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Hell, even Erik Prince knows this is fucked up. (Original Post) Tanuki 18 hrs ago OP
OMG ALL THESE FUCKING MAGAT ASSHOLES CAN GO FUCK THEMSELVES Skittles 18 hrs ago #1
Did you watch the clip? NJCher 18 hrs ago #2
It's not an invasion Layzeebeaver 17 hrs ago #3
Seriously? How is that different to all the dead children at that school? niyad 16 hrs ago #7
Did I minimise the death of children? Layzeebeaver 15 hrs ago #11
What, to your mind, is the difference? Not snark, I seriously want to know niyad 15 hrs ago #13
I have no problem with accurate language. Layzeebeaver 15 hrs ago #17
And yet, with all those words, you did not answer the question, nor tell niyad 13 hrs ago #20
Dictionaries? Layzeebeaver 13 hrs ago #21
Invasion is boots on the ground. Air strikes are to aid haele 12 hrs ago #23
"boots on the ground" is not in any dictionary I have seen. niyad 11 hrs ago #24
here: Celerity 11 hrs ago #25
Yes, but I was referring to the definition of "invasion". niyad 11 hrs ago #28
I was only replying to your exact words in post 24 Celerity 11 hrs ago #29
I know! niyad 11 hrs ago #30
all good, niyad Celerity 11 hrs ago #31
ALWAYS!!! niyad 10 hrs ago #33
The bombs are invading Iran's territory. wnylib 16 hrs ago #8
Seriously? Layzeebeaver 15 hrs ago #12
Three types of invasion, by land, sea, or air. Depends on which dictionary niyad 15 hrs ago #14
??? HTF did bullets get pulled into this? wnylib 15 hrs ago #16
You are correct. Layzeebeaver 15 hrs ago #18
do you even know NJCher 12 hrs ago #22
Thank for the ruler on the knuckles Layzeebeaver 11 hrs ago #27
Analogy Layzeebeaver 15 hrs ago #19
How do you know there aren't "boots on the ground"? Klarkashton 11 hrs ago #32
Didn't They Get The Message? modrepub 16 hrs ago #4
The bombing will continue until morale improves. Dr. T 16 hrs ago #6
Prince is a fool just like all the grifting MAGAs. BradBo 16 hrs ago #5
Sigh lonely bird 16 hrs ago #9
stated by the asshole whose whole business model is based on war. nt Javaman 16 hrs ago #10
Guess the King hasn't given him a government contract recently. Vinca 15 hrs ago #15
Send him and his comrades to Iran...................... Lovie777 11 hrs ago #26

Skittles

(170,816 posts)
1. OMG ALL THESE FUCKING MAGAT ASSHOLES CAN GO FUCK THEMSELVES
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 05:13 AM
18 hrs ago

JUST HOW FUCKING STUPID DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO BELIEVE IN DONALD FUCKING TRUMP?!?"!?!

Layzeebeaver

(2,285 posts)
11. Did I minimise the death of children?
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 07:38 AM
15 hrs ago

NO.

I only make mention of using correct terms when describing whats going on.

"US Invasion causes deaths of school children" is not factually correct
"US Air attack causes deaths of school Children" IS factually correct.


Do not let anger cause us to lose our ability to accurately communicate.

niyad

(131,460 posts)
13. What, to your mind, is the difference? Not snark, I seriously want to know
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 07:42 AM
15 hrs ago

the difference between invading their airspace in an air attack and invasion.

Layzeebeaver

(2,285 posts)
17. I have no problem with accurate language.
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 07:57 AM
15 hrs ago

In your response post you further clarified that it's an" invasion of airspace".

This can be even further clarified. Because an "invasion of airspace" does not in and of itself always equate to an air attack. But an air attack, by it's very nature, equates to both an attack and an invasion of airspace..

Accurate language is important. Otherwise the reader will discount what is trying to be communicated.

But then again, one can always just start with 'THE CHILDREN!" and expect folks to pay appropriate attention. That approach never resonates with me - I am a less emotional and more intellectual reader - that's just me. No offence intended and none taken.

From MY PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE: The deaths of children in this instance is horrific. However, I also feel that is really important in times like these that we are crystal clear in our communications about the circumstances surrounding critical issues. Using incorrect terminology might get the writer points for trying something novel or innovative, but it does not help accurately convey the facts about a situation.

This is only my personal opinion regarding style of communications - IT IS NOT A JUDGEMENT ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES SURROUNDING THE DEATHS OF IRANIAN SCHOOL CHILDREN.

niyad

(131,460 posts)
20. And yet, with all those words, you did not answer the question, nor tell
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 09:37 AM
13 hrs ago

us which dictionary you are using. Duly noted.

haele

(15,298 posts)
23. Invasion is boots on the ground. Air strikes are to aid
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 11:19 AM
12 hrs ago

The Saudis and Likudniks in taking down their "existential enemy", the Shia Iranians and their proxies.
Maybe we're even assisting Russia by damaging an oil supplier competitor.
We aren't invading, as we aren't putting boots on the ground or taking territory.

The US is still complicate in that this particular military action is a destabilizing attack rather than an actual invasion.
Now, if the Saudis want to go in and split Iran up amongst royal family members or tribal/corporate allies to rule, then it would be an invasion.

Layzeebeaver

(2,285 posts)
12. Seriously?
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 07:40 AM
15 hrs ago

Perhaps we should now let language and meaning completely off the hook?

Do we talk about a gunman's bullets "invading" a victims body?

When the media does that, we call them out.

niyad

(131,460 posts)
14. Three types of invasion, by land, sea, or air. Depends on which dictionary
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 07:48 AM
15 hrs ago

one is using.

wnylib

(25,608 posts)
16. ??? HTF did bullets get pulled into this?
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 07:52 AM
15 hrs ago

Invading air space is not a new expression or concept. Invasion of a nation's air space by bombers is generally cause for concern. In the US, invasion of our air space by enemy bombers would cause our defense fighters to scramble and the nation to go on full alert. Start dropping bombs after invading the air space, and you've got yourself a war.

Layzeebeaver

(2,285 posts)
18. You are correct.
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 08:02 AM
15 hrs ago

But just saying "US Invasion" brings connotation of "Boots on the ground" - which it is not.

There once was a day when we said "We bombed" or "We invaded". and they actually meant something specific,

I guess today that doesn't really matter.

I guess accurate language and descriptions are unimportant now.

I stand corrected. Carry on.

Over and out on this subject.

NJCher

(42,936 posts)
22. do you even know
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 11:00 AM
12 hrs ago

the difference between connotation and denotation? You were arguing denotation at the beginning of your "argument," but now you tell us it's connotation; I quote from your post:

But just saying "US Invasion" brings connotation of "Boots on the ground" - which it is not.

You should know better than to hijack a thread over a point you don't understand, but you were corrected in several posts. I hope you learned something

Signed,

English teacher

Layzeebeaver

(2,285 posts)
27. Thank for the ruler on the knuckles
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 12:00 PM
11 hrs ago

Let’s agree that we will use denotation instead of connotation.

I’m always happy to be corrected due to an oversight. Thank you.

Klarkashton

(5,152 posts)
32. How do you know there aren't "boots on the ground"?
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 12:26 PM
11 hrs ago

Somebody that you can trust told you that?

modrepub

(4,045 posts)
4. Didn't They Get The Message?
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 06:38 AM
16 hrs ago

A new democratic friendly regime is expected to instantly materialize in Iran after we bomb the f-ck out of them.

Dr. T

(588 posts)
6. The bombing will continue until morale improves.
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 07:12 AM
16 hrs ago

That's not a strategy, it's a pipe dream.

lonely bird

(2,868 posts)
9. Sigh
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 07:27 AM
16 hrs ago

Erik Prince is a grifter. His opinion is meaningless.

There is no such thing as Trump’s MAGA commitment. There never has been, there never will be.

There has only been commitment to grifting by using hatred. Trump continues to play these people as fools.

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