
PatSeg
(53,025 posts)Serving in the U.S. Senate is a profound privilege and should be treated as such. You wouldn't think any senator would have to be told what appropriate attire is for such a position.
I remember reading about the first time a young Joe Biden entered the senate chamber. He was in total awe. He took serving as senator as a very solemn responsibility.
Ilsa
(64,210 posts)1989, give or take a year. I was in awe of the House and Senate chambers. I didn't let partisan ideals interfere with my feelings during the tour.
PatSeg
(53,025 posts)goes far beyond partisan politics. So much extraordinary history, it is understandable that you would be in awe.
moniss
(8,954 posts)around here have seen tons of customers coming in dressed in shorts, tank tops and sandals. If you go to funerals and weddings now you see all kinds of people in jeans and t-shirts. It's disgusting. At the dining places along with the shorts and sandals comes the loud obnoxious conversation and laughter. The waitresses also tell me they are "handsy" and cheap on the tip if they tip at all. So if you go for a nice night out on a Saturday evening your chance is pretty high of sharing the fine dining establishment with "bros" in shorts, t-shirts and sandals with beards and backward baseball hats slamming drinks and being loud. To them every place is like a sports bar.
A lot of people today have no sense of manners for others around them. They were poorly parented.
PatSeg
(53,025 posts)Loud, rude, and slovenly. I couldn't believe the first time I saw someone go to church or a wedding dressed in jeans and t-shirts.
Certain situations require dressing up more. It doesn't have to be as restrictive and stilted as the 1950s of course. I accept that we have become more informal and relaxed which in many instances is fine. I don't want to go back to that era of my youth, but a little effort to be well groomed and respectful is not too much to ask.
The backward baseball caps on grown men drive me crazy. If you're not a catcher or a ten year old kid, lose the stupid hat and behave like an adult.
moniss
(8,954 posts)that you show respect by how you come dressed. A funeral parlor visitation is a little different and I will be more relaxed in my feeling about that. But in a funeral setting this is the most serious and solemn moment and I believe people should reflect that in how they dress.
I don't mind if people come to a fine dining establishment in slacks, collared shirt and jacket with dress shoes but I'm not into the jeans, t-shirt, jacket and tennis shoes thing. If they want to sit at the country club bar or restaurant after a round of golf dressed like that then fine. But not at fine dining. Also too many people think of Texas Road House or some other chain steak house as fine dining but they're not. Casual for those places is fine. In fact one would probably be overdressed really if you went to that sort of place in a suit and tie.
I don't go to those places because I can't take the noise and I'm not into the "conveyor" belt approach to food and customers. The places I prefer are the ones where I have actual chefs and cooks rather than "preparers and assemblers". I don't dine out anymore but I used to seek out and go to places where I could ask for a dish prepared a certain way that wasn't "on the menu" per se but I knew the kitchen had everything they needed. I was more than content to wait for however long it took and to pay the price. I tipped very, very well and the staff and ownership/management would come to introduce themselves and we would get to know each other.
I did this even at more casual dining like Sicilian restaurants etc. It was wonderful to have relationships like this with restaurants and I always got a great table, great service and great food. Chefs and cooks would come from the kitchen and sit and converse about how I liked various things prepared and we would chat about recipes etc.
It made "going out" a real occasion for me and the staff at the restaurants knew this would be an enjoyable customer to have and I knew it was mutual.
Some restaurants rebuffed me and didn't want this kind of customer but that's fine too. I'm not just another number and I want restaurants, chefs, cooks and owners/management that are comfortable with customers that are unique and are really into the whole experience. I'm not the 30-40 minute and gone conveyor belt type as so many restaurants desire to "program" themselves" for maximum "turn" of the house.
debm55
(59,336 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
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Wednesdays
(22,333 posts)Ilsa
(64,210 posts)something besides impeachment for removal on medical grounds.
Borogove
(610 posts)We want our money back.
Whip-poor-will
(72 posts)and donating like me ?
Ferrets are Cool
(22,762 posts)Coventina
(29,593 posts)Maru Kitteh
(31,560 posts)What a failure of critical thinking he has become. Too bad hes not avoiding cameras anymore.
dalton99a
(93,517 posts)And why should Americans have to pay for his wanton obliteration of Gaza?
Irish_Dem
(80,776 posts)This is not leadership.
Autumn
(48,914 posts)Amaryllis
(11,208 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(15,746 posts)Something is wrong with him. I no longer think it's just the stroke. My husband has had two minor ones and he's changed but not to this degree.
Irish_Dem
(80,776 posts)Autumn
(48,914 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(15,746 posts)lame54
(39,506 posts)pat_k
(13,074 posts)With the limited reading I've done, it seems pretty clear that the IRGC and supporting volunteer Basij army constitute a massive force that is deeply embedded in every part of the economy and civil society. It also seems pretty clear that the IRGC wields vast oppressive power that is effectively independent of the regime leadership.
The revolutionary guard corp is estimated to be 100,000 to 200,00O people strong, with power centers throughout the economy.
And regarding the Basij, there are more indepth sources, but wikipedia provides a decent summary:
From Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basij
Subgroupings of the Basij include the
Primary Schools Basij Cadets [Basij-e Danesh-Amouzi], (also reportedly called Omidan or Hopes),[55]
Middle schools basij, Pouyandegan or Seekers,[55]
High school Basij, Pishgaman or Standard Bearers,[55]
the Students Basij Cadets [Basij-e Daneshjouyi],
the University Basij Cadets,
the Public Service Basij (Basij-e Edarii), and
the Tribal Basij.[33]
Estimates of the number of Basij vary, with its leadership giving higher figures than outside commentators. Official estimates are as high as 23.8 million.[57] A scholar of the Basij, Saeid Golkar, estimates their total membership at approximately one million, and their security forces in the tens of thousands.[19] As of 2020 there were reportedly between 40,000[19] and 54,000 Basij bases (Paygha-e Basij) around Iran.[58]
Economic power
According to the US Treasury, the Basij have a multi-billion-dollar "covert network" of businesses.[19] According to Saeid Golkar, the influence of the Basij in the Iranian economy, has grown to extend to "every sector", from "construction and real estate to the stock market".[54] In 1996, six organizations were put under the control of the Basij Cooperative Foundation (BCF)
The Basijis Housing Institution (Moassesseh-ye Tamin-e Maskan-e Basijian).
The Basijis Medical Institution (Moassesseh-ye Tamin-e darman-e Basijian).
The Basijis No-Interest Loan Institute (Moassesseh-ye Gharz al-Hassaneh-ye Basijian).
The Basijis Consumer-Goods Provision Institution (Moassesseh-ye Tamin-e Aghlam-e Masrafi-ye Basijian).
The Cultural Artistic Institute of the Warriors of Islam (Moassesseh-ye Farhangi Honari-ye Razmandegan-e Eslam).
The Scientific and Pedagogic Services Institute of the Fighters (Moassesseh-ye Khadamat-e Elmi va Amouzeshi-ye Razmandegan).[59][54]
As the government privatized companies under president Hashemi Rafsanjani, The Basij Cooperative Foundation became the Basij's main mechanism for "purchasing entire industries on the cheap"
There is also the Quds Force
From Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quds_Force
Fetterman's (and others) "we'll just keep killing them til they are gone" is beyond stupid.
Killing ayatollahs doesn't touch the vast infrastructure. The IRGC / Basij is like a cancer that has metastasized to every organ of the body. I fear that the idiots in charge will be perfectly happy to kill the host and destroy the lives of every Iranian in their pursuit of "victory." And clearly, MBC and Netanyahu would be thrilled with such a result.
Ponietz
(4,250 posts)chowder66
(12,124 posts)City Lights
(25,629 posts)Tribetime
(7,133 posts)It was Sinema before now.It's him so we need to have a majority plus one or two
AllyCat
(18,731 posts)Whyisthisstillclose
(622 posts)BlueTsunami2018
(4,939 posts)What difference is there between what hes saying and what Whisky Pete is saying?
These are the words youd hear from lunatics and sickos.
Kill! Kill! Kill!!!
What the fuck are we doing?
MustLoveBeagles
(15,746 posts)It revealed what was previously kept hidden.
BlueTsunami2018
(4,939 posts)Thats not something that happens very often.
Im embarrassed.
MustLoveBeagles
(15,746 posts)He fooled a lot of people including me. The current Whitehouse occupant fooled me at one time as well.
ColoringFool
(554 posts)The United States and citizens thereof will bitterly rue the day.
BITTERLY. In, as they say, blood and treasure.
Those whom Trump would destroy, he first makes poor.
NNadir
(37,813 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(15,746 posts)It's gone beyond that for me. I think he's a psychopath or at the very least a sociopath. I think it would be best if he got out of politics.
Talitha
(7,886 posts)Blue Owl
(58,854 posts)Look at yourself, man...
TexasBushwhacker
(21,179 posts)flashman13
(2,294 posts)Miles Archer
(22,644 posts)Trump's going to go out there and pound his flabby chest, "OH...you THINK I hit you hard? Well, I'm going to hit you harder than ANYONE IN THE HISTORY of being hit hard was hit hard, SO HARD that..."
And, Iran's gonna play their cards a little closer to the vest.
flashman13
(2,294 posts)Underestimation cost the Japanese the Battle of Midway.
Hubris is very dangerous.
David__77
(24,559 posts)Arazi
(8,850 posts)Kid Berwyn
(24,018 posts)La Coliniere
(1,875 posts)I feel sorry for those in PA who were duped by this fool.