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lostincalifornia

(5,012 posts)
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 12:06 PM Saturday

Those who REFUSED to vote for VP Harris in 2024 have blood on their hands, and will never be able to live this disaster

they have contributed to down.


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Those who REFUSED to vote for VP Harris in 2024 have blood on their hands, and will never be able to live this disaster (Original Post) lostincalifornia Saturday OP
Those who refused to vote for Carter gave us Reagan leftstreet Saturday #1
YES! drmeow Saturday #21
DU is the place where I started learning just what USS_Dauntless Saturday #30
He was creon Saturday #33
Yet he had a Democratic House his entire presidency MichMan Saturday #52
The bloc of "Boll weevil Democrats", the remnants of the Conservative Coalition, held the balance of power. tritsofme Sunday #56
He wasn't useless misanthrope Sunday #73
Well, if we're going back that far... Polybius Saturday #44
I'm still angry about that! yardwork Sunday #60
All murderers! OrlandoDem2 Saturday #2
Post removed Post removed Saturday #3
Right, Botany. yellow dahlia Saturday #7
They don't care! Floyd R. Turbo Saturday #4
Knock it off. Ms. Toad Saturday #5
Mythical? nini Saturday #6
Please link to a single post on DU by someone who refused to vote for in the general election. Ms. Toad Saturday #10
It is NOT DU posters who gave the election to Trump twice LetMyPeopleVote Saturday #23
You forgot the black, hispanic and youth voter. Women too. AloeVera Saturday #32
Then why repeatedly post scolding posts here? Ms. Toad Saturday #37
In the real world, trump was elected because too many people voted for trump and are now regretting it LetMyPeopleVote Sunday #67
Still waiting for a link to anyone on DU who refused to vote for Harris. n/t Ms. Toad Sunday #71
It is also naive to think that only DU members view this site. I suspect there are a good share of non-DU members lostincalifornia Sunday #65
I agree LetMyPeopleVote Sunday #69
None admitted to it Boo1 Saturday #47
I remember seeing that exactly as you describe. Nixie Saturday #13
I remember that also LetMyPeopleVote Sunday #70
Exactly. But they are not held accountable for their stupid, Nixie 3 hrs ago #75
Rashida Talib? yellow dahlia 3 hrs ago #78
Yes, Talib was actively campaigning against Harris. The sore loser Cory Bush was part of that dumbness and it Nixie 2 hrs ago #83
Yes. Musk has blood on his hands. yellow dahlia 2 hrs ago #84
Who said they were DU participants? Diraven Saturday #8
It's posted on DU. Ms. Toad Saturday #9
No it isn't. Perhaps it is YOU jumping to WRONG conclusions. The abandon Harris groups, the genocide Kamala and lostincalifornia Saturday #18
I'm just tired of the weekly scolds directed at democrats Ms. Toad Sunday #55
Thank you. Scrivener7 Saturday #11
YOU KNOCK IT OFF. No WHERE DID I MENTION DU OR ANYONE IN DU WHO REFUSED TO VOTE FOR VP HARRIS. lostincalifornia Saturday #14
Kind of pointless to post it on DU, Ms. Toad Saturday #16
Excuse my french but bullshit. Your implying that I am accusing DU members of something I am not doing. As far as lostincalifornia Saturday #19
I'm reminded of a line in Hamlet about protesting too much. BannonsLiver Saturday #22
It feels like scolding to the community leftstreet Saturday #17
Oh really? AloeVera Saturday #48
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Saturday #49
"Unconscionable" is why they stayed home. AloeVera Saturday #50
What pratical paths forward would you suggest? Torchlight Sunday #59
+1 leftstreet Saturday #15
Then why do some seem so intent to defend those that apparently do not exist? W_HAMILTON Saturday #27
No problem, as long as you're an equal opportunity blamer and guilt-tripper. AloeVera Saturday #36
Give me a link to a single post on DU by someone who refused to vote for Harris. n/t Ms. Toad Saturday #38
Wouldn't posts advocating that have been alerted and removed? MichMan Saturday #53
Not necessarily. Ms. Toad Sunday #54
Completely agree! Divisive shit-stirring jmbar2 3 hrs ago #76
Thank you. yellow dahlia 3 hrs ago #77
I watched a video the other day and the reporter looked directly into the camera and said that everything that in2herbs Saturday #12
Easy to substantiate. yellow dahlia 3 hrs ago #80
The blood is on the hands of congressional Republicans, the only ones with the power to stop it. GoodRaisin Saturday #20
Hillary and Kamala were right LetMyPeopleVote Saturday #24
K&R mcar Saturday #25
I chose to put the blame where it most belongs FHRRK Saturday #26
AND those who sabotaged her with "leave it blank"... QueerDuck Saturday #28
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Saturday #43
Yeah. Whatever. Did you hear about the guy ICE murdered today? Autumn Saturday #29
That would NOT have happened under a President Harris, and that was my point lostincalifornia Saturday #35
No that wasn't your point. Autumn Saturday #42
Exactly JustAnotherGen Sunday #61
Unfortunately the chances for a two state solution is probably gone lostincalifornia Sunday #62
All this chaos bdamomma Saturday #31
Yes creon Saturday #34
Let's focus on the republicans, shall we? Mysterian Saturday #39
Oh, good. I was afraid I'd missed this week's episode Rob H. Saturday #40
The people who voted for Trump are the ones soaking in blood. tinrobot Saturday #41
agreed bigtree Saturday #45
Well yeah, but the blames lies elsewhere too Polybius Saturday #46
I dont quite agree SSJVegeta Saturday #51
Taking this personally or getting defensive reminds me of the time I read out loud the description betsuni Sunday #57
So you ARE accusing DUers of not voting for Harris. That's sad. Scrivener7 Sunday #58
Message auto-removed Name removed Sunday #63
... sheshe2 Sunday #64
Post removed Post removed Sunday #66
Harris was right about trump LetMyPeopleVote Sunday #68
Agreed misanthrope Sunday #72
PRECISELY. B.See Sunday #74
I think the 77 million who voted for him are responsible. BlueTsunami2018 3 hrs ago #79
The democratic brand is fine Keepthesoulalive 2 hrs ago #81
yes samsingh 2 hrs ago #82

drmeow

(5,957 posts)
21. YES!
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 02:29 PM
Saturday

Everyone starting with all those who didn't vote for Carter and all those who voted for every single Republican since.

USS_Dauntless

(256 posts)
30. DU is the place where I started learning just what
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 06:00 PM
Saturday

a GIGANTIC POS Ronald Reagan was. I was in my early 20's back then.

MichMan

(16,773 posts)
52. Yet he had a Democratic House his entire presidency
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 10:26 PM
Saturday

They passed every piece of legislation that he signed

tritsofme

(19,823 posts)
56. The bloc of "Boll weevil Democrats", the remnants of the Conservative Coalition, held the balance of power.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 01:55 AM
Sunday

It was before congressional realignment, these were mostly Southern Democrats who just wouldn’t be in the party today.

misanthrope

(9,410 posts)
73. He wasn't useless
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 08:28 PM
Sunday

He was quite useful in soft-selling the selfishness and bigotry that characterized his era.

Polybius

(21,583 posts)
44. Well, if we're going back that far...
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 09:09 PM
Saturday

Those who refused to vote for Humphrey gave us Nixon.

Response to lostincalifornia (Original post)

yellow dahlia

(5,014 posts)
7. Right, Botany.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 12:20 PM
Saturday

Harris did not lose.

This is an illegitimate "government". And they are acting like one.

Ms. Toad

(38,367 posts)
5. Knock it off.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 12:16 PM
Saturday

This constant berating of mythical DU participants who refused to vote for Harris is really tiresome.

How about you bop on over to free republic and dump the blame where it actually belongs

nini

(16,822 posts)
6. Mythical?
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 12:19 PM
Saturday

I remember people blaming Harris for all things Israel and refusing to vote for her.

Ms. Toad

(38,367 posts)
10. Please link to a single post on DU by someone who refused to vote for in the general election.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 12:33 PM
Saturday

I'll wait.

LetMyPeopleVote

(175,979 posts)
23. It is NOT DU posters who gave the election to Trump twice
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 05:45 PM
Saturday

There are a ton of voters who voted for trump who should be ashamed






The Somali voter now should regret their votes

Another group who had members voting for trump and regret it

Finally, Green Party voters gave the election to trump twice



AloeVera

(4,033 posts)
32. You forgot the black, hispanic and youth voter. Women too.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 06:26 PM
Saturday

Last edited Sat Jan 24, 2026, 07:44 PM - Edit history (1)

Interesting.

Ms. Toad

(38,367 posts)
37. Then why repeatedly post scolding posts here?
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 07:36 PM
Saturday

There's at least one a week, and it got really old a long time ago.

LetMyPeopleVote

(175,979 posts)
67. In the real world, trump was elected because too many people voted for trump and are now regretting it
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 07:29 PM
Sunday

While few if any DUers may be guilty of this, there were a good number of Democrats and other groups who did such as the Uncommitted people types who refused to vote for Harris because of Gaza. These voters need to be called out for their votes.
Donald Trump has a message for voters who disapprove of President Joe Biden’s Israel/Gaza policy from the left: The Republican intends to be vastly worse.





https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trumps-hardline-position-us-policy-gaza-matters-rcna150391

In theory, Donald Trump might recognize the electoral opportunity and try to appeal to those who disapprove on the incumbent president’s Israel/Gaza policy from the left. In practice, the former president has an unsubtle message for Biden’s critics: If given the chance, the Republican intends to be vastly worse.

The Biden White House, for example, acknowledged this week that it is, as the Associated Press reported, “weighing measures to help Palestinians living in the United States who want to bring family from the war-torn region.”

Soon after, as Reuters reported, the presumptive GOP nominee shared his thoughts on the subject at a campaign rally.

Your towns and villages will now be accepting people from Gaza and various other places,” Trump said, eliciting boos from the crowd. “Under no circumstances shall we bring thousands of refugees.” Last week, Trump described the pro-Palestinian protests as driven by “tremendous hate” while asserting that the violence at a 2017 white nationalist rally with some Trump supporters in Charlottesville, Virginia, when he was president was small by comparison.


Note, at one of his campaign events yesterday, Trump appeared to goad his followers in Wisconsin into booing Palestinian refugees.


At the same event, the former president also vowed to restore and expand the Muslim ban he imposed during his first term......

The former president also endorsed ongoing Israeli military operations, saying, “We have to let Israel complete their war on terror. It’s a horrible thing, but they have to do it.” Trump added that Israel must “clean out the cancer.”

Let’s also not forget a New York Times report from March that said top members of Trump’s team want to expel Palestinians from Gaza.

It’s as if the Republican is going out of his way to alienate voters who, given their frustrations with Biden’s policy, might be inclined to give Trump a second look.

TFG will bring back the Muslim ban, give Bibi free reign to bomb and destroy Gaza and expel Palestinians from Gaza so that Jared can build his resorts.

lostincalifornia

(5,012 posts)
65. It is also naive to think that only DU members view this site. I suspect there are a good share of non-DU members
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 01:11 PM
Sunday

who voted green or third party who view posts here.


Boo1

(207 posts)
47. None admitted to it
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 09:15 PM
Saturday

But they were certainly on here spewing the type of message that people who WERE admitting to it were saying.


Nixie

(17,960 posts)
13. I remember seeing that exactly as you describe.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 12:54 PM
Saturday

There was even at least one congressperson leading that charge against Harris and discouraging people from voting for her.

LetMyPeopleVote

(175,979 posts)
70. I remember that also
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 07:35 PM
Sunday

Again, there was several democrats including at least one member of the Justice Democrats types who pushed the Uncommitted concept and who refused to endorse Harris

Nixie

(17,960 posts)
75. Exactly. But they are not held accountable for their stupid,
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 08:52 PM
3 hrs ago

destructive, counter productive scheme. Instead they think other elected officials have to yell louder after they took their majority away. It will never make sense.

yellow dahlia

(5,014 posts)
78. Rashida Talib?
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 09:04 PM
3 hrs ago

She was a problem from the get-go. Not a legitimate voice in my mind.

Not a fan of Cory Bush either - she was short-sighted.

But, that being said - Harris did not lose.

Nixie

(17,960 posts)
83. Yes, Talib was actively campaigning against Harris. The sore loser Cory Bush was part of that dumbness and it
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 09:59 PM
2 hrs ago

looks like it cost her. Short-sighted is a kind description.

I am so glad to see that there is more attention to the bizarre results in certain areas that can only be the result of errors, so it does look like a very plausible conclusion that the intentional manipulations caused this Harris outcome. I tend to agree that there was sabotage of epic proportions -- Trump admitted it himself in his thank you to Elon Musk....? Seems that way.

yellow dahlia

(5,014 posts)
84. Yes. Musk has blood on his hands.
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 10:09 PM
2 hrs ago

But he doesn't give a shit. He is impervious to empathy. He is a drug addled resentful ugly person.

Ms. Toad

(38,367 posts)
9. It's posted on DU.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 12:31 PM
Saturday

Seems to be the logical implication. Otherwise, why post the scolding post here?

lostincalifornia

(5,012 posts)
18. No it isn't. Perhaps it is YOU jumping to WRONG conclusions. The abandon Harris groups, the genocide Kamala and
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 01:09 PM
Saturday

Jill Stein idiots, etc.

You seem to want to censor frustrations that people express on this board all the time if it doesn't fit in your view of the world.

No where is it mentioned in the OP or in this dialog blaming ANYONE on DU. That is all on you.

lostincalifornia

(5,012 posts)
14. YOU KNOCK IT OFF. No WHERE DID I MENTION DU OR ANYONE IN DU WHO REFUSED TO VOTE FOR VP HARRIS.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 01:00 PM
Saturday

It was obvious that I was referring to THOSE WHO DIDN'T vote for VP Harris. Magas, 3rd party voters, etc.

lostincalifornia

(5,012 posts)
19. Excuse my french but bullshit. Your implying that I am accusing DU members of something I am not doing. As far as
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 01:13 PM
Saturday

I am concerned, I will put you on ignore.

leftstreet

(39,212 posts)
17. It feels like scolding to the community
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 01:04 PM
Saturday

And in light of recent developments, like say Democratic reps voting FOR funding of ICE, it's confusing.

Would a Harris victory have prevented that vote?

AloeVera

(4,033 posts)
48. Oh really?
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 09:34 PM
Saturday

Now you're saying you meant Magas too? Since when did we ever think Magas would ever vote for her but REFUSED to do so?

No, your implication in the o/p was clear.

If not DU members, then certainly other Democrats.

Perhaps you meant the 6 or 7 million who voted for Biden but who stayed home for Harris? Do you really think they have "blood on their hands" too? Personally, I think "blood" is the main reason they stayed home! The blood of innocents... But I know others blame misogyny or racism - odd to think other Democrats would be guilty of these things, but to each his own way of not having to reflect on their own failings and responsibility, I guess.

Or is it just a certain segment of Democrats you are blaming, the demographics where Trump increased his support? Blacks, women, hispanics, youth - geez, that's a large segment of the Democratic base!

Or is it a smaller minority and their supporters - too small to have made a difference - that you think has blood on their hands?

The questions are rhetorical of course.

Response to AloeVera (Reply #48)

AloeVera

(4,033 posts)
50. "Unconscionable" is why they stayed home.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 10:00 PM
Saturday

That's the hard truth and no amount of blame-shifting is going to sweep it under the rug - though many still keep trying.

When 80% of your base strongly opposes a particular foreign policy you insist on pursuing, you are sure to lose a certain percentage of that base.

There is no complexity or mystery here. Except for the "mystery" of why the base was ignored.

Stop blaming the Democratic base, as the o/p is doing. They were obviously neither in charge nor listened to.

W_HAMILTON

(10,176 posts)
27. Then why do some seem so intent to defend those that apparently do not exist?
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 05:53 PM
Saturday

Furthermore, if we can complain about Democrats on a website specifically devoted to supporting Democrats, surely we can complain about those fucking morons that didn't support and vote for the Democrat that wouldn't have any of this terribleness happening if she we're elected.

AloeVera

(4,033 posts)
36. No problem, as long as you're an equal opportunity blamer and guilt-tripper.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 07:19 PM
Saturday

But I guess blaming blacks, hispanics, women and youth - all demographics where Trump gained - is a bridge too far??

But Muslims and Palestinian supporters are - what? Fair game?

Now why single them out, as I've seen on this thread and countless others? Surely that's not right, is it? I mean, for one, haven't they suffered enough in the last few years? How are they different from all the other minorities and demographics?

What's the motivation here? Hmmm...

People here are pretty smart. They can figure it out.

MichMan

(16,773 posts)
53. Wouldn't posts advocating that have been alerted and removed?
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 10:33 PM
Saturday

Even if there were some, the links would just say "Post Removed"

Ms. Toad

(38,367 posts)
54. Not necessarily.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 12:53 AM
Sunday

Being removed requires an alert and a majority vot, neither of which are certainties.

jmbar2

(7,739 posts)
76. Completely agree! Divisive shit-stirring
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 08:55 PM
3 hrs ago

I see these "let's you and him fight" posts appear in waves across multiple social media channels. They want us divided ahead of upcoming midterms.

Don't take the bait.

in2herbs

(4,317 posts)
12. I watched a video the other day and the reporter looked directly into the camera and said that everything that
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 12:38 PM
Saturday

is happening in the US now and throughout the entire world is the fault of Republicans in the US.

GoodRaisin

(10,769 posts)
20. The blood is on the hands of congressional Republicans, the only ones with the power to stop it.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 01:25 PM
Saturday

But they just sit back and watch.

Every Republican needs to be voted out in 2026.

FHRRK

(1,384 posts)
26. I chose to put the blame where it most belongs
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 05:51 PM
Saturday

The piece of shit Republicans who voted for trump

QueerDuck

(1,153 posts)
28. AND those who sabotaged her with "leave it blank"...
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 05:56 PM
Saturday

...and encouraging "vote uncommitted" in order to sabotage everything. They know who they are with that BS philosophy... and so do I. Unforgivable.

Response to QueerDuck (Reply #28)

JustAnotherGen

(37,721 posts)
61. Exactly
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 12:00 PM
Sunday

I'm going to keep posting this. They sleep well at night because they are anti genocide and that's wonderful for them. But for my Brown and Black Family?


We are owed an apology. The Genocide is here now. Where did the Gaza Genocide Protesters go? Too close to home now? Too personally dangerous now?

Thanks for nothing. Glad you sleep well at night while my 16 year old 1/2 Latina, Black, White and Indigenous future member of the D.A.R. carries her passport to school.

I hope you sleep well at night - because she doesn't. Her little brother? Literally looks like Liam.


In America. We could have avoided it.

lostincalifornia

(5,012 posts)
62. Unfortunately the chances for a two state solution is probably gone
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 12:59 PM
Sunday

for the foreseeable future, and the risk of losing our democracy is very real.

I am very concerned about the integrity of our elections.

bdamomma

(69,243 posts)
31. All this chaos
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 06:10 PM
Saturday

hate, death, division and the rot of this fascist regime because people did not vote or chose not to vote for a woman. For what to see our country being violated and raped by this thuggish POS DJT!!!!! They are the enemy within. Miller, Hegseth, Noem, Bondi, Patel, Mush, Bessett, Russell Vought. They have blood on their hands!!!!!!!

creon

(1,989 posts)
34. Yes
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 06:48 PM
Saturday

Yes they are to blqme

And the oned who ran off Biden. are to blame as well.

I do not blame those who coted for Trump.
They voluntsrily gave up their moral agency.

Mysterian

(6,217 posts)
39. Let's focus on the republicans, shall we?
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 07:43 PM
Saturday

This is not your first post stirring up agitation against a relatively small number of weirdos.

Rob H.

(5,794 posts)
40. Oh, good. I was afraid I'd missed this week's episode
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 08:15 PM
Saturday

of Loudly Ignoring How the Electoral College Works. Yay.

And before anyone gets their undies in a bunch, some of us live in deep-red, non-swing states. I could’ve voted for a tree stump for all the difference my vote made.

Polybius

(21,583 posts)
46. Well yeah, but the blames lies elsewhere too
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 09:14 PM
Saturday

The lack of a mini primary (or even a convention with real opposition) was a colossal mistake.

SSJVegeta

(2,475 posts)
51. I dont quite agree
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 10:22 PM
Saturday

For the most part the people willing to follow illegal orders are ultimately doused in the blood of their victims. There is no statute of limitations on murder and Trump wont protect them forever.

betsuni

(28,831 posts)
57. Taking this personally or getting defensive reminds me of the time I read out loud the description
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 01:56 AM
Sunday

of a seedy downtown area as a place where if someone on the street yells "Hey, asshole!" everyone turns around. My mother never got jokes and it had to be explained and even then she didn't really get it. You wouldn't turn around because why would you think they're yelling at you?

Scrivener7

(58,646 posts)
58. So you ARE accusing DUers of not voting for Harris. That's sad.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 08:15 AM
Sunday

I would have thought respect for this place was one thing we still had in common.

Response to lostincalifornia (Original post)

Response to sheshe2 (Reply #64)

misanthrope

(9,410 posts)
72. Agreed
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 08:26 PM
Sunday

Anyone who didn't vote, or voted third party, enabled Trump's victory as much as those who cast votes for Trump.

BlueTsunami2018

(4,906 posts)
79. I think the 77 million who voted for him are responsible.
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 09:05 PM
3 hrs ago

The Democratic brand is in really bad shape when the worst candidate to ever run beats you twice.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,152 posts)
81. The democratic brand is fine
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 09:44 PM
2 hrs ago

Billionaires, media, influencers, bros, and tankies played a part in our losses. Racism and misogyny also played a part. Our candidates were far more qualified and dedicated than the flim flam man but Americans are ill informed and easily influenced. The crazy excuses from the electorate was depressing and we will all suffer because of their ignorance.

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