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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLately I've been wondering where Trump would run if the Democrats win the mid-terms and impeachment is inevitable.......
https://www.politico.eu/article/where-will-trump-go-if-he-quits-the-us/Well, it seems that in 2020 Politico wondered the same thing and made a list of twelve places. Of the six places listed below, which place do you think would be most welcoming? Check the article for the answer (this could have changed since 2020).
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| Kosovo | |
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vapor2
(4,218 posts)33taw
(3,311 posts)Tim S
(124 posts)samnsara
(18,751 posts)..eyeing that esp if the cops get close to arresting him.
ITAL
(1,299 posts)Even if Trump's impeached, he's not getting convicted. Even if we get to say...52 seats in the Senate you're still talking about peeling off fifteen Republicans to vote for his removal. I could squint hard and perhaps see 5-6, but not fifteen.
DBoon
(24,854 posts)Orban and Trump are co-dependent autocrats
leftstreet
(39,764 posts)No one is going to charge him with any actual crimes
Impeached, maybe. Removed, maybe.
He'll just have even more time to rant on social media
Deep State Witch
(12,675 posts)Most likely Hungary or Saudi Arabia.
LuvLoogie
(8,686 posts)Maru Kitteh
(31,485 posts)while shooting invisible lasers from an ordinary-looking TV remote control . . . .
NCDem47
(3,385 posts)One, they all love that gaudy gold gilt everything.
Two, Those countries love to straddle the line between the legit/respectable and the dark underworld.
Trump would fit right in.
He is just NOT the eastern Europe/Russia kind of guy.
Fiendish Thingy
(22,627 posts)First of all, Africa is not a country, its a continent made up of numerous nations.
Trump is not running anywhere- if he were to take it on the lam to avoid facing criminal charges, his assets would be frozen/seized.
The only countries that would accept him as a guest would be the Saudis/UAE or Russia under Putin.
But hes not going anywhere, because the odds are in his favor that he will never face any federal charges, and will die before any state charges ever come to trial.
Joinfortmill
(20,695 posts)As, for Africa. Yes, my bad. I should have said, 'places', not countries.
msongs
(73,366 posts)Joinfortmill
(20,695 posts)Response to msongs (Reply #13)
Joinfortmill This message was self-deleted by its author.
Jack Valentino
(4,731 posts)Trump's 2nd impeachment trial over his inciting the J-6 insurrection
was the FIRST presidential impeachment trial where ANY senators EVER
voted to convict a president from their own party!
(6 Republican senators voted to convict him, although it wasn't enough)
((How many might conclude, in a third trial
based on his more recent crimes, that
'we would be better off without him going into 2028'
is still an open question...))
doc03
(38,971 posts)is not very possible. The House already impeached him twice and if anything it
got worse.
Joinfortmill
(20,695 posts)doc03
(38,971 posts)It reminds me of Watergate, it started out as a
simple breakin and ended with Nixon resigning.
ProfessorGAC
(76,316 posts)The Robert's mob gave him immunity. He can't be convicted because of that ridiculous ruling & he we won't be convicted in the Senate.
There's nothing from which to run.
Joinfortmill
(20,695 posts)ProfessorGAC
(76,316 posts)...I believe they will construe anything he does as official, even ig it means using an imaginary calendar.
Electing dems will neuter him, but it won't remove him.
flvegan
(66,080 posts)Joinfortmill
(20,695 posts)StoolPigeon
(234 posts)I would get a golf cart because the island I would be living on wouldn't be big enough to need a car.
Xavier Breath
(6,586 posts)2naSalit
(101,478 posts)It's a continent within which there is a country called So. Africa.
Joinfortmill
(20,695 posts)2naSalit
(101,478 posts)As you said it's Politico's.
WarGamer
(18,380 posts)1) He won't be convicted even IF he's impeached by the House.
2) I'm not even sure if a DEM House will be 100% in favor due to the lame duck status
3) I don't think he's going to serve til 2029... I think he'll claim total victory and quit to give Vance a 2028 head start.
Joinfortmill
(20,695 posts)mvd
(65,876 posts)His buddy Putin would welcome him.
Joinfortmill
(20,695 posts)Ritabert
(2,217 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(178,773 posts)I'm related to about half the country, and they all hate him.
Joinfortmill
(20,695 posts)Johonny
(25,845 posts)Particularly if the GOP hold the senate or a 50/50 senate.
It would be better served just with hearings in the house, rather than the impeachment performance.
travelingthrulife
(4,939 posts)no audience except political junkies. No consequences there.
gulliver
(13,850 posts)They're actually trying to discredit our House agenda by saying we're only going to do 24x7 impeachment proceedings. The less said about impeachment the better.
As noted by other posters, there's zero chance Trump would be convicted in the Senate. I think there's almost no chance he would even be impeached. And if we did it, it would be dumb.
Joinfortmill
(20,695 posts)OC375
(603 posts)Unfortunately, I don't think it's on his mind at all, to be honest.
Blue Owl
(58,737 posts)Jack Valentino
(4,731 posts)because he wouldn't run too well anywhere now---
with pollsters now showing that he would now LOSE to Kamala by 8 percentage points,
if we held a "do over" for the 2024 presidential election today....!
https://www.thedailybeast.com/cnn-data-guru-delivers-bad-news-to-trump-about-2024-election-re-do/
Too bad we don't have 'national recall electons', in this case!
Jack Valentino
(4,731 posts)to me....
although I think he is too stupid and dementia-ridden to attempt to run anywhere
Joinfortmill
(20,695 posts)Russia was a 'welcome' in the Politico article. I didn't choose Russia because I think there is a chance Putin would refuse him for his own reasons.
travelingthrulife
(4,939 posts)and he knows far too many secrets.
sarisataka
(22,378 posts)
Joinfortmill
(20,695 posts)ColoringFool
(501 posts)Demsrule86
(71,525 posts)I think we can win the Senate...although it could be tough. But we need a big majority...Believe me I want it.
travelingthrulife
(4,939 posts)RainCaster
(13,539 posts)They love me over there...
Yeah. That's why they gave you that oversized jet that nobody else wanted.
Bluestocking
(581 posts)He wont survive an impeachment. By not surviving I mean dying. When I say dying I do not mean making his face orange but becoming a corpse.
Joinfortmill
(20,695 posts)Bluestocking
(581 posts)We can only hope
DJ Synikus Makisimus
(1,309 posts)While so many liberals seem to think it would prove that "the system works," in and of itself impeachment is mostly just pathetic. The system quite obviously has failed. Voters have elected Trump President. TWICE. If you think justice is coming for Trump, you haven't been paying attention to the Epstein case, or to the litany of pardons Trump has issued to pretty much every misanthrope on the planet. That's really how you say "the system working" in Eliteist.
Trump has already been impeached twice. What did it accomplish other than a lot of hot air and expense? Politicians always use the sleight of hand where they make some people (perhaps a majority) believe that bloviating is the same as taking action. I think that folks fall for it because they SO want to believe in the system, but it's exactly the opposite. It's just a bad reality TV show (ok, all reality TV is. bad). Politicians are usually anything but courageous, and their default position is to duck any and all responsibility. I'm sure it really "showed him" when Trump wasn't convicted by the Senate. He's not going to be convicted next time either. But even if he were to be, then J.D. Vance becomes President. What a win that would be.
The only things that will get rid of Trump are things that liberals don't even want discussed, like getting Robespierre-ed. And even then, what comes after Trump and anyone else who might pay the head tax, will probably be worse. Only rather drastic systemic change might cure this disease, but from where I'm standing we appear to collectively lack the bandwidth for that. At least for the foreseeable future.
Joinfortmill
(20,695 posts)angrychair
(12,013 posts)What is very obvious to many, even if they are afraid to say it out loud, is that Congress is irrelevant.
They can just ignore Congress because it is both toothless and spineless and completely without any power to do anything about anything.
Hell, they can just ignore the election all together . What are people going to do? Stomp their feet? Write a sternly worded letter? That is literally all they can do.
We have allowed unbelievable power to be invested in that executive branch, far beyond the point of no return.
The ultimate failure of the courts is to act as if there was a remedy to control an out of control executive branch when neither the legislative nor the judicial branches have any enforcement powers that are not completely dependent on that Executive branch it is trying to control.
Joinfortmill
(20,695 posts)carpetbagger
(5,447 posts)But, the wildest of remotely reasonable outcomes in November would be an 8 seat pickup (every competitive seat and two black swan pickups from places where they're up by 15 or so. That leaves 12 GOP senators needing to convict, from a much smaller group of senators who would consider doing so (my quick count says the "67th senator" marker only shifts by 1 or 2 seats to the left).