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I was thinking about the massive and costly project we will face as we embark on the monumental task of building a government that serves the collective good effectively through repaired and reformed institutions. A critical part of that task is rooting out and prosecuting perpetrators that are now embedded throughout the executive branch and its co-opted agencies.
It seems to me that the accomplices and perpetrators of the violations and corruption must somehow be made to pay -- in actual dollars as well as being held accountable in criminal prosecutions.
For the hell of it, I asked AI (Gemini) this question. Take with whatever grains of salt you apply to all AI, but I think it provides food for thought.
Question:
Assuming democrats take control in 2028, could they pass an act to confiscate ill gotten gains by corporate entities and individuals under the second trump administration? if so, descibe details of the act that would be consistent with the u.s. constitution.
Answer:
To be consistent with the U.S. Constitution, such legislation would need to focus on civil forfeiture or specialized "clawback" mechanisms rather than targeting specific individuals by name.
Constitutional Constraints
Bill of Attainder Clause (Article I, Section 9): Congress cannot pass a law that singles out specific individuals or corporations for punishment without a trial.
Ex Post Facto Clause (Article I, Section 9): Congress cannot retroactively criminalize behavior that was legal at the time it occurred.
Due Process Clause (Fifth Amendment): The government cannot seize property without providing notice, a hearing, and an opportunity to contest the seizure.
Takings Clause (Fifth Amendment): The government must provide just compensation if it takes private property for public use.
Components of a Constitutional "Clawback" Act:
An Act designed to recover "ill-gotten gains" would likely need to include the following elements to withstand legal challenges:
Focus on Illegality, Not Policy Disagreements: The act must define "ill-gotten gains" as profits derived from actions that violated existing federal laws or regulations at the time, not just actions that the new administration disagrees with policy-wise.
Civil In Rem Forfeiture: The proceedings should be in rem (against the property/money itself) rather than in personam (against the person). This allows the government to argue the funds are "tainted" by illegal activity (e.g., fraud, bribery, violation of contracting rules).
Standard of Proof: The government would likely need to prove, by a preponderance of the evidence, that the funds were connected to specific, illegal misconduct.
Repayment of Improper Payments: If the gains stem from federal contracts or grants that were illegally obtained or where contract terms were violated, the government can use existing recoupment processes to claw back those funds.
Innocent Owner Defense: The act must allow businesses or individuals to defend themselves by proving they did not know or participate in the illegal activity.
Potential Legal Mechanisms
Corporate Transparency Act (CTA) Strengthening: Building on existing law, Congress could strengthen beneficial ownership reporting requirements to identify individuals who profited from shell companies used for illegal gains.
Expanded Civil Forfeiture (18 U.S.C. §§ 981985): Utilizing existing statutes that allow federal agencies to seize assets connected to money laundering, fraud, or bribery.
Strengthening SEC Clawback Rules: Expanding on Dodd-Frank rules, a new law could require the clawback of incentive-based compensation for executives if their companies required an accounting restatement due to misconduct during that period.
While such an act is theoretically possible, it would likely result in extensive litigation in the federal court system, which would ultimately determine whether the confiscations were lawful or unconstitutional punishments.
mr715
(3,316 posts)Eliminate the filibuster.
Add seats to the Supreme Court.
Grant Puerto Rico and D.C. statehood.
Enshrine Roe and overturn Citizens United.
Dismantle the Department of Homeland Security and return it to its original agencies
Eliminate many, many executive department agencies.
Give substantial power back to Congress.
pat_k
(12,885 posts)Last edited Thu Feb 12, 2026, 05:31 PM - Edit history (1)
On the first one, I suspect Trump will demand an end to the filibuster to get his corrupt SAVE act passed.
He doesn't actually give a shit about shutdown showdowns. But he is hellbent to do everything in his power to corrupt elections to favor trumpublicans and suppress votes from anti-MAGA voters.
As long as our elections are capable of measuring the true will of the American people, we can thwart their effort reshape the U.S. into the mold of other illiberal democracies. To the felon's regime, the SAVE act is essential to ending free and fair elections.
Do not underestimate their determination on this. There is a reason they've pushed a new version of SAVE through the house. The only way to ensure it is truly DOA in the Senate is for constituents to relentlessly and successful lobby their Republican Senators. to vote no.
And I say if the GOP wants to nuke the filibuster, go for it. We got you. Elections have consequences, we learned, so will they.