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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJFC!!! INTERLOCHEN??? NPR "All Things Considered" epstein and
maxwell used Interlochen Arts as one of their earliest recruiting grounds. (sorrry, I cannot link, but go to npr.org). Apparently, epstein at about age 14 was a student there, and later used his status as a donor to gain access to some of his victims.
SheltieLover
(78,973 posts)niyad
(131,022 posts)BlueWaveNeverEnd
(13,634 posts)niyad
(131,022 posts)Dave says
(5,364 posts)Ilsa
(64,121 posts)Anywhere young smart girls or women could be, Epstein/Maxwell went.
niyad
(131,022 posts)delisen
(7,296 posts)It has the Interlochen connection plus information about various grifts.
He was a bad actor from at least early adulthood
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Wikipedia also cites some connection to the big arms dealer who was implicated in Iran-Contra scandal.
It is inconceivable to me that Epstein was not known to or connected in some way to the CIA.
niyad
(131,022 posts)but will read his later.
angrychair
(12,013 posts)niyad
(131,022 posts)Tetrachloride
(9,514 posts)niyad
(131,022 posts)Tetrachloride
(9,514 posts)catbyte
(38,930 posts)I grew up about 50 miles north of it. It's quite a place, right on the lake. Students from all over the world study there.
niyad
(131,022 posts)fujiyamasan
(1,460 posts)This is so fucked up. Just revolting.
Bring back gallows or guillotines for those associated with this sick fuck.
Jack Valentino
(4,731 posts)Last edited Sun Feb 22, 2026, 12:09 AM - Edit history (6)
after my seventh and eighth grade years, for piano--- as part of the "All-State" two-week program which was limited to Michigan residents only. My parents couldn't afford to pay for the regular 8-week program, and I won a 50% scholarship for my first trip there. My first time there, I fell hopelessly in love with a girl who eclipsed my talent on the piano, which was a humbling experience for me--- she could play Chopin's "Fantasie-Impromptu" at 13 years old, better than I ever did at 17--- MUCH later, I finally saw her again--- performing on public television, and she had become an MSU music professor by that time!
(Her given name was Kathryn, and her last name was the same as mine--
but no relation that I was ever able to discover, unless it might have been in 1607 or 1620 or earlier---
but the nickname she went by was 'Shotzie' of all things! Regardless, I have never forgotten her--
even recently showed pictures of her to my next-door neighbor---
taken by Interlochen photographers, which my parents purchased, since I was in them....)
My parents had a somewhat personal connection to the camp, although they were mostly not musicians, my father could play two tunes on the piano--- in my early childhood, they rented a cottage on Green Lake several times in the summer--- Interlochen is situated between Green Lake and Duck Lake--- and in the evenings, they would sit outside and listen to the concerts coming from the music camp-- the concerts were every night, as I learned when I was a student there. Before attending the camp, we made the trip there to see the internationally-famous pianist Van Cliburn, I had one of his record albums, and got his autograph! (and the Chopin Fantasie-Impromptu was part of that album, so I was quite familiar with it!)
Oddly enough, while I was an All-State student, at the end of one of these nightly concerts (for which attendance seemed mandatory for All-State students), I spotted my Jr. High teacher for math and social studies trying to make his way out, and excitedly accosted him! (Quite a 'Small world' coincidence!)
((Interlochen is situated some miles southeast of Traverse City Michigan---
so it is some 200+ miles away from our home in Lansing---
back then at 55 mph, it was a four or five hour car trip---
so actually seeing someone from home there is somewhat remarkable...))
Back somewhere around the early 1940's, the melody from the middle section of this composition was appropriated for what became a somewhat popular song, "I'm always chasing rainbows" (my mother knew all the words, having come of age during the 1940's--- and while not a musician, I always thought she had a rather beautiful singing voice.... Late in her life, when she was speaking much less due to Alzheimer's disease, I made a CD just for her with popular 1940's songs, and while playing it for her, she broke out into song--- I think it was a Judy Garland tune---
and she had a love for classical music due to the influence of one of her school-teachers--- because of that she was the driving force behind my piano lessons starting at age nine--- but I had already indicated some inclination for it some years earlier, picking out the notes of the wedding theme 'Here comes the bride' on the very aged pump-organ in our basement, after serving as the ring bearer at age four for my aunt's wedding!)
As for the 'Epstein connection' to the camp, I prefer not to think about that....
but thanks for posting it anyway, since it prompted posting my personal memories
of the Interlochen music camp, and my mom and dad....
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