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surfered

(12,549 posts)
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 09:24 AM Sunday

Now hear this!

Studies by the conservative Heritage Foundation and the progressive Brennan Center have both found the incidence of proven noncitizen voting is below 0.0001%.

Voter fraud is the right’s fabricated excuse for making it harder for you to vote.

That is all.

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liberalla

(10,980 posts)
10. Only 99 cases since 1982!
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 12:14 PM
Sunday

The Heritage Foundation: Only 99 Cases of Noncitizen Voting Since 1982


Enter the SAVE America Act: a nationwide voter suppression system disguised as “election security.” It introduces new documentation requirements for a law that has existed for decades.

A Trojan Horse to Nationalize Elections

"Over the last decade, Donald Trump and Republican leaders have doubled down on the conspiracy theory that large numbers of noncitizens are voting. They have used this fabricated threat to justify increasingly harsh voting restrictions.

They claim that noncitizens are flooding voter rolls, illegally swinging elections to favor Democrats—and that the only “solution” is to require proof of citizenship. The data tells a very different story.

-snip

"But one of the most concerning features is how deeply the SAVE Act embeds immigration and homeland security agencies into the voting process. DHS becomes a central gatekeeper of voter eligibility. Data sharing is normalized. Flagged voters may trigger removal investigations.


Voting—a core constitutional right—becomes entangled with federal surveillance systems never designed for election administration."

more at link


This is seriously nefarious, vile, villainous and just generally phucked up!
We need to rid ourselves of this evil administration of criminals...
It can't happen soon enough!


Maraya1969

(23,475 posts)
18. If non citizens are controlling our elections then that is the way Trump got in.
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 02:30 PM
Sunday

"How do we know that you were not elected by large swaths of illegal voting?"

Jerry2144

(3,239 posts)
3. one part per million
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 10:32 AM
Sunday

That is negligible. From a risk management perspective, this is an extremely poor investment in reducing that risk further. It happens so rarely and doesn't have as bad of consequences as other issues, like voter suppression, voter repression, and fraud propagated by citizens united.

patphil

(8,887 posts)
5. At 1 part per million, there would be 160 non-citizens voting in a 160 million vote election.
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 11:32 AM
Sunday

Jerry2144

(3,239 posts)
17. probably. But I read stories every time about how idiots think
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 02:12 PM
Sunday

it is easy to fraudently vote because Fox "News" and their ilk say it's rampant. And they try voting twice and get caught. So it's possible a total of 160 people across the full country commit fraud.

The point is that proven fraud is on the order of a part per million. Possible 0.1 per million votes up to 2 per million votes.

Jerry2144

(3,239 posts)
16. ballpark value
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 02:09 PM
Sunday

When a percentage is written that small, it's easier to translate it to parts per million or use scientific notation. The point is, that fraud rate is effectively 0.

PatSeg

(52,731 posts)
6. They've been trying to sell that bullshit for years
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 11:34 AM
Sunday

They just want fewer people to vote, because that is when they're more likely to win.

liberalla

(10,980 posts)
12. The scary thing is how they will link * federal surveillance systems * into the voting process
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 12:46 PM
Sunday
The Heritage Foundation: Only 99 Cases of Noncitizen Voting Since 1982

Scroll down to:

Federalizing Voter Surveillance

To enforce the new requirements, the SAVE Act creates a national voter verification system that relies on federal surveillance databases.
States would be required to routinely cross-check voter rolls against records held by DHS, SSA, and other federal agencies.

This is nationalization and surveillance.

-more at link

Wednesdays

(22,085 posts)
13. Repugs say there's no "constitutional right to vote."
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 01:27 PM
Sunday

As I posted in another thread: once Dems are back in control, that is one thing that needs to be enshrined as a basic right: the right to vote. And it shall not be impeded in any way.

There not being a constitutional right to vote is BS because the 15th Amendment was all about guaranteeing African-Americans the right to vote, and the 19th Amendment guaranteed the right to vote for women. Because it was assumed that there was already a right to vote for white males.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,642 posts)
15. There are amendments 15, 19, 24, 26. But, repugs won't read the constitution.
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 01:37 PM
Sunday

Last edited Sun Feb 15, 2026, 07:26 PM - Edit history (1)

Edited for spelling.

OldBaldy1701E

(10,805 posts)
19. Right?
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 04:02 PM
Sunday

Weren't these the folks who used to wave their little copies of it around whenever someone showed them a mask?

Amazing how selective that document can be, eh?

Cha

(317,933 posts)
20. Sure it is.. one of the Fascists' Massive
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 08:32 PM
Sunday

Big Lies.. and the Gullibles Suck it up.

Amazing The Heritage Foundation came up with that.

Dems should Pass that on.. TY!

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