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Arazi

(8,836 posts)
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 03:56 PM 4 hrs ago

Iran must never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon

…which is why we’re incentivizing their development of a nuclear weapon.

Seriously, this is the lesson the world is learning. The US will fuck you up unless you have nukes

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Iran must never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon (Original Post) Arazi 4 hrs ago OP
Obama's diplomatic deal was much stronger, had teeth, and was having positive results. Beartracks 4 hrs ago #1
Note to world : build nuclear weapons ASAP Bread and Circuses 4 hrs ago #2
North Korea learned that quick fujiyamasan 4 hrs ago #4
I just hope we don't find out the hard way... COL Mustard 2 hrs ago #8
I doubt they could have kept it secret all this time fujiyamasan 2 hrs ago #11
One thing we have proved over and over again is that we underestimate our adversaries. flashman13 2 hrs ago #13
"Used by Israel for propaganda " PCIntern 1 hr ago #15
Israel is fully capable of defending themselves fujiyamasan 1 hr ago #16
Defense Tasmanian Devil 4 hrs ago #3
Agree. I know it's madness. Bread and Circuses 4 hrs ago #5
Ukraine had nukes and gave them up in return for a promise MadameButterfly 1 hr ago #17
Budapest Memorandum Tasmanian Devil 59 min ago #20
I didn't know Belarus was party to it. MadameButterfly 52 min ago #21
Neither should any other country. Srkdqltr 3 hrs ago #6
And neither should we. Initech 3 hrs ago #7
Yes, it has become dangerous to the world that the US has nukes MadameButterfly 1 hr ago #19
Strange how America carries out undeclared war aggression on other countries . . . Aussie105 2 hrs ago #9
Every nation is entitled to self-defense, including a credible deterrent. dalton99a 2 hrs ago #10
This credible deterrent also is a blank check to invade other countries MadameButterfly 1 hr ago #18
Canada should develop tactical nukes. roamer65 2 hrs ago #12
Nuclear is always evoked to justify fossil fuel driven wars. NNadir 2 hrs ago #14

fujiyamasan

(1,502 posts)
11. I doubt they could have kept it secret all this time
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 05:46 PM
2 hrs ago

there have been no detected tests by the CIA. Iran would have performed them by now for deterrence. That also would have been used by Israel for propaganda.

Iran knew its military was severely outmatched by not just the US (that’s a given), but Israel alone. I think that’s why they have been attempting to negotiate an off ramp for years, even when they kept getting hit by Israel. The retaliatory strikes up until now have been mostly symbolic. If they could have hit back harder, they likely would have. I think Israel has been testing Iran’s defenses for years now, and realized it was mostly a joke.

It was always a paper tiger, except for its terrorist proxies and oil.

That said, this was not our fight. And if this was about regime change, this was up to Iranians to take over their government and have to satisfaction of taking out the ayatollah. Who knows where this leads. Bibi has wanted this for years. We’re just an Israeli mercenary wing, yet we don’t even get paid. We pay them.

flashman13

(2,268 posts)
13. One thing we have proved over and over again is that we underestimate our adversaries.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 05:58 PM
2 hrs ago

Japan, Vietnam, and Iraq immediately come to mind. Those were all very costly mistakes.

PCIntern

(28,178 posts)
15. "Used by Israel for propaganda "
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 06:22 PM
1 hr ago

Israel is one nuclear catastrophe away from extinction- which apparently would please many many individuals.

They’re not gonna let it happen no matter what. Never again.

fujiyamasan

(1,502 posts)
16. Israel is fully capable of defending themselves
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 06:24 PM
1 hr ago

Tired of using my tax money to fund their baby killing machine.

Tasmanian Devil

(106 posts)
3. Defense
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 04:06 PM
4 hrs ago

Ukraine, Iran, Iraq and Libya are all examples of countries that should have had nukes to defend themselves against invasions by the rogue nations of the world.

You can probably think of others.

Bread and Circuses

(1,832 posts)
5. Agree. I know it's madness.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 04:17 PM
4 hrs ago

But we see that Imperial Powers will continue to attack and manipulate non-nuclear powers.

This world is a hell hole.

MadameButterfly

(3,957 posts)
17. Ukraine had nukes and gave them up in return for a promise
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 06:57 PM
1 hr ago

that the US and the West would protect it from invasions. We see how that went.

MadameButterfly

(3,957 posts)
21. I didn't know Belarus was party to it.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 07:29 PM
52 min ago

They are pretty much controlled by Russia now. You don't always need an invading army, just control the "president" and support him in suppressing democracy.

Of course, Yeltsin was trying to pursue democracy in Russia. Russia itself has been taken over.

All lessons for the world to arm itself instead of make peace.

Srkdqltr

(9,642 posts)
6. Neither should any other country.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 04:58 PM
3 hrs ago

Who is anyone to tell someone they can't have something?
No one should have nukes. No group of people are capable of not using what they have.

Initech

(108,359 posts)
7. And neither should we.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 05:02 PM
3 hrs ago

Especially with the Murdoch approved criminal cabal at the helm, what could possibly go wrong?

MadameButterfly

(3,957 posts)
19. Yes, it has become dangerous to the world that the US has nukes
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 07:05 PM
1 hr ago

since we've elected a mentally ill leader. We have shown we can't guarantee to responsibly manage our own nukes.

Aussie105

(7,779 posts)
9. Strange how America carries out undeclared war aggression on other countries . . .
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 05:41 PM
2 hrs ago

but only ones that are militarily weaker or have no nukes?

Incentive to develop some nukes that can be pointed at America!
Or have a bigger army than America, like China.

"We need nukes for our safety!" must be a common thought amongst leaders around the world.

dalton99a

(93,381 posts)
10. Every nation is entitled to self-defense, including a credible deterrent.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 05:45 PM
2 hrs ago

It's a shame Japan, Taiwan and South Korea don't have nuclear weapons. They live in fear of China/North Korea and depend on the U.S. for protection.



MadameButterfly

(3,957 posts)
18. This credible deterrent also is a blank check to invade other countries
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 07:02 PM
1 hr ago

The world would not have tolerated Russia invading Ukraine if they couldn't threaten us with nukes. Biden would not have been so slow and careful about sending Ukraine help. It's clear Russia's army was overrated and a serious NATO response could have overpowered them before so much damage was done.

roamer65

(37,882 posts)
12. Canada should develop tactical nukes.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 05:49 PM
2 hrs ago

That would stop the 51st state bullshit.

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