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Miles Archer

(21,808 posts)
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 08:13 PM Dec 19

This page Pammie's redactors missed hints at what else they are probably hiding

Keith Edwards
@keithedwards
They forgot to redact this page




"They forgot to redact this page," wrote YouTuber Keith Edwards, posting a page which stated, "During one of Doe's encounters with Epstein, he took her to Mar-a-Lago where he introduced her to its owner, Donald J. Trump. Introducing 14-year-old Doe to Donald J. Trump, Epstein elbowed Trump playfully asking him, referring to Doe, 'This is a good one, right?' Trump smiled and nodded in agreement. They both chuckled and Doe felt uncomfortable, but, at the time, was too young to understand why."

https://www.rawstory.com/epstein-redactions/
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Irish_Dem

(79,884 posts)
2. Trump has been raping kids for a long time.
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 08:25 PM
Dec 19

Adult women too.

I worry that hell is not a bad enough place for this bastard.

AZJonnie

(2,838 posts)
6. This exchange certainly shows Trump knew what Epstein was up to!
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 08:51 PM
Dec 19

I'm still waiting for any actual evidence he raped kids. I'm not saying it couldn't be out there, not by any stretch, but this blurb is just not that, objectively

That said, my position is it's still damning as fuck, even if his guilt extends only to him knowing for years and going along with it, not reporting it, and instead "chuckling" with Epstein. That's not that far away from molesting the kids himself, in my book.

And as I've shared a lot of times, I suspect he even tried to blackmail Epstein over it, rather than report it, because Epstein knew Trump was laundering Russian oligarch money through his South Florida properties. Which is even a whole other level of shitty than just not reporting it.

Irish_Dem

(79,884 posts)
7. Epstein certainly taped Trump raping children.
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 09:14 PM
Dec 19

I don't know where that evidence is now located.

Trump was hanging around too many teen pageants, going thru their dressing rooms,
interested in teens working at MAL, made too many comments about his daughter,
for me to think he is innocent.

And we know for fact he raped adult women and set them up.

Trump is a serious ruthless psychopath.
Everyone else is just a plaything for him.

AZJonnie

(2,838 posts)
15. Where do you see that Trump was specifically interested in teens working at Mar A Lago?
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 02:42 PM
Dec 20

We know he met Guiffre at MAL, but she said he was a gentleman.

Yes, he owned a Teen pageant, so presumably he "hung around", true.

Yes, he said he's "allowed" to go into the Miss USA (not Teen USA) dressing room if he wants to on Stern.

And yes for sure super-creepy shit about Ivanka, no argument there, and he's ABSOLUTELY a rapist of grown women.

So I readily stipulate there's ample reason to SUSPECT he raped kids, but no actual evidence, that's my point. And personally I think if Epstein had video of Trump raping kids, its *existence* would've been confirmed by now. I don't think Garland would've sat on such *proof positive* evidence of Trump doing something like that.

If he did, JFC!

Fact is, there's not even solid proof Epstein taped anyone raping kids. Not saying it therefore must not exist, just that there's no way (YET!) to be as certain as you're proclaiming to be

Irish_Dem

(79,884 posts)
16. This is not a court of law, it is the court of public opinion.
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 03:05 PM
Dec 20

I most certainly do not have to present a solid court case of evidence to give my opinion.
Like many, I can add 2 plus 2 and get 4.

I can also look at evidence and make educated high probability guesses based on a person's psych profile.

1. Trump was furious with Epstein for "stealing" some of his teen girl employees at MAL.
Since when does the CEO of a company give a damn about a towel girl at the hotel spa?
Why are Epstein and Trump fighting over a pretty blond teenager working at the spa??
A girl who becomes one of Epstein's trafficking victims.

2. Many reports exist that Trump went into the dressing rooms of naked teen pageant girls.
The girls have complained about it.

3. We have public knowledge of Trump raping adult women.

4. We have public knowledge of Trump making sexual comments about young girls.

5. We have tons of evidence that Trump and Epstein were good long term friends.
Epstein ran a child sex ring. Would you stay friends with someone like Epstein if you were innocent
and a good person?

6. Trump is a vicious, brutal psychopath who is dangerous. He fits the profile of a pedophile along with
the other facts.

In my opinion it is at least 75% probability that Trump is a pedophile.

AZJonnie

(2,838 posts)
17. Totally agree on the 75% level my friend :)
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 05:14 PM
Dec 20

And I was not meaning to sound like I was holding you to court-level proof, but you said "certainly" and I was confused how you could literally be certain. I see you meant it differently than I read it

As I've shared a few times here, I remain unconvinced of accuracy of the term "child sex ring" (based on actual evidence so far and what people would generally understand that term to mean), but leaving that aside as I've also shared many times, Trump at least knew he was (illegally) paying minors for sex with himself, I'm 95% sure of that. And said nothing at the time

The closest thing I know for sure of re: Trump making sexual comments about young girls was talking with Stern about his daughter, saying she was going to 'age out' when she was IIRC 17 y.o. Skeevy AF to be sure, but I don't know of other similar quotes. If you feel like sharing them, I'd certainly read them to educate myself further

IIRC also the whole bit about Trump supposedly being "furious" about Epstein pinching Guiffre from his employ came out recently, and to me smacked of CYA after the fact, and I don't particularly believe he was aware it happened at the time. However if he actually was, and he really was furious, that could theoretically be because he knew what Epstein was up to, and disapproved of Epstein's actions. But of course, that reading strongly suggests he knew WHY Maxwell recruited her, and we know he said nothing to authorities. So even with his CYA, he also implicated himself. Unless he's actually trying to put forward the idea he just really CARED about a towel girl at the club taking another "job", which is totally NOT believable

slightlv

(7,438 posts)
10. Not according to some of the "X" responses I read.
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 10:57 PM
Dec 19

Don't go there... you'll never find a shower hot enough to scrub off the "Yuk"...

FHRRK

(1,358 posts)
3. One correction, by unanimous vote the files have been renamed
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 08:26 PM
Dec 19

See link below: they are officially renamed to The Donald J. Trump Epstein Files.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220879546

calimary

(89,047 posts)
8. I'd really love to see that!
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 10:04 PM
Dec 19

Only problem is: if Pam Bondi is sent packing, what nightmare appointee will be given her job?

usonian

(23,589 posts)
9. The reason I say that is because one little slip like that gives away the entire game.
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 10:16 PM
Dec 19

It's exactly what they spent countless hours to hide, and every hidden tidbit has to be much worse.

Dulcinea

(9,676 posts)
11. She's probably been set up to take the fall when the shite hits the fan.
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 10:57 PM
Dec 19

The Fascist Felon will waltz away & leave her holding the bag...and the files.

usonian

(23,589 posts)
12. Trump betrays everyone close to him, or who trusts him, without fail ...
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 11:03 PM
Dec 19

Starting with his WIFE.

RoeVWade

(832 posts)
13. They were stupid to not be redacting them all this time. Now they get caught leaving too many traces to wrongdoing and
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 11:18 PM
Dec 19

frankly, I say HURRAH to that!!! I hope this shit gets even worse for them with even more questions.

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