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think black Americans were watching that too?
I believe I know what he was trying to get across, but it was still an unwise thing to say and the delivery was terrible.

There was NOTHING wrong with what he said.

It also was not before a "black audience."

You are helping to spread misinformation, whether or not you mean to.

him of saying nothing. I watched the video of the thing.
I don't care who was in the live audience and never made any statements otherwise, many black Americans have seen this and it's a bit insulting they way it came across.
Stop spreading misinformation about what I said.

Not lower case . . . that's a color.

Second - I'm a Black American.

Third - I'm not fooled by Right Wing and Far Left (Stein Devotee) brouhahas.

None of those people really care if we (Black Americans) live or die - but they are worried about a DIVERSE audience taking what he said the wrong way?

Don't believe the hype.

I was trying to be semi polite to the OP.

Gaffes should not matter anymore.

After 10 years of Trump, they should matter a great deal.

He just basically said he can't read like black people. I'm not sure how you get around this.

Clinton and Obama and Howard Dean and a million other Democrats had to apologize and bend over backwards to prove themselves, even when you know their record is clean. Like him or not, I don’t think Gavin is racist or has racist policies.

Meanwhile the orange turd says and does the most horrible shit possible. I’m tired of the double standard and we should not allow Republicans to get away with it.

What's the context? Was he engaged in a back and forth with somebody who said they have dyslexia or did he say that to an entire audience?

I'm not sure your interpretation is correct.

that he doesn't claim to be better than anyone else and went into detail about his learning disability.
He did NOT say that Black people have low IQ's or low SAT scores.

Gavin needs to get out in front of this. I don't know why he feels the need to talk about low SAT's in Atlanta with mostly black people.

"Oh, I'm running for president, so when I'm talking to black people, I'll talk about how I can't read and I'm dumb af...I'm just like you." That's basically what's he's doing.

reminds me of the recent incident between Texas Dem primary candidates Talarico/Crockett where the comment "mediocre black man" about Colin Allred was taken out of context and being pushed by the Republican party in an effort to dissuade voters from voting for Talarico. This is because Talarico has a much better chance to win because Texas will not elect a "black female" Senator - much too racist. It won't work because the black community is not easily manipulated - they have dealt with these tactics for decades.

Good luck

He didn't say anything like what you claim he said, yet you are passing along the racist bullshit the right wing is feeding their cult members (never mind that it isn't true).

...as """upset""" as rightwingers and some of the terminally online left feigned being, actual black voters supported the man in droves, both during the primary and the general.

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Black Social Media? We're saying that Tim Big Gums South Carolina Senator needs to sit all the way down and shut up.

It's moved from Misinformation to Disinformation - it's blatant.

It's almost like Delroy Lindo wasn't just called the n-word at the BAFTAS.

"Everyone keeps missing the point that he's telling the audience that he's not better than anyone."

Seems sort of suspect to me.

Seems more diverse than RW hypocrites would have us believe.

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to run for President, assuming he would win the nomination, if this is the issue that causes people not to vote for him......

Then no wonder we have a two term president who tried to over-throw the government, is strongly implicated in pedophile entanglements with epstein, and a host of otherwise questionable if not outright illegal activities.

The wisdom of the American populace never fails to underwhelm me.

He was intentionally misquoted.

Maybe look up the definition of misquote. I'm not your teacher.

His full statement (I highlighted his supposed "exact" quote):

Thanks for that

Sadly, I think any other politician might have been able to pull that off. But with his (and his media team's) experience, SOMEONE should have flagged that.

OK, the "I want to date you" was said with his eyes. BOT he said them!

Good luck

see post 28

Not a good recipe for 2028. I think he needs to clean up what he said. I'm black and I'm offended. It's an offensive statement, period full-stop. I don't need white people to tell me what's offensive and what is not.

I did not say I would not support him. However, it's disturbing he said that cause it really almost tells you what he REALLY thinks of black people in his mind.

the primary, let alone a general election in the way the country is today.

VP Harris lost critical swing states because of that all or nothing approach, especially with voters sympathetic to the Palestinian cause. The irony though is that VP Harris outlined a specific plan to force a ceasefire, release of all hostages, get the principle parties back to the negotiating table for a two state solution, and rebuild Gaza. Trump also told everyone what his plans were in January 2025. Take ownership of Gaza, resettle Palestinians out of Gaza, and make it the "Riviera of the Middle East".

From all appearances it looks like the two-state solution is gone for the foreseeable future, and the future for of the Palestinians is even more uncertain if that is possible.

African Americans voters since FDR have been historically voted Democratic. In 2024 that still held, except that there was a shift where among young African American males, where up to 10% of that demographic actually voted for trump. In addition, Labor split the vote, Hispanic Americans split the vote, and women didn't come out in the numbers expected.

and here we are today.

As for a politicians words, the same thing can be said about Representative Ilhan Omar, and some of her statements, though some here had no problem with those statements and implications.

So what is my point? What is their record on the issues? It is pretty clear what trump and his administration record is. Trump's administration has and is actively trying to remove exhibits and signs related to slavery and other historical topics from federal sites, national parks, etc. through executive orders. According to him taking about slavery is "partisan" ideology. The reality is that it is part of the history of our country, and like most autocrats he is trying to wipe that history from the public.

None of this should be a surprise though because trump told us exactly what he was. Did people not believe him, did they not care, or worse, did they agree with him. The philosopher George Santanyana said it perfectly, "Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it"

Because of what happened in 2024, and the make-up of the Supreme Court from the elections of 2016 and 2024, the odds that there will be a quick reversal of the damage done by trump and his administration are not very good.

Even if you didn't know it when you posted it, which I doubt, you have now been informed dozens of times, and you have been provided with the actual quote. Why have you not deleted your lie?

You're not good at this. Don't give up your day job.

Ain't that the damn truth.

We are a nation of morons in far too many ways. Not in all ways, and not all of us, but in too many ways and enough of us to be both harmful and embarrassing.

bears no resemblance to the quote.

It's a lie. And the OP knows it.

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(Speaking as someone who scored 1500 in the mid-seventies, 740 verbal 760 math. My memory may be failing in old age, but for some reason I can still remember numbers pretty precisely.)

ON EDIT: You know what I'd like to see? a Newsom/AOC ticket. Gavin can always surround himself with bright minds. But his charisma, his empathy, his kindness make up for any deficit due to his dyslexia. I really could get behind that ticket.

I would not even admit to that. And yes, I want my presidents to be smart and intellectual. I want them to be smarter than me. We don't need anymore dufuses like Trump.

Guess some folks get their news from the Post and thirsty Nikki Minaj’s Instagram feed.

It means I need to learn more about Gavin. Leading California I think establishes he is quite capable. But has he made significant errors? Supported super rich interests over the interests of the whole of his contingency? Announcing a 960 SAT score raises a small red flag. Was he pandering to his audience? Shows negative bias toward them. Just means, again, that I need to learn more about Newsom.

We don't want to elect another damaging president because he seems to know how to handle social media and project his ample charisma. The other side did that with Trump. But we need to nominate the winner!

I must have missed it.

(I was an IT director for many years. I was tolerated even though I'd walk in to work anywhere between 10 am to 1 pm. I must have been able to provide substantial value. Why else would they keep me?)

Good luck

He may be able to score much higher but I imagine it is really hard with dyslexia. You have to be smart to run one of the world’s largest economies.

I fell for it

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221043173

If he said that to a white audience in Marin County, I'd be cool with it. But he did not.

You can edit your post or delete it.

“I’m not trying to impress you, I’m just trying to impress upon you; I’m like you. I’m no better than you. You know, I’m a 960 SAT guy, you know, and I’m not trying to offend anyone, you know, trying to act all-there if you got 940- But literally a 960 SAT guy, I cannot- you’ve never seen me read a speech, because I cannot read (pauses) a speech. Maybe the wrong business to be in.

Translation: pulled out of someone's ass.

Gavin didn't say that. Who did?

Perhaps he needs some help framing his dyslexia, if he wants to talk about it.

Back then wasn't the SAT 2400 total unlike 1600 nowadays? This can't be. Yikes.

And everyone hated it, so they changed it back to 1600 ten years later.

The cope and seethe from a few folks is endlessly entertaining. I’m here for it.

Shame

And he was discussing his dyslexia.

Again, it was not a "black crowd."

rather than focusing only on the portions that support a particular narrative while ignoring the rest.

Quick! Try the "Democrats are the REAL racists!" attack, that's the ticket!

Change the self-deprecating subject and words around a bit, and say that to your significant other. See how they take it. My guess is you get a range of responses.

Either you didn't see the entire exchange or you are intentionally misleading us. Either way this OP is inappropriate.

He do not tell Black people that he is like them because he got a low test score.

These things seem to worry you a lot. You shouldn't do that to yourself. It isn't good for you.

And truly idiotic.

Was I too harsh?

See post #28

Thank you.

Big apology to everyone.

No? Then I don’t fucking care.

current guy in the WH.

I actually think Newsom will parlay this misquote and the mischaracterization of the crowd as a "black crowd" into some high-profile podcast appearances. He's a gifted speaker. His lines got a laugh from the crowd.

As we get more and more of these "clip attacks" containing "quotes" that aren't quotes, I'm hoping we'll all get tired of saying identity words altogether. They're just landmines. Saying them out loud all the time for "reasons" was always dumb.

Because it has put me, a Californian who doesn't particularly care for Newsom and don't want him to be the nominee, in the incredibly awkward and uncomfortable position of defending him from what is a baseless, idiotic smear that can be debunked in ten seconds with a single google search.

The audacity to make me, a chronic kitchen grumbler about Newsom, go out there and stick up for him is now a topic I'll have to take out on my therapist. We were going to discuss why I'm simultaneously fascinated and annoyed by Connor Storie, but no. Now I have to talk about feeling protective of Gavin Newsom.

So real good job spreading this rank dishonesty around in such a link-free a fashion.

Week. Ruined.

It’s a democratic audience in Atlanta. It’s bound to be largely black. Especially given the right’s newfound embrace of eugenics and race based intelligence, I’m not sure what he was attempting here. Poor attempt at humor or trying to be endearing?

It looks like maybe he wasn't directing it to a black audience and maybe his "you" was referring to the general population.

First, let's be clear, SAT scores aren't really a reliable indicator of intelligence due to the massive test prep industry surrounding it. On other standardized tests where nobody had a chance to prepare ahead of time, I always scored in the top 1 to 3%.

For the SAT, I didn't do any fancy prep and I scored around 1300. At that time, that score fell into the top 8% - 11% in the country, which means the average score was a lot lower. I assume the average score was probably around 1,000?

I think his comments were a gaffe, but unless he was speaking to mensa members, his comments would apply to any general audience, especially now that studies suggest that 54% of adults read below the 6th-grade level. If he falls into that category as well then that would make him different from other politicians who attended ivy league schools.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Newsom. Despite the gaffe, I think he is a gifted speaker and very in tune with what's going on although he's probably mentally and physically exhausted as well. The GOP has been working on discrediting him for years and they've succeeded to a certain extent.

See post #28 to see the real quote and how dishonest the OP was. For the record, he mentioned SAT scores in the context of talking about his dyslexia. 960 is/was about average. It also was NOT a "black audience". At least one person said he was responding to an individual which is why he said "you". He never came close to saying "black people have low SAT Scores" or "black people can't read". He said he (himself, Gavin Newsom) can't read SPEECHES (again, clearly referring to his dyslexia).

I see they are not over at all.

Also, is it just me or are they coming here from the same source?

I heard him speak. It was slow and deliberate so as NOT to offend or be misunderstood!!!!! He chose his words CAREFULLY.

From what I heard on the video versus the quotes in some comments, it appears some parts are missing.

You can’t cherry pick his monologue!!!!

Context matters!!!!

This is making a mountain out of a mole hill. And it’s all being done because he’s being considered seriously as presidential material. Influencers are going to create the controversy where none existed. In many cases, for political sport.

Influencers on both sides of the aisle, and in many non-political areas of our life, are an absolute poison. Anti-vaxer’s, ice challenges, weird fasts, child rearing, religious zealots, ALL making our lives worse. Because apparently we can’t be trusted to think for ourselves!!!!

I’m sorry if I’ve offended anyone. I’m just fed up with bull poo. Hopefully I don’t get banned. I’ve been here for years and hopefully have a decent comment history as proof that I’m speaking from the heart and not racist or insensitive.

Are very scared of Gavin Newsom.