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mwmisses4289

(3,698 posts)
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 03:17 PM Feb 10

To: Most Male Muscians

Last edited Tue Feb 10, 2026, 03:50 PM - Edit history (1)

Re: Crotch grabbing
Since the 1980's i have noticed many Male Muscians, when performing, grab their crotch. What's that all about? You gotta go pee? Got an itch? Trying to draw your female fans attention to your package? Your pants are falling down? You trying to masturbate on stage? You don't need to draw attention to your crotch, we know it's there. Your performances would be much better if your hands stayed away from that area.

Guess I'm just an old fuddy duddy, but save that gesture for when you are behind closed doors with your intimate partner or in a medical setting and need to show a doc a medical related issue.

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To: Most Male Muscians (Original Post) mwmisses4289 Feb 10 OP
LOL It seems really retro leftstreet Feb 10 #1
Don't forget the ladies! TheProle Feb 10 #2
That last paragraph made me lol! mwmisses4289 Feb 10 #8
Truth. milestogo Feb 10 #38
I'm A Male Musician ProfessorGAC Feb 10 #3
Me neither. MineralMan Feb 10 #10
Beauty! So Do Guitar & Piano! ProfessorGAC Feb 10 #23
Well. I was taught at an early age MineralMan Feb 10 #24
Toga. Toga. Toga. CincyDem Feb 10 #30
... milestogo Feb 10 #39
So does the trombone. TomSlick Feb 10 #48
As a drummer, I also must use both hands and feet. MustBeTheBooz Feb 10 #47
This is a pet peeve of mine DET Feb 10 #4
twerking is simply a style of dancing with a specific history WhiskeyGrinder Feb 10 #6
So what? It is still weird and in the same style as crotch grabbing Tumbulu Feb 10 #26
eh, no weirder than square dancing WhiskeyGrinder Feb 10 #27
There is no butt action in square dancing. Mosby Feb 10 #31
Dont I know it WhiskeyGrinder Feb 10 #34
Agree, especially if only female twerkers are wearing little. But spooky3 Feb 10 #14
So THAT's what those dancers at half time were doing!!!! Thx. nt LAS14 Feb 10 #25
Jay-Z had an answer for Terry Gross on Fresh Air: WhiskeyGrinder Feb 10 #5
Very revealing answer senseandsensibility Feb 10 #7
LOL! MineralMan Feb 10 #9
It was the one thing that really annoyed me during Bad Bunnys' otherwise stellar performance. mwmisses4289 Feb 10 #11
The first artist I ever saw do that was Michael Jackson Coventina Feb 10 #12
Most male *musicians* cannot grab their crotches Fiendish Thingy Feb 10 #13
I probably more correctly should have said male music performers. mwmisses4289 Feb 10 #17
Robert Plant was rockin' the crotch grab with Zeppelin in the 70's OC375 Feb 10 #15
I became more aware of it in 1980's, I was still pretty young in the 1970s. mwmisses4289 Feb 10 #19
Jim Morrison was arrested in Florida for something like this DBoon Feb 10 #44
I can't imagine the Beatles or the Rolling Stones grabbing their crotches milestogo Feb 10 #16
Yes, Mick Jagger was way too classy for something like that WhiskeyGrinder Feb 10 #22
I never cared for it... 2naSalit Feb 10 #18
Dumb Rage-Bait. ruet Feb 10 #20
Just wear a codpiece! EuterpeThelo Feb 10 #21
Ehhh, it's rock and roll maxrandb Feb 10 #28
I didn't have "crotch grabbing male musicians" on my GD bingo card today. n/t flvegan Feb 10 #29
I am a musician sindri Feb 10 #32
I first became aware of this move when Michael Jackson... 3catwoman3 Feb 10 #33
Freedom of expression is a factor. To each his/her own. Cultures too differ. twodogsbarking Feb 10 #35
I think it's sexy, if the guy is handsome. SunSeeker Feb 10 #36
"For man is a giddy thing, and this is my conclusion" Torchlight Feb 10 #37
Good grief Chicagogrl1 Feb 10 #40
I think its actually more singers doing it when a flat 3rd is played. Eko Feb 10 #41
Crabs? multigraincracker Feb 10 #42
A heart for making coffee shoot out my nose maxrandb Thursday #49
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Feb 10 #43
maybe it's for luck eShirl Feb 10 #45
A foil wrapped cucumber is hard to keep in place Strelnikov_ Feb 10 #46
Ok. Nt Tommy Carcetti Thursday #50

leftstreet

(39,685 posts)
1. LOL It seems really retro
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 03:25 PM
Feb 10

Didn't Michael Jackson start the trend like shortly after the Civil War?

TheProle

(3,950 posts)
2. Don't forget the ladies!
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 03:27 PM
Feb 10
In 1991 Transvision Vamp's Wendy James forced mums everywhere to cover their children's (and husbands') eyes when she tried a spot of short-skirted crotch-grabbing on kids' show Going Live – after which Sarah Greene took in her outfit and delivered an arch, "It's handy that your knickers match."

In the following two decades singers including Lady Gaga, Jessie J, Beyonce, Tulisa and Christina Aguilera, along with more 'wholesome' stars such as Billie Piper and Katy Perry, have all been caught crotch-handed.

Meanwhile, Rihanna – first in line for the throne when Madonna steps down as Queen of Pop – seems happy to audition for every aspect of the role (Need evidence? Try searching in Google Image for 'Rihanna crotch grab.' NSFW.)

I'm not against a woman's right to do whatever she chooses with her body, even if it makes me want to hand her a tube of Canestan to sort out what looks like a really nasty itch.


https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/reports/a22309/daily-fail-female-stars-crotch-grabbing/

ProfessorGAC

(76,291 posts)
23. Beauty! So Do Guitar & Piano!
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 04:34 PM
Feb 10

But, I fronted the band on a few songs over the years yet I never felt the urge to grab my junk.
Wonder why. Maybe because it's a disgusting move?

MineralMan

(150,951 posts)
24. Well. I was taught at an early age
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 05:06 PM
Feb 10

that handling my junk should only be done in privacy.

I did play tenor sax and was lead singer in a garage band in the early 60s. I never did any junk grabbing in that role. We played a lot of school dances, but after a multi verse playing of Louie, Louie at a post game dance, we were black-listed. A pity.

TomSlick

(12,947 posts)
48. So does the trombone.
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 08:25 PM
Feb 10

It's hard enough to turn the music page. If the chart has "v.s." (volti subito - Italian for magically immediately turn the page), I will miss the next intro.

God forbid that I have to quickly pickup and insert a mute.

MustBeTheBooz

(353 posts)
47. As a drummer, I also must use both hands and feet.
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 07:36 PM
Feb 10

But, I still grab my crotch from time to time, though certainly for different reasons than a front man.
😁

DET

(2,439 posts)
4. This is a pet peeve of mine
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 03:30 PM
Feb 10

Same with twerking. I just find it so unnecessary and offensive.

Tumbulu

(6,624 posts)
26. So what? It is still weird and in the same style as crotch grabbing
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 05:20 PM
Feb 10

Both of which strike me as something whose expiration date has long passed.

Mosby

(19,390 posts)
31. There is no butt action in square dancing.
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 05:53 PM
Feb 10

Twerking is a highly sexualized dance style that came from Africa and then moved on to the "bounce" music from New Orleans. I would post some xamples but they would probably get alerted for explicit content.

spooky3

(38,445 posts)
14. Agree, especially if only female twerkers are wearing little. But
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 03:47 PM
Feb 10

everything else about the halftime show was fabulous.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,746 posts)
5. Jay-Z had an answer for Terry Gross on Fresh Air:
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 03:37 PM
Feb 10
https://www.npr.org/2010/11/16/131334322/the-fresh-air-interview-jay-z-decoded

"In hip-hop, the music leads first. So usually, you have a hit record and then [the record executives] throw this person on stage who has never been on stage before. So they don't have any experience on how to perform in front of people, hold the mic — all these different things you need to know as a performer. So you get up there, you feel naked. So when you feel naked, what's the first thing you do? You cover yourself. So that bravado is an act of, 'I am so nervous right now. I am scared to death. I'm going to act so tough that I am going to hide it, and I have to grab my crotch.' That's just what happens."

mwmisses4289

(3,698 posts)
11. It was the one thing that really annoyed me during Bad Bunnys' otherwise stellar performance.
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 03:45 PM
Feb 10

One I might have been willing to overlook. And it probably wasn't as much as it seemed to me, but it seemed like every verse of his songs was an excuse to crotch grab.

Coventina

(29,495 posts)
12. The first artist I ever saw do that was Michael Jackson
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 03:45 PM
Feb 10

I remember it was in the "Bad" video.

I recall at the time how the critics fell over themselves in praising "Bad" (the album, not just the song) as MJ showing "maturity" and "machismo" and being a "commanding presence."

Madonna was photographed shortly afterwards doing the same thing and was vilified for being "lewd" "shameless" etc.

I'm not necessarily in favor of public crotch grabs, but there certainly does seem to be double standard with critics.

Fiendish Thingy

(22,558 posts)
13. Most male *musicians* cannot grab their crotches
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 03:45 PM
Feb 10

Because musicians are busy playing their instruments.

You must be thinking of male singers.

P.S. have you ever watched Madonna sing? Or Tate McRae, Cardi B, or Sabrina Carpenter?

P.P.S. Yes, you are likely a fuddy duddy, although I agree all the stagecraft and gyrations tend to distract from the music, which may be the reason (with a few exceptions).

mwmisses4289

(3,698 posts)
17. I probably more correctly should have said male music performers.
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 03:55 PM
Feb 10

However, I do consider most singers to be muscians, as their voice is their instrument.

OC375

(578 posts)
15. Robert Plant was rockin' the crotch grab with Zeppelin in the 70's
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 03:48 PM
Feb 10

I love the 80's, but don't sell the 70's short either.

milestogo

(22,867 posts)
16. I can't imagine the Beatles or the Rolling Stones grabbing their crotches
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 03:54 PM
Feb 10

and it doesn't get any sexier than Mick.

When I see a crotch grabber I just want to say: "You can get medication so that doesn't hurt/itch so much."

2naSalit

(101,366 posts)
18. I never cared for it...
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 03:56 PM
Feb 10

And find it offensive no matter who does it. I tend to like the artist less after seeing them do it. For me it changes the song as well.

ruet

(10,208 posts)
20. Dumb Rage-Bait.
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 04:04 PM
Feb 10
'Madonna, Michael Jackson, I'm sorry. I did it first': In 1982 Carole Pope pioneered the crotch grab

It was 1982 and the JUNO producers were concerned. Led by singer Carole Pope, the underground band Rough Trade — notorious for their blend of punk, R&B and musical theatre laced with satire and sexuality — were set to perform...and hopefully follow the rules.

Rough Trade co-founder Kevan Staples reflects: "So here we are on the JUNOs. We don't have a record contract. We're gonna be seen by all of Canada. We did the rehearsal in the afternoon and they were very specific about Carole not grabbing her crotch during the 'cream my jeans' line."

But how can you expect a provocative band to not provoke? Pope says: "What they were gonna try and censor was me grabbing my crotch, which I didn't do in rehearsal — and then I did on live TV."

While crotch grabbing onstage was set to become a thing in pop, with Michael Jackson and Madonna later making it famous, Pope is proud to have shocked first. "I grabbed my crotch, which I claim as mine. Madonna, sorry, Michael Jackson, I'm sorry. I did it first."


EuterpeThelo

(274 posts)
21. Just wear a codpiece!
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 04:06 PM
Feb 10

Ozzy Osbourne and Blackie Lawless come to mind. And, for the record, I am NEVER gonna complain about Robert Plant doing just about anything!

maxrandb

(17,338 posts)
28. Ehhh, it's rock and roll
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 05:30 PM
Feb 10

Jim Morrison exposed himself. Roger Daltry and Robert Plant wore pants so tight you could count the veins on their manhood, the album cover for the Stones Sticky Fingers was a zippered pair of jeans, with working zipper. Ian Anderson wore a Codpiece and did some things with a flute.

It wasn't just men either. As a young man I saw Joan Jett do a live version of "Do You Want to Touch Me There"? that left an impression on me...not to mention Madonna, Pat Benatar, Lita Ford, or Grace Slick.

It's been a part of rebellious youth for longer than the 80's.

sindri

(68 posts)
32. I am a musician
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 05:55 PM
Feb 10

I play bassoon in a symphony orchestra and I can't say I've ever grabbed my crotch while performing. LOL

3catwoman3

(29,036 posts)
33. I first became aware of this move when Michael Jackson...
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 06:00 PM
Feb 10

...started doing it. I remember thinking at the time that there were few crotches I could be less interested in than his.

No matter who does it, I find it tacky and low class.

Torchlight

(6,592 posts)
37. "For man is a giddy thing, and this is my conclusion"
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 06:15 PM
Feb 10

Shakespeare always has a line that fit just about anywhere. There are people who would argue a metronome is a musical instrument (indeed, a boring by-defintion-symphony of only metronomes exists out there somewhere), but I tend to back up slowly when they begin talking.

Eko

(9,885 posts)
41. I think its actually more singers doing it when a flat 3rd is played.
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 06:19 PM
Feb 10

If they knew anything a sharp 2 is the same thing so they wouldn't have to feel so,,,,,, inadequate lol.

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