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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy Opinion About The Nancy Gutherie Kidnapping
The kidnapping was ordered by Krasnov/Miller/Patel, someone high up in the Epstein Administration.
The local sheriff thwarted their plan. The local sheriff had his men investigate the crime scene for 20 hours, before the Feds got there. The local sheriff not only gathered DNA evidence he surprisingly sent the samples to a private lab, he did not give the samples to the Feds to be analyzed.
The local sheriff has been shooting down right wing conspiracy theories as soon as they arise.
The local sheriff made an astounding public announcement saying that the kidnapper wanted to be seen. Think about that. Why?
I also believe that the small amount of Nancy's blood that was found was not from a struggle, the perp wanted her blood to be found.
So, back to why the kidnapper wanted to be seen, I believe that whoever did this had a poor illegal immigrant who matched the description lined up to take the fall, all it would take was finding his DNA in the house.
Supporting my theory is the latest news that has been amplified all over the right wing media. Mixed DNA was found at the crime scene, samples mixed from several people which is very hard to single out one person with certainty. The feds are saying that they have the capability to analyze this mixed DNA and come up with one person's match. IF the feds call a big press conference and declare they have a suspect based on this mixed DNA and he is an illegal immigrant, Eureka, Krasnov can ask for more money for ICE, for the Gestapo. Krasnov will also send the message to journalists like Savannah, don't interview Epstein victims.
They didn't plan on the local sheriff doing his job.
malaise
(294,867 posts)I thought it was them from Day 1
rampartd
(4,445 posts)Katinfl
(701 posts)I always thought this was something thought up by Patel or others. The whole thing is bizarre.
marble falls
(71,496 posts)... That's why there is no evidence past a Ring clip: there was no plan past getting even.
TheRickles
(3,285 posts)It's probably not a coincidence that her daughter Savannah interviewed Epstein survivors on NBC News. This kidnapping wasn't random; more likely it was a message to the media about what happens if you investigate the Epstein scandal.
Abstractartist
(439 posts)My theory is it was an inside job. Perhaps a caretaker, delivery guy, landscaper, etc. they see who she is, where she lives, and a way to make a quick cash haul. Unfortunately, things didnt work out the way he/she/ they planned. I think Nancy is dead, and the perpetrators are not releasing, taking the 1 million offered, etc, because they cant release her. They may have never thought it would be major news. Unfortunately, they will find Nancy in the Arizona desert someday . I actually hope I am proved completely wrong, and she is found alive and well. I would be the first to cheer.
gab13by13
(31,818 posts)The people closest to Nancy have been eliminated as suspects.
Abstractartist
(439 posts)My thinking is someone other than govt.
CTyankee
(68,025 posts)It's gruesome to even think about...
Abstractartist
(439 posts)uponit7771
(93,523 posts)uponit7771
(93,523 posts)Lovie777
(22,488 posts)that in itself is suspect.
Mme. Defarge
(8,961 posts)BannonsLiver
(20,395 posts)Rebl2
(17,597 posts)ever said the house was broken into? I dont know that I have ever heard the media say her house was broken into.
mysteryowl
(9,096 posts)I wanted to read what you had to say. Thanks for sharing.
I can say that since it all looks suspicious, this is a regime capable of doing harm as revenge.
They would have zero consciousness about hurting people. This we know for fact.
Do you suspect she is gone forever?
uponit7771
(93,523 posts)Prairie Gates
(7,695 posts)Kaleva
(40,300 posts)malaise
(294,867 posts)Bestie Jeffrey was suicided on August 10 2019
Judy saying
https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/jeffrey-epstein-accuser-shares-story-of-alleged-rape-for-1st-time-63583301512?
https://www.facebook.com/nbcnightlynews/posts/in-an-exclusive-interview-with-savannah-guthrie-jennifer-araoz-shared-her-story-/10157766601658689/
The next set of interviews with victims and Guthrie was
September 19 2019
https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/nbc-news-exclusive-epstein-accusers-speak-out-69415493648
ScratchCat
(2,721 posts)You're telling me, "The People Behind The Epstein Cover-up" sat around dreaming up ideas to scare off reporters, and decided on kidnapping Nancy Guthrie's Mom? For what purpose and to what end? You think other reporters would automatically tie the disappearance together with Samantha's interview with Epstein victims(out of all the things she has covered) and shy away from Epstein stuff?
Come on.
I'll admit something "isn't right" here and I will say this again: Samantha Guthrie's mom being a target of a kidnapping is as head scratching as an entertainer being the target of an assassination.
But this has nothing to do with her interview of Epstein victims.