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Would you accept any democrat saying "lets move on" when it comes to Ep Files?
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Sogo
(7,097 posts)You seem to want to "out" and shame Democrats. Why is that?
uponit7771
(93,512 posts)leftstreet
(39,764 posts)If no one's going to be held ACCOUNTABLE, if the politicians and media are just going to treat spying and sexual assaults as fundraising and clickbait, then yes.
These subjects interest me more:
National single payer healthcare
$25 an hour minimum wage
4 day work week
Nationalize utilities
uponit7771
(93,512 posts)Iggo
(49,811 posts)leftstreet
(39,764 posts)Iggo
(49,811 posts)pandr32
(14,085 posts)This includes companies who get government contracts and sitting on benches making decisions.
John Farmer
(388 posts)Iggo
(49,811 posts)Thats what Im going with.
FoxNewsSucks
(11,626 posts)EdmondDantes_
(1,602 posts)Am I interested is seeing justice for probable crimes? Absolutely.
Am I interested in following up on every crank who calls in with some unverifiable claim or make an outcast of everyone who ever emailed Epstein or was in the files without evidence of a crime? No.
But I don't trust the current DOJ leadership to have provided everything that would be verifiable? Absolutely not. So at least short term, no I wouldn't support moving on in the next Democratic administration. But whatever the equivalent of us calling Hillary Clinton in with no evidence just because we don't like them, no thanks.
dwayneb
(1,107 posts)I don't think we should ever "move on" whatever that means, until we see what was in the thousands of redacted pages that were in the "release". The fact that the DOJ is refusing to allow anyone to see them has implications that go far beyond the Epstein case and are far scarier.
The complicated part is that we keep hearing about people that were in the Epstein circle not accused of "wrongdoing". Which is NOT a legal term and has no meaning in a court of law. In my opinion anyone that associated with Epstein surely knew what he was doing (nod-nod, wink-wink) and is guilty of wrongdoing - essentially being a scumbag.
But that is different from whether there is evidence of criminality.
EdmondDantes_
(1,602 posts)But as you note what's relevant is different from person to person.
Casey Wasserman is basically having to give up his talent agency and being called on to step down from the Olympics in spite of his contact with Maxwell was years before she or Epstein got arrested. Was he supposed to know years before she was even accused of anything that she was a scumbag? If not, what justice is served by people shunning him?
Sure many if not all of the people who continued to personally associate with Epstein or Maxwell after his first arrest have at the very least good cause to question their morals, but does that mean anyone who attended a party where either of them were regardless of if they knew Epstein or Maxwell were invited? That sort of mob mentality isn't good in my opinion. My reason for setting the bar at criminal behavior is that's a bright societal line that we generally collectively agree is wrong.
Iggo
(49,811 posts)Thats a nice bright line that everyone can easily see.
BeyondGeography
(40,978 posts)For results, see today.
uponit7771
(93,512 posts)leftstreet
(39,764 posts)gulliver
(13,850 posts)No Dem would ever say, "Let's move on." Some, probably most, might say, "Let the prosecutions roll. Find all child abusers and perverts, coat them with chum, and toss them in the ocean near some fins. Keep me posted."
Now...they might continue...
About prices, health care, AI, jobs, Social Security benefit cuts being eyed for 2032, homelessness, the 2026 election, and, by the way, rampant Epstein-like crimes happening every few seconds in this country (just off our precious screens)...Can someone look into that?
mucholderthandirt
(1,775 posts)BlueWaveNeverEnd
(13,634 posts)a kennedy
(35,674 posts)W_HAMILTON
(10,266 posts)Fetterman maybe? And we all know what an aberration he is.