Don't let this narrative stop

He knows what he is talking about.
Like so many others, it didn't make sense to me that it was taking that many of them and they still could not restrain him. He wasn't a big guy.
I work in mental health, when I was in the hospital, we had to restrain patients for their safety. We have ongoing training that needs to be recertified every year. I am sure our training is nowhere near law enforcement training, our main focus is always patient safety, protecting their airway, but we were all trained to restrain in a team and how you communicate in a team. It makes sense now that I think about it, the point was not to restrain him.
There are certain moves that you do when you trying to restrain someone. None of that was being done. And Frank further mentioned, he was already pepper sprayed, so he would have been gasping for air, couldn't see well, it wouldn't have taken this much to restrain him, if that was the goal.

Many good points explained that support the intent was not to restrain but to beat the crap out of Alex Pretti.

And then a good discussion of the ramifications of the agents acting out on the DHS permissions to be cruel and violent, and with what has become a perceived promise of a cover up - they won't be held accountable! Disastrous.

Exactly what they did. ALL fire if one fires.

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The point of many of them is that the person is not cooperative and it takes one cop to get them on the ground and in handcuffs. I call what these guys are doing - gang rape. They have to experience the person's submission to feel good.

ICE has done plenty to damn itself; but zip ties might be harder to spot in the videos.