The population has to see that the hammer can fall on anyone, at any time, for any reason, or no reason at all.

it would eventually go to the SCOTUS, which will rule she has no standing.

I have to wonder about Canada refusing entry and forcing them back to this hostile place. They should have requested asylum right there! This being said I have thought my Canadian friends should have stopped visiting the US years ago. I could never understand vacationing here as Americans rights were being squashed and life became harder for so many. I guess it’s like a cruise ship landing on an island. Giving tours of what they wanted people to see and hiding the rest behind walls and fences. I hope more potential visitors to this place think twice and then a third time. This is no place to visit!

I imagine this is a situation that they tried to get into Canada, were told no. They then had to clear US customs again which they couldn’t with an expired visa. I don’t think she should have been removed this way, but the husband effectively had no visa. They aren’t releasing people anymore with expired visas.

I guess the reasoning to remove them together was that they were married?

Despite warnings people discount the severity of this police state. Never underestimate a madman.

They accepted self deportation where the government pays you $1000 and arranges your deportation. That was the mistake. They aren’t releasing people now also banned for 10 years. They should have spoke to a judge. It’s all back to the husbands visa was expired while they vacationed.

But while you are still on Canadian soil you have a voice. Seek refuge or access transportation home. I do cross the border from time to time and if I had an issue or needed help I would certainly ask for it. Once back in the US…a cot on the floor. Also it was stupid that they hadn’t reviewed their documents before travel or at least headed the expiration date! Also good to set up auto payment before leaving the country. It was ignorant to come ahead after being warned not to. I tell my Canadian friends to stay the heck out!

So they got 2 bonuses instead of one.

They should have seen a judge although that may not have helped. I also don’t think they had return tickets.
They would probably been better off if they were Mexican because or Latin because those planes leave daily. Do they deport on commercial flights or do they wait and fill a charter to the UK?

But not the wife, and more importantly why were they held captive for SIX FUCKING WEEKS?!?

How is there ANY possible valid excuse for that? They should've both been on a plane back to their home country the next day.

Also are we sure Canada rejected THEM, or just the car they wanted to drive in, leading them back into the corrupt clutches of CBP as they sought to get the proper paperwork to drive the car in or make other transport arrangements?

Also UK citizens don't need a visa to drive into Canada and can stay for up to 6 months (though I don't think they can work there legally). Seems possible they waited til like the last day the husbands US visa was valid (or maybe overstayed a little bit as they traveled to leave), tried to drive into CA, not expecting a problem getting in cause UK citizens are basically automatically allowed in.

What they might've done is leave the hubby inside CA at a motel while she drove back with her valid US visa to try to get whatever auth she needed to drive the car into CA.

They probably turned back because they didn't want to abandon the car

- The rental car companies have always warned me against even thinking about taking it across the border. If you ask, they will tell you to drop it back off at the lot, or park in the Border parking lots, take the Blue line to the border, walk across, and rent another car in the many rental lots in Mexico set up right along the border - just for tourists who want to go to Ensenada, travel on 2D on a brewery, hot springs, and spectacular high desert day trip from TJ to Mexicali, or head down to the Gulf of California for some fishing.

It's not just in the small print like with most car rental documents, California rental companies tell you up front before they give you keys.
When I rented a car in VA or FL on work, it was a little paragraph on the rental form. Easy to miss or ignore if you're picking the car up at an airport in, say, Denver.

Likewise, when I was growing up in Seattle, our HS soccer team had to get special consular permission and everyone had to sign international travel paperwork to take a school bus up to Vancouver BC on a exhibition game - and that was in the early 1970's.
And in those days, we could just cross the border in the family car with dad's driver's licence, proof of registration and Canadian insurance (purchased for the trip in Seattle or Blaine, if dad forgot) if we wanted to go up there.

It's not Canada being pissy about expired visas. It's the rules bringing a rental car that doesn't have the insurance or other paperwork to drive in Canada.

With an expired visa in the US. You need to leave the US under a valid visa.

Trump is killing our tourism industry. If I were a citizen of another country, I would now travel here now. ICE gets most of the attention, but many CBP agents are just as bad and they're often the ones arbitrarily detaining travelers or just forcing them to return home immediately.

These two were lucky, they could have been sent to some prison in another country where they’d still be rotting or even dead. All of these people and prisons are making money by head count.

And these were people from English speaking ally countries. Imagine what could have happened if they were vacationing here from a Spanish speaking country.

There are people locked up all over the world who will never get out that were taken for visiting the US.

private prisons have ZERO place in a democracy.

I hope the whole fucking thing face-plants.

“prisoners” - in Trumplandia one need only follow the money.

that could be spent on healthcare, housing, infrastructure.. all to improve life in America..

Instead, concentration camps and a bunch storm troopers.

You can’t leave the US to Canada with an expired US visa unless you are requesting asylum. Otherwise you are flagged as high risk and denied entry. You need to go from the US back to the home country to get valid travel visa or passport first. This would have applied to the husband.

I thought this was the case because I know you can’t go to Mexico this way either if your visa is expired in the US.

“Canadian immigration officials require legal status in the country of departure, and you will likely be denied entry or flagged for attempting to leave the U.S. illegally. “