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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDo y'all know the connection between Nancy Guthrie and Jeffrey Epstein
I don't see this being discussed much
I just learned this and it's chilling
Savannah Guthrie, Nancy's daughter, was the first TV host to interview Virginia Giuffre and other Epstien victims and air it on TV
Coincidence?
or is someone trying to send a message to other news hosts considering giving air time to the victims?
i mean, if this were a movie, this is exactly the kind of thing that would happen and it would not be a coincidence
...Just sayin'....
SheltieLover
(78,821 posts)biophile
(1,338 posts)orangecrush
(29,564 posts)Thanks for sharing this.
Endlessmike56
(159 posts)newdeal2
(5,120 posts)The cat is out of the bag. If this is meant to discourage other reporters, I dont think its working.
garybeck
(10,085 posts)a warning to journalists who expose the truth
payback
keep in mind there is eye witness testimony in the epstein files of people saying they saw Trump threaten the victims and he said he would kill them and their family if they ever tell anyone.
the fact that it's happening when the files are just coming out adds to it.
but yes, it could be a coincidence.
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Chemical Bill
(3,141 posts)might not be the brightest bulb in the lamp. I wonder if a minion decided to do something but didn't think it out too far. Pure speculation, of course.
purr-rat beauty
(1,144 posts)This admin is evil evil evil
stopdiggin
(15,243 posts)translates into a multitude of people saying, "I KNEW it !"
When in fact .... There isn't any tissue ....
I will be more than willing to come back and and apologized profusely - if/when it turns out that this crime has anything at all to do with your thesis ... Are we going to hear from you regarding the converse?
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,741 posts)She's not an investigative journalist therefore low on the list of people to be shut up.
stopdiggin
(15,243 posts)Absent ANY sort of evidence - or really even suspicion ?
Well here's a big "attaboy" Well earned - - - - - - - - - - - -
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DemocratSinceBirth
(101,741 posts)Savannah is a personanble, intelligent, and attractive newscaster and interviewer. She's not out there in the weeds breaking stories. There's nothing to shut up.
stopdiggin
(15,243 posts)garybeck
(10,085 posts)Hear an apology from me in any case
I said it could be a coincidence
I have not stated anything other than the facts
Give me a break dude!
It is not unreasonable to suggest the possibility.
Trump threatened multiple people that he would do exactly this if they talked.
Regardless I said it could be a coincidence and it very well could be.
Also I do not expect you to come back here and apologize. Because there's a good chance that we will never know the truth.
I make no apology and I have nothing to apologize for.
Have a nice day
stopdiggin
(15,243 posts)It is rank innuendo. (at level best) And the kind of thing that 'pollutes' the internet.
There is no 'service' done to anyone here.
chouchou
(2,995 posts)Frankly, I'm suspicious as the chills go down my spine. That MF would do/tell to do anything..Anything..
calimary
(89,451 posts)He would, and WILL do, and/or try to do anything to get away with the shit hes pulled OR enabled.
I cannot wait for the day he finally goes DOWN.
NOTHING lasts forever. Including him.
Srkdqltr
(9,611 posts)llmart
(17,480 posts)garybeck
(10,085 posts)If you've been reading the files you should know that something like this would not even be surprising if it were found to be true
poli-junkie
(1,530 posts)the gunning down of 2 DC National guardsmen by a former CIA OPERATIVE from Afghanistan. Speculation of the Taliban, at the behest of the Trump cabal, forcing the Afghani to gun them down or else his family back home would be killed by the Taliban.
Nancy Guthries Ring camera showed a bearded suspect with dark wide set almond eyes. Another Afghani forced to do a kidnapping on behest of the Trump/Taliban cabal?
Its just a thought.
The Madcap
(1,836 posts)Overweight, masked, and looking for trouble. The mask and jacket seem to be a combination that a family member might recognize based on the styling and trim.
It would make sense that it would be an enforcer of sorts. I'm not saying it is the case, but that it makes sense. You never know with these guys.
live love laugh
(16,278 posts)debsy
(844 posts)The troglodytes in this administration and the rest of the Epstein class have no shame, empathy, morality, nor conscience. They lie, cheat, and steal wantonly with complete disdain for the rest of us.
Takket
(23,583 posts)garybeck
(10,085 posts)the files are just coming out now
it could be both payback and a warning
for all you know, savannah could have been preparing to do more interviews
there's many logical reasons why this could be happening now, if it were a hit job
it's also entirely possible that it is a coincidence.
in either regard it is definitely worth noting
chicoescuela
(2,854 posts)That leaves Andy of Mayberry to crack the case open.
What are those odds?
niyad
(130,917 posts)TBF
(36,160 posts)anything can happen. It's at least as good as many theories out there floating around.
Katinfl
(688 posts)Dont know if there is anything to it, but I have been thinking that something is really strange about the whole thing. I also find it strange that trump mentioned how concerned he is about it. Why would he be so concerned ? He does not care about anything or anybody. Same with Patel and Bondi giving their best wishes to the family for her safe return. I put nothing past these guys.
I also find it strange that trump mentioned how concerned he is about it.
Joinfortmill
(20,662 posts)I think the person who did this is much closer to home.
Permanut
(8,188 posts)Thanks for the info, garybeck.
stopdiggin
(15,243 posts)garybeck
(10,085 posts)It does not explain anything
It raises questions and suspicions that are worthy of being asked and wondered about
Those critical of the post for saying there is no evidence are just as wrong as those saying that is explains anything
Truth is. It's remarkably coincidental at best.
At worst it's entirely possible that it was a warning to others, a payback, or both.
stopdiggin
(15,243 posts)And to treat it as indicative, or suspicious - elevates it far beyond its true status. A 'mere curiosity' - and minor coincidence, is much more probably the case.
garybeck
(10,085 posts)the death of Virginia Giuffre was a coincidence?
and the 20+ people in Epsteins orbit, many of whom have died shortly after testifying?
all coincidences, and anyone who suggests otherwise should be scoffed?
stopdiggin
(15,243 posts)What utter tripe !
Could we please have a complete list - of ALL the people, whom have died under suspicious circumstances - 'shortly after testifying .. '
But, more to the point. Am I (and will I continue) scoffing at the 'connection' you attempt in the Guthrie case? You damned bet ! And, as I said - IF in the unlikely event I am proved wrong in my lack of credulity there ... I will be more than happy to come back and make full apology and amends. But - betting chances are real good - that's not going to be necessary.
garybeck
(10,085 posts)I don't owe you a "complete" list of anything for making an offhand remark. give me a break. the fact is that multiple people in Epstein's circle have died under unusual circumstances, and there are many mentions in the files of people disappearing, and being threatened.
Virginia Giuffre, 41, was found dead on April 25 in an apparent suicide
Carolyn Andriano, 36, drug overdose
Leigh Skye Patrick, 29, drug overdose
Joe Recarey, the Palm Beach Police detective who led the Epstein investigation, died at 50 on May 25, 2018
Jean-Luc Brunel, the head of a French modeling agency awaiting trial for allegedly trafficking girls to Epstein, was found hanged inside a Paris prison cell in February 2022
Movie producer Steve Bing jumped from the 27th floor of his L.A. apartment building in June 2020 and died at 55 after talking to the FBI about Epstein.
Thomas Bowers, a head of the Deutsche Bank wealth management division, which moved money for the late sex offender, was found hanged inside his California home in November 2019.
that's just a partial list of what i came up with. this isn't my gig. if you don't like my post, sorry. you can go read other posts. have a nice day.
stopdiggin
(15,243 posts)And, as you point out - 'it's a discussion site'. If you don't care to hear dissent - maybe don't post?
garybeck
(10,085 posts)condescending tone, personal attacks, and telling me I need to come back and apologize are not really the type of dissent I prefer.
but if you insist, go ahead... all good.
peace
StarryNite
(12,074 posts)worth considering.
Prairie_Seagull
(4,637 posts)It seem to me that it is never a straight up fight with this guy so it is reasonable to keep ones hands up. For how long? Unknown.
hamsterjill
(17,260 posts)Hes not usually interacting with anyone on an emotional level. Not that he has any emotion, but I think you know what I mean.
Its eerie and I keep thinking its a way for him to vicariously enjoy the pain and hurt the family is enduring.
I would put nothing past him.
Kid Berwyn
(23,841 posts)The TV has not mentioned that to me, in understandable terms any way.
Investigating and understanding the Trump-Epstein Sex Ring will require a federal supercharged Special Prosecutor Unit and new levels of international cooperation. If we don't find, end and remove it all, the fungus and rot will return.
Who remembers how DC Madame Pampered Sen. David Vitter?
Who remembers Craig Spence, Roger Stone and Paul Manaforts partner, who took children on midnight tours of the Reagan White House?
Who remembers Roy Cohn admitted knowing how US Intelligence used children for sexual exploitation to compromise politicians?
Not a critical mass of We the People. And not The New York Times, at all.
JokeHer
(44 posts)Call me a conspiracy theorist, but as soon as I heard she was missing/thought to have been kidnapped, I immediately thought the orange dump has SOMETHING to do with it.
JI7
(93,402 posts)They already arrested one guy.
It could even be a distraction to throw off investigators .
allegorical oracle
(6,373 posts)get their mom returned.
The survivors' TV appearance, though, is evidence of how long they've been fighting to get their experiences heard. And it reveals that the Maxwell/Epstein evil had a great deal of "spread" -- affecting thousands of people to this day.
JI7
(93,402 posts)but online it's the biggest thing being brought up for why this may have happened.
Mme. Defarge
(8,946 posts)Omnipresent
(7,364 posts)Savanna didnt know the high implication stakes and now it comes back to bite her in the ass!!