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senseandsensibility

(24,646 posts)
Wed Feb 25, 2026, 03:09 PM 2 hrs ago

But we can't have a female President, right?

I just watched Abigail Spanberger's rebuttal to the SOTU from last night. It was too late for me to watch last night. Here's my reaction: She destroyed trump. She made more cogent points in her short response than trump made in almost two hours, by far. She was presidential. She was strong. She spoke up for the American people and spoke truth to power. She was not afraid to call out the administration's corruption. AND she didn't lie.

But for some reason it seems that it is conventional wisdom, even among Dems, that she is not in the running for 2028. No women are. Are we that spooked by 2024 and the Harris campaign?

Look, I get it. 2024 was brutal and playing it safe is extremely tempting. I feel it too. But it's a damn shame.

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But we can't have a female President, right? (Original Post) senseandsensibility 2 hrs ago OP
Rec for "it's a damn shame". Truer words never spoken. Whyisthisstillclose 2 hrs ago #1
I'd like to believe that we could Bettie 2 hrs ago #2
I feel similarly senseandsensibility 2 hrs ago #3
Spanberger just got to the Governor's office Fiendish Thingy 1 hr ago #4
The same people who are pushing talking points to discourage women from running Quiet Em 1 hr ago #5
Well, sometimes reality has a way of overtaking "conventional wisdom" senseandsensibility 1 hr ago #7
No one is running yet. Not even Newsom. maxsolomon 1 hr ago #6
I wish this rhetoric would stop here TheProle 1 hr ago #8
Bingo. It's getting harder and harder to tell where this messaging is originating from. PeaceWave 39 min ago #10
I loved what I heard from the governor BaronChocula 43 min ago #9
No, we can't get the red out 38 min ago #11
Two capable women Aviation Pro 37 min ago #12
Careful what to wish for. The Grand Illuminist 35 min ago #13
And that has Nothing to do with Cha 3 min ago #18
The first female POTUS will be a GOPer leftstreet 29 min ago #14
I will continue to support women candidates. The consequences of NOT going with the woman are becoming... NNadir 20 min ago #15
To me she didn't project strength. Hieronymus Phact 17 min ago #16
I'm with you. And WHY is a male candidate playing it safe? We need to get over the hidden misogyny, dammit. Joinfortmill 4 min ago #17
Running as "a woman" is asking to lose gulliver 59 sec ago #19

Bettie

(19,533 posts)
2. I'd like to believe that we could
Wed Feb 25, 2026, 03:17 PM
2 hrs ago

but misogyny is stronger even than racism.

So, no, we can't have a female president.

Growing, up, I thought we could. I have no such hope anymore.

senseandsensibility

(24,646 posts)
3. I feel similarly
Wed Feb 25, 2026, 03:22 PM
2 hrs ago

I might be a little more optimistic, but I don't think it's in the cards for 2028. The situation is too dire and people are too risk adverse to "take a chance" on Spanberger or any other woman. And I agree that misogyny seems to be the driving force here.

Fiendish Thingy

(22,660 posts)
4. Spanberger just got to the Governor's office
Wed Feb 25, 2026, 03:48 PM
1 hr ago

She’s not running in 2028

The Dem nominee in 2028 will be a straight white male not named Shapiro or Newsom.

I don’t like it (I had hoped Whitmer would get the nod), but it’s a reality we need to face.

Quiet Em

(2,722 posts)
5. The same people who are pushing talking points to discourage women from running
Wed Feb 25, 2026, 03:59 PM
1 hr ago

also believed that Mikie Sherrill would not win NJ. Sherrill crushed it. This talking point does not line up with where the Democratic Party is right now. Hopefully the March 3rd election in Texas will knock down this talking point as well.

senseandsensibility

(24,646 posts)
7. Well, sometimes reality has a way of overtaking "conventional wisdom"
Wed Feb 25, 2026, 04:17 PM
1 hr ago

We'll see if this is one of those times.

TheProle

(3,952 posts)
8. I wish this rhetoric would stop here
Wed Feb 25, 2026, 04:24 PM
1 hr ago

I know it's said out of frustration and/or sarcasm, but yes we can elect a woman and papering the site with it is a terrible signal to young/new Democrats.

PeaceWave

(3,008 posts)
10. Bingo. It's getting harder and harder to tell where this messaging is originating from.
Wed Feb 25, 2026, 04:45 PM
39 min ago

BaronChocula

(4,328 posts)
9. I loved what I heard from the governor
Wed Feb 25, 2026, 04:41 PM
43 min ago

I heard a lot of "all of us vs. trump" which is a great way to marginalize him. She could have gone on for an hour given this conman's failures, but she kept it concise and short without giving us too much to ruminate over.

get the red out

(14,015 posts)
11. No, we can't
Wed Feb 25, 2026, 04:45 PM
38 min ago

The risk is democracy right now. I wish it was different, but I believe there are people who would starve their families before voting for a woman for President.

Aviation Pro

(15,404 posts)
12. Two capable women
Wed Feb 25, 2026, 04:46 PM
37 min ago

Were defeated by a fucking pedophile because men of the loser persuasion can’t abide by the fact that they were out competed by them.

Let that sink in.

NNadir

(37,718 posts)
15. I will continue to support women candidates. The consequences of NOT going with the woman are becoming...
Wed Feb 25, 2026, 05:03 PM
20 min ago

...graphically pronounced.

Maybe we've been smacked so hard we can get it through our pathetic heads.

There was a time, I note, when nobody thought a black candidate would win, and it was a concern I had when a guy named Barack Obama (rhymes with Osama, as in bin Laden) could win.

We had Shirley Chisholm run; we had Jesse Jackson...and maybe others less prominent.

"Rhymes with Osama" was not just a twice elected President, he was a great President, followed by a pathetic fool, but great all the same.

Hieronymus Phact

(736 posts)
16. To me she didn't project strength.
Wed Feb 25, 2026, 05:07 PM
17 min ago

Her voice trembled
She didn't articulate boldness.
I don't think we can't elect a woman, but it needs to be the right model.
With a drill sergeants temperament or something.
She wasn't "Commanding". That might have done better.

Of course i voted for her, but i thought she was a weak candidate.

Don't tell me all the ways she had strength,
Don't tell me about her visionary policy,
This is between-the-lines body language level perceptions stuff.
It's not an argument.

Joinfortmill

(20,768 posts)
17. I'm with you. And WHY is a male candidate playing it safe? We need to get over the hidden misogyny, dammit.
Wed Feb 25, 2026, 05:20 PM
4 min ago

gulliver

(13,874 posts)
19. Running as "a woman" is asking to lose
Wed Feb 25, 2026, 05:23 PM
1 min ago

Just run as a leader. If you're leadership skills are good, run. If you vote or run on identity over skill, you'll lose (and deserve to).

Personally, I would love to see Spanberger run. I'll actually be surprised if she doesn't.

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