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surfered

(12,084 posts)
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 09:49 PM 2 hrs ago

A solution for funding DHS

We need the DHS, but we can’t allow current ICE tactics; so, I propose the following compromise:

DHS can be funded, but no bonus can be paid for meeting apprehension quotas. Additionally, no sign up bonus will be allowed; however, sign up bonuses for VA nurses will be allowed.

ICE agents will be required to wear badges with identifiable numbers. ICE agents will not be allowed to wear masks.

ICE agents will be authorized to carry a gun, but not allowed to have any bullets, just like Barney Fife on the Andy Griffith show.

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A solution for funding DHS (Original Post) surfered 2 hrs ago OP
"We need the DHS..." Do we though? RockRaven 2 hrs ago #1
We don't need DHS. WhiskeyGrinder 2 hrs ago #2
We don't need DHS ..... here's why Bread and Circuses 2 hrs ago #3
I'm with you! RainCaster 2 hrs ago #4
It was a knee-jerk reaction to 9/11 as was the entire Patriot Act...all rubbish and should be repealed. pecosbob 1 hr ago #5
We DO NOT need DHS n/t leftstreet 1 hr ago #6

RockRaven

(18,862 posts)
1. "We need the DHS..." Do we though?
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 09:58 PM
2 hrs ago

Yes, obviously that is a premise which will not be rejected by Congress, or a majority of voters, any time soon. But that does not make it a true premise.

Bread and Circuses

(1,702 posts)
3. We don't need DHS ..... here's why
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 10:03 PM
2 hrs ago

We used to have

Border Patrol
Customs
immigration.

We were safe. The homeland security BS started with “W” after 9/11 which…. Many say…. Was funded by an unnamed nation to increase US military action in the MidEast . I will not share the theories. You can go find them. Follow the money and the big donors to both parties.


And let’s recall the provisions of the Patriot Act , replaced by the USA Freedom Act.

Civil Liberties Concerns: Critics argued that both Acts led to potential abuse of surveillance, unwarranted invasions of privacy, and infringed on constitutional rights, with concerns raised by groups like the American Library Association.

I will not share the theories. You can go find them.

RainCaster

(13,423 posts)
4. I'm with you!
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 10:10 PM
2 hrs ago

Dubya gave us this paranoid group and we sure the hell don't need it. Get rid of the whole damn thing.

pecosbob

(8,331 posts)
5. It was a knee-jerk reaction to 9/11 as was the entire Patriot Act...all rubbish and should be repealed.
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 10:37 PM
1 hr ago

Placing yet another political appointee complete with ideological blinders at the top of the intelligence chain makes you even less likely to recognize your own blind spots.

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