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Stargazer99

(3,487 posts)
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 07:11 AM Feb 10

Yesterday I was listening to a highly respected minister talk and I wanted to smack him across his face

The lecture was about not spending so much as to help ones finances. So I thought to myself what do you do? Not see a doctor? Not fix the car? When one cannot pay basic living expenses from crappy wages from the capitalist employer, blame your self? When I was 15 yrs old I had to run away from home to prevent incest as a young person no one to help me (where in the hell were you my society?) oh I forgot a frightened 15 yr old was expected to reason like an adult. I lost my education when I ran away to protect my self and had to work for poor paying capitalist from a lack of skills to support myself. And now you want me to blame myself by not over spending by not being able to meet basic living needs. My response is what sh***y society I live in run by males

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Yesterday I was listening to a highly respected minister talk and I wanted to smack him across his face (Original Post) Stargazer99 Feb 10 OP
... SheltieLover Feb 10 #1
Well, you could always sell a couple of your homes. Scott Bessent says we all have a few extras around the world. Vinca Feb 10 #2
Exactly! problem solved! no upkeep, no taxes*, extra money. niyad Feb 10 #6
Scott Bessant is completely detached from most peoples' reality i recently read some nonsense . Linda ladeewolf Feb 10 #22
I don't drink starbucks etc to help finances JT45242 Feb 10 #3
I believe you are missing the point. niyad Feb 10 #10
White dude in a blended mostly African American church JT45242 Feb 10 #15
He/She might be highly respected, but Dan Feb 10 #4
He. . A fool who does not have to worry about the roof over their niyad Feb 10 #13
You said it much better than me. Dan Feb 10 #18
That "respected minister" should be addressing the greed FoxNewsSucks Feb 10 #5
Ohhh, they care about us!!! Why, we greedy, useless ones might niyad Feb 10 #9
hugggggs. If you were listening in person, and walked out without niyad Feb 10 #7
So many of us, our lives have been severely diminished because of sexual abuse. Clouds Passing Feb 10 #8
You are correct on every point. niyad Feb 10 #14
Thanks niyad Clouds Passing Feb 10 #16
hugggggs niyad Feb 10 #17
I agree with everything you said MustLoveBeagles Feb 10 #23
Too many of us have. The largest club in the world, the abused. Clouds Passing Feb 10 #24
I am so sorry, stargazer. Diamond_Dog Feb 10 #11
For the most part purr-rat beauty Feb 10 #12
I think it is just now beginning to dawn on them that this new-fangled right wing travelingthrulife Feb 10 #20
That's the thing that MAGA never understands. Some people get crapped on from the day they are born through travelingthrulife Feb 10 #19
I'm sorry MustLoveBeagles Feb 10 #21
A poor shamer dlilafae Feb 10 #25

Vinca

(53,634 posts)
2. Well, you could always sell a couple of your homes. Scott Bessent says we all have a few extras around the world.
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 07:36 AM
Feb 10

niyad

(130,876 posts)
6. Exactly! problem solved! no upkeep, no taxes*, extra money.
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 09:22 AM
Feb 10

*except for capital gains, but one can probably get around those with the right accountant.

Linda ladeewolf

(1,126 posts)
22. Scott Bessant is completely detached from most peoples' reality i recently read some nonsense .
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 10:10 AM
Feb 10

Like this from him, So is your minister. Religion is meant to keep people contented and poor or suffering, don’t complain if you are hungry, it’s gods will. He must be a very cruel god to allow millions of people suffer or he is non existent. As for unreasonable expenses I don’t have too many things pressing, a good thing because I don’t have the money above a certain amount I can use.
I don’t eat avocado toast, I do drink a large latte in the morning, but I make my own. My big expenditures are usually a bottle of nail polish and my weakness for yarn and Irish whistles. I don’t have a second home.

JT45242

(3,953 posts)
3. I don't drink starbucks etc to help finances
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 08:45 AM
Feb 10

For me it is micro choices. Buy pop in grocery store and keep in office rather than pay at vending machine

JT45242

(3,953 posts)
15. White dude in a blended mostly African American church
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 09:35 AM
Feb 10

I've heard a lot of those sermons over the years...but for me, it was from an African American preacher speaking in a lower SES part of town.

But there is a place for those sermons...I've lived it in those churches. When we did Friday night movies or Friday night hoops during the summer for many of the kids what we fed them, especially towards the end of the month might have been the only full meal that day.

But that is a very different sermon than Christian nationalist charlatans. Or worse yet those prosperity gospel grifters like Joel Osteen

niyad

(130,876 posts)
13. He. . A fool who does not have to worry about the roof over their
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 09:34 AM
Feb 10

Last edited Tue Feb 10, 2026, 10:09 AM - Edit history (1)

head, the utilities, or where their next meal is coming from.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,609 posts)
5. That "respected minister" should be addressing the greed
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 09:15 AM
Feb 10

of the billionaires and corporate oligarchs.

Not the people being exploited.

A few years ago, I was in a convenience store on my job. A tobacco rep was there talking to the store employee & manager, about tax cuts and how we need to provide incentive and 'help' to job creators. And that workers can just live within their means.

I wrote down some fast math and showed them that even with a higher tax rate, someone making 2 million a year has A LOT MORE left to live on after taxes than gas station employees making 40k. I told him that the wrong people are being told to "live within their means".

It's only gotten worse since then. The rich are greedier than ever and don't give a rats ass about us.

niyad

(130,876 posts)
9. Ohhh, they care about us!!! Why, we greedy, useless ones might
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 09:28 AM
Feb 10

manage to scrape up an extra penny that actually belongs to them.

niyad

(130,876 posts)
7. hugggggs. If you were listening in person, and walked out without
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 09:25 AM
Feb 10

slapping him in his arrogant, tone-deaf face, I admire your self-restraint!

Clouds Passing

(7,626 posts)
8. So many of us, our lives have been severely diminished because of sexual abuse.
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 09:28 AM
Feb 10

Who could you have been? Who could I have been? Who could we have been if we hadn’t been sexually assaulted, not protected, ridiculed and outcasted?

I stand in solidarity with you Stargazer99

The American people have had enough belt tightening just in order to support a handful of billionaires.

Many countries in the world provide K -U education and healthcare. US doesn’t beacause the effing uber-rich.

Diamond_Dog

(40,174 posts)
11. I am so sorry, stargazer.
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 09:29 AM
Feb 10

For a minister, that guy is awfully shortsighted and narrow minded. Blaming the poor? He should be de-frocked.

They never go after the ones who deserve the blame.

I hope things are better for you now.

purr-rat beauty

(1,138 posts)
12. For the most part
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 09:30 AM
Feb 10

Our religious leaders are painfully quiet in the midst of this shit

Not all, but many. Guess their tax exempt status is more important than compassion.

travelingthrulife

(4,907 posts)
20. I think it is just now beginning to dawn on them that this new-fangled right wing
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 10:03 AM
Feb 10

christianity is very far off the mark from any traditional interpretation. It is probably to0 late for them to make a real difference. For years I heard the excuse that 'you can't know what's in someone's heart' to discourage criticism of this vile interpretation.

travelingthrulife

(4,907 posts)
19. That's the thing that MAGA never understands. Some people get crapped on from the day they are born through
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 09:54 AM
Feb 10

no fault of their own. We have so much wealth in this country but also so much amorality.

I am sorry you had to endure all of that.

MustLoveBeagles

(15,407 posts)
21. I'm sorry
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 10:08 AM
Feb 10

You were put in that situation through no fault of your own. I really hate poor shaming.

dlilafae

(392 posts)
25. A poor shamer
Tue Feb 10, 2026, 02:48 PM
Feb 10

who lives off the money tithed by the congregation!! There are people in the world that are so ridiculous that you have to narrate back to them, the scheme they are attempting to pull off. One does so in the hopes that they'll "get a clue." ~ Smack landed.

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