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buzzycrumbhunger

(1,771 posts)
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 11:10 AM 8 hrs ago

Epstein was much worse than a creepy pedo...

... and extortionist .

Is there really any hope of exposing those in the shadows and revolting against these creeps? (Looooong article)

"Epstein wanted to reduce "overpopulation" through climate change disasters, genetically modify Black peoples' brains, and create vast numbers of "superior" embryos using his own DNA. And he cultivated scientists to do so, and funded their research.

...

The latest release of the Epstein Files contained emails with scientists seriously discussing the funding of projects to weed out the elderly and disabled, and create genetic engineering for "superior" embryos. His emails were shockingly racist, and not surprisingly, expressed his view of women as mere sex toys and breeders.

...

Like Elon Musk, Epstein had planned to “seed” the human race with his DNA by impregnating women at his 33,000 square-foot ranch in New Mexico, and discussed the idea with multiple top scientists (who chose to remain anonymous), according to a 2019 report by the New York Times. "

We need much more than the French Revolution part deux... 😡


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/18/private-jets-parties-and-eugenics-jeffrey-epsteins-bizarre-world-of-scientists?fbclid=IwZnRzaAQGs3pleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEecZ_li9Slkz2oNp8G6qW-XlLERh_OzSLWUK621aIWvZkX4q8G1hzAu-cfpt8_aem_LNMnxLrIKiIqFyxfAtKyZw

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Epstein was much worse than a creepy pedo... (Original Post) buzzycrumbhunger 8 hrs ago OP
Superior DNA? Was he delusional? Ritabert 7 hrs ago #1
They all seem to be malignant narcissists. Really sick, sick people. travelingthrulife 7 hrs ago #3
What's ironic is that they all are a very unprepossessing group. Ritabert 5 hrs ago #26
Dunning-Kruger Be Leave On 5 hrs ago #27
Correct. Ritabert 4 hrs ago #30
Another depraved megolomaniac Alice Kramden 7 hrs ago #2
What did he know of humanity? pandr32 5 hrs ago #21
Clean link so that the Guardian's servers won't see that everyone who clicks the link came from Facebook AZJonnie 7 hrs ago #4
Thanks for the direct link. ShazzieB 4 hrs ago #29
they need to be co defendents in a conspiracy for crimes against humanity trial at the hague. rampartd 3 hrs ago #33
Thank you for posting, I had no idea RandomNumbers 7 hrs ago #5
Where do we sign up for the French Revolution II? chicoescuela 7 hrs ago #6
For ages... buzzycrumbhunger 6 hrs ago #8
Yet Another Effort Be Leave On 5 hrs ago #28
May I humbly inquire as to where this part of your OP came from? AZJonnie 6 hrs ago #7
Straight from the Guardian. buzzycrumbhunger 6 hrs ago #9
Not from the link in your post (but found elsewhere) RandomNumbers 6 hrs ago #13
Thanks! Interesting article! AZJonnie 5 hrs ago #23
No, neither of those two paragraphs are in the 2019 article from the Guardian AZJonnie 6 hrs ago #14
Not in the article Cirsium 6 hrs ago #10
And he claimed Trump was the most evil person he had ever met. twodogsbarking 6 hrs ago #11
Not accurate Cirsium 6 hrs ago #12
I'm certain Peter Thiel and the rest of the Tech Bro goons were . . . peggysue2 6 hrs ago #15
No wonder Elon and his Tech Bro ilk liked Epstein misanthrope 6 hrs ago #16
A basis of comparison ninjanurse 5 hrs ago #17
Sounds like he may have been a big influence on Trump until he decided Trump was a flake. Martin68 5 hrs ago #18
I found this paragraph . . . intriguing . . . hatrack 5 hrs ago #19
"We need much more than the French Revolution part deux... 😡" KPN 5 hrs ago #20
I may be old Mme. Defarge 4 hrs ago #32
My two cents angrychair 5 hrs ago #22
They knew before his arrest. People talk. paleotn 5 hrs ago #25
It's always the real goobers who think their DNA is superior.... paleotn 5 hrs ago #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Mme. Defarge 4 hrs ago #31
eugenics Mr.Bee 3 hrs ago #34
How is it always these defective, physically and mentally repellant pond scum Maru Kitteh 18 min ago #35

travelingthrulife

(4,939 posts)
3. They all seem to be malignant narcissists. Really sick, sick people.
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 11:31 AM
7 hrs ago

Although the Bushes were into eugenics and using disease to deplete population. I suppose it's common parlor talk for wealthy people.

Ritabert

(2,217 posts)
26. What's ironic is that they all are a very unprepossessing group.
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 02:07 PM
5 hrs ago

Homely, not very smart, family riches built on opium smuggling.

Be Leave On

(418 posts)
27. Dunning-Kruger
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 02:11 PM
5 hrs ago

Dunning and Kruger had things to say about the validity of people's self-estimations.

Alice Kramden

(2,915 posts)
2. Another depraved megolomaniac
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 11:31 AM
7 hrs ago

From the article:

The New York Times did a deep dive into Epstein’s scientific beliefs in an article titled Jeffrey Epstein Hoped to Seed Human Race With His DNA. The Times’ reporters found that Epstein was apparently fixated on “transhumanism”, the belief that the human species can be deliberately advanced through technological breakthroughs, such as genetic engineering and artificial intelligence.

At its most benign, transhumanism is a belief that humanity’s problems can be improved, upgraded even, through such technology as cybernetics and artificial intelligence – at its most malignant though, transhumanism lines up uncomfortably well with eugenics.


AZJonnie

(3,373 posts)
4. Clean link so that the Guardian's servers won't see that everyone who clicks the link came from Facebook
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 11:37 AM
7 hrs ago

Which the one in the OP would do when clicked. Not dragging you or anything I just don't want FB to make any extra money

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/18/private-jets-parties-and-eugenics-jeffrey-epsteins-bizarre-world-of-scientists

What a crazy story, and deeply sick and twisted man. No wonder he and Trump were two peas in a pod for so many years.

AFA "the scientists" go, I'd like to know how much each one knew about, and more importantly did to further, these insane plans. Anyone who truly understood the goals and sought to further them needs to become persona non grata in the scientific world!

ShazzieB

(22,407 posts)
29. Thanks for the direct link.
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 02:19 PM
4 hrs ago

What a bizarre story. The whole Epstein saga is like a bottomless pit of wtf that gets worse and worse the deeper you go. 😱

rampartd

(4,401 posts)
33. they need to be co defendents in a conspiracy for crimes against humanity trial at the hague.
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 04:11 PM
3 hrs ago

RandomNumbers

(19,104 posts)
5. Thank you for posting, I had no idea
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 11:41 AM
7 hrs ago

I mean the guy was clearly evil, but I did not know this side.

This thread needs about 200 more recs ...

buzzycrumbhunger

(1,771 posts)
8. For ages...
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 12:28 PM
6 hrs ago

I suppose I should stop posting so many Choppy Boi memes on facebonk, but the horror has faded so much with every heinous bit of news that I'm pretty much ready to sit in my rocking chair and knit through t the whole spectacle. 🤨

AZJonnie

(3,373 posts)
7. May I humbly inquire as to where this part of your OP came from?
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 12:19 PM
6 hrs ago
Epstein wanted to reduce "overpopulation" through climate change disasters, genetically modify Black peoples' brains, and create vast numbers of "superior" embryos using his own DNA. And he cultivated scientists to do so, and funded their research.

The latest release of the Epstein Files contained emails with scientists seriously discussing the funding of projects to weed out the elderly and disabled, and create genetic engineering for "superior" embryos. His emails were shockingly racist, and not surprisingly, expressed his view of women as mere sex toys and breeders


Things related to the 2025-26 file releases would logically not be part of the 2019 Guardian story you linked (which I did read but didn't see such strong accusations in, though it was a good read so thanks for that ) so just wondering how I can look up the docs in the file release that describe the things in the above excerpt from your OP? Did you copy that in from a different article, if so would you mind linking to that as well? Much obliged

buzzycrumbhunger

(1,771 posts)
9. Straight from the Guardian.
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 12:33 PM
6 hrs ago

Life would be easier if we weren't limited to four paragrahs copied and pasted here. 🙄

RandomNumbers

(19,104 posts)
13. Not from the link in your post (but found elsewhere)
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 12:57 PM
6 hrs ago

I didn't find that section and neither did ctrl-F (search) in the page.

I put "Epstein climate change disaster" into Google News and got several hits. Didn't find that exact paragraph (but I didn't look hard).

This one backs up the text you have. (Fast Company, via Yahoo)

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/good-way-dealing-overpopulation-epstein-143000219.html

Epstein’s views, those conversations reveal, included peddling climate denialism and ecofascism—and illustrate how the ultra-wealthy undermine meaningful climate action.

“Potentially a good thing for the species”
In a series of July 2016 emails with Joscha Bach, a German philosopher, AI researcher, and cognitive scientist, Epstein brings up climate change in the middle of a discussion about cognition and race.

“Maybe climate change is a good way of dealing with overpopulation,” Epstein writes. “the earths forest fire. potentially a good thing for the species.”


AZJonnie

(3,373 posts)
23. Thanks! Interesting article!
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 01:44 PM
5 hrs ago

I always like reading Michael Mann, who is quoted often in the article.

This is good summation thereof:

To Mann, this is a common tactic from the wealthy, one he describes as “stopping short of denying the basic science of climate change, but downplaying the impacts, dismissing the real solutions (i.e., clean energy), and ultimately acting as enablers of the fossil fuel status quo.”


Epstein does not seem to be necessarily a "climate change denier" so much as a "it's probably real, but maybe it will have unforeseen benefits for the planet and/or humanity, long term" type. I'm not entirely sure which is "worse", though outright deniers (and especially the people who cry "hoax!" ) generally annoy me more just because it's such an incredibly STUPID thesis.

The other sort, the Epstein types, however are probably more dangerous, especially when they have the dough to influence what steps are actually taken.

AZJonnie

(3,373 posts)
14. No, neither of those two paragraphs are in the 2019 article from the Guardian
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 01:03 PM
6 hrs ago

Based on wording, the first one COULD have been from it, but I both read the whole thing, and global searched for the word "black", and do not see that paragraph.

The 2nd could not have to begin with, because it is referring to the Epstein file release, which had clearly not yet happened yet in 2019.

So I was just wondering if you copied that quote from elsewhere and if so, where, so I could read the actual article?

Cirsium

(3,731 posts)
10. Not in the article
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 12:48 PM
6 hrs ago

Those paragraphs do not appear in the article, despite the OPs claim to the contrary.

twodogsbarking

(18,193 posts)
11. And he claimed Trump was the most evil person he had ever met.
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 12:50 PM
6 hrs ago

The glove does fit; don't acquit.

peggysue2

(12,467 posts)
15. I'm certain Peter Thiel and the rest of the Tech Bro goons were . . .
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 01:10 PM
6 hrs ago

On board with this Vision for the Future.

Ghoulish!

ninjanurse

(128 posts)
17. A basis of comparison
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 01:26 PM
5 hrs ago

My father, who loved and raised 7 of us and was always there. Not way unusual, lots of men like him. These sons of Nazis who want to spread sperm and make babies they will never care about are what we need to get rid of.

hatrack

(64,607 posts)
19. I found this paragraph . . . intriguing . . .
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 01:31 PM
5 hrs ago

Several years after his 2008 conviction, publications including Forbes, the National Review, and HuffPo all ran stories on Epstein praising him as a selfless philanthropist, “a hedge-funder with a zealous science background”, and “one of the largest backers of cutting-edge science around the world”. None of the articles mentioned his criminal history, and an investigation by the New York Times claimed they were used as part of a public relations campaign to revamp Epstein’s image. All three publications have since deleted or amended articles cited by the New York Times.

Emphasis added.

angrychair

(12,006 posts)
22. My two cents
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 01:43 PM
5 hrs ago

Every single person, scientist or whatever, that took money from or openly associated with Epstein, especially after his arrest, should be taken out to a public square and beaten to death with a baseball bat on mandatory TV broadcast on every channel.
To imply they didn't know or say some ignorant shit like "I didn't know" is insane.

I remind you these people were actively kidnapping, raping, murdering and eating CHILDREN.

paleotn

(21,927 posts)
25. They knew before his arrest. People talk.
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 01:47 PM
5 hrs ago

There's no way there weren't rumors. Anyone with a shred of decency or good sense would have stayed far away from him. Such things never, ever end well and you damn sure don't want your name tied up in it.

paleotn

(21,927 posts)
24. It's always the real goobers who think their DNA is superior....
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 01:45 PM
5 hrs ago

When obviously it ain't.

And yes, we do need to put some GD heads on spikes!!!! As punishment and a warning.

Response to buzzycrumbhunger (Original post)

Maru Kitteh

(31,485 posts)
35. How is it always these defective, physically and mentally repellant pond scum
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 06:59 PM
18 min ago

that fancy themselves “superior” genetically? If Musk is such a superior specimen, what is all that ketamine and hair plugs for?

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