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(8,556 posts)Orrex
(66,820 posts)Abolishinist
(2,911 posts)At tymes, she does appear to be human.
QueerDuck
(1,239 posts)erronis
(23,172 posts)malaise
(294,321 posts)duhneece
(4,492 posts)multigraincracker
(37,210 posts)the grammar is correct.
Escurumbele
(4,052 posts)It does explain a lot....And we all thought Epstein was just a pedophile...he wanted to be more...
Celerity
(54,008 posts)It seems to square with what is known so far. Pending further disclosures and discovery in the releases, its still the tip of the iceberg in my opinion.
oasis
(53,438 posts)to digest here but well worth an investigative look.
yellow dahlia
(5,233 posts)Who executed Jeffrey?
That is all
TheRickles
(3,242 posts)Rec
rubbersole
(11,119 posts)I'd bet he has the video evidence recovered from the raids on JE's properties when he was arrested. I wouldn't be surprised at anything at this point. Thom Hartmann had a theory today that had Putin guiding this whole blackmail operation.
johne8408
(9 posts)mispelled is misspelled
I caught that too, but I didn't want to be accused of being the "grammar police".
(or rather the "spelling police"
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GiqueCee
(3,655 posts)... now, to paraphrase Desi Arnaz's warning to Lucy, "you got some 'splainin' to do!"
Gaugamela
(3,377 posts)and Janet Reno under Clinton.
My guess is that the whole racket was zealously protected by the CIA. The OSS/CIA was corrupt from the start. It was established by east coast blue blood interests through Brown Brothers, Harriman, who employed the Dulles bothers. The OSS quickly moved to align with the mafia during WWII, and the CIA continued this type of arrangement in various assassinations and coups around the world. They routinely undermined and overthrew democratically elected governments and installed right-wing dictators to make the world safe for US imperialism and oligarchic profit.
By the time anyone started to figure out the extent of the Epstein racket it was so deeply entrenched and protected that moving against it could end your career or possibly get you killed.
The worlds oligarchs are surreptitiously colluding and maneuvering to rearrange the global financial system and replace the old order with a kind of global, neofeudal mafia state. Its the same mindset as kings and barons and plantation owners thats been around throughout recorded history.
In my opinion, instead of talking in political terms, the left needs to start framing this situation as a fight between good and evil. If we address it in these terms many more people will start listening and adopt the narrative. People want to believe they are part of an epic quest. Thats what Qanon and right-wing chatterboxes give them. But if we redefine the narrative and better identify the situation and the enemy we might get broader support to tear down the Trump insurgency.
Escurumbele
(4,052 posts)Everyone involved needs to be held accountable, this is not a party issue, it is treason and perversion wherever one looks at it. I just hope the entire story will be out, soon.
Gaugamela
(3,377 posts)Nobody cared about the victims, whom they saw as little willing prostitutes. Whats important is capitalism and American hegemony and destroying the evil of communism.
Botany
(76,753 posts)those girls were passed onto Maxwell for grooming and they went onto Epstein who used them to get
Kompromat and Blackmail money from their rich clients at the same time Putin was getting control
over all these rich and powerful men such as Trump, Bannon, and so on.
Escurumbele
(4,052 posts)I guess when Melania had sex with trump for the 1st time, and I cannot remember if she said it to the tabloid herself or a friend said it, but the "news" was that "Melania had never had better sex in her life, until she had it with trump", I believe it was a simple trick to booster his ego and get him to merry her.
I am sure she could do what Meg Ryan did in the film "When Harry met Sally" with a sandwich, just fake an incredible orgasm and boost the easy target to think that no one is as good as him.
Mission accomplished so she doesn't have to get in bed with the guy anymore...
OGBuzz
(100 posts)Jennifer Welch is brilliant.
IcyPeas
(25,168 posts)I seem to remember reading she hired buses to bring the mob to the Capitol.
BarbD
(1,385 posts)We have to shine light on all they are doing.
Warpy
(114,509 posts)What we know: Epstein was a college drop9out from Queens. He was inexplicably hired by William Barr, Sr, to b a teacher at a prep school, Dalton, a job for which he was completely unqulified. Barr, Sr had been an OSS agent during WWII. The OSS had become the CIA. Barr' Sr's son, William P. Barr, was Attorney General under Dubya Bush, at the time Epstein got his sweetheart deal as a sex offender, reportedly due to extrem pressure from the DOJ and other unspecified government agencies.
Epstein's next reported job was at Bear Stearns, another job for which he was supremely unqualified. This seems to be the period when he began pimping teenagers to middle aged businessmen and getting rich quick. In fact, the rise in his fortunes can only be described as meteoric, far out of proportion to any of the other pimps in this country peddling teenaged girls, and there are plenty of them.
Epstein left the world of finance to become a full time party animal, pimp, and....?
What I want to know is why he was given not one but two obvious cover jobs. What was his real job? Who financed his sex business, especially the purchase of his jet, his island, and all the work that was done on that island? Supplying young girls to businessmen at parties doesn't pay that well, modeling agencies have done it forever. Even the overpriced orgies on his island (once he got it up and running) wouldn't have paid that well. I've thought for a long time that blackmail of one type or another was his real business. That would pay that well.
If the KGB did turn him, when did that happen? When did Barr, Sr. notice? Did he get turned or was he just playing both sides? He was first and foremost a crook, after all. How was big money being laundered through his setup and how involved was Fatso in it? I have my guess here but it's only a guess. Was Maria Butina one of the Russian agents supplied to Epstein and was he privy to her target list as she fucked her way up the right wing food chain? Butina got caught. Who else is still out there?
It's pretty clear that the words "national security" were used a lot to get Epstein that sweetheart unlocked jail cell deal in the mid 2000s. Was there any truth to that or was Barr just protecting his Daddy? I suspect it was the former, people covering their asses because they'd been fooled and burned by Epstein.
And finally, who killed the bastard? I can see jailers motivated to look the other way while rich scum was eliminated. The injuries were more consistent with a choke hold than a hanging with a soft fabric noose. Who set it up? There's probably a long list there, a hell of a lot of people never wanted him to talk about anything.
karin_sj
(1,346 posts)It's so infuriating, disappointing, scary, and sad. But the horrible thing is that it's all true and nobody in our government ever brought their (Epstein, Putin, Bannon, Thiel, etc.) plans to destroy our democracy to light or did anything about it. Obama's and Biden's DOJ had these documents in their possession. Who were they protecting? Did they think it would all just go away? Ugh. I hope more in the mainstream media bring this to light. In the meantime, thank god for alternative media.
