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ThoughtCriminal

(14,706 posts)
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 11:41 AM Dec 19

Conservatives Have Been Having a 93-year long Hissy-Fit

It hasn't stopped since FDR and the New Deal and later, desegregation put them over the edge.

Trump is the tantrum personified.

It's humiliating that the country tolerates this.

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Conservatives Have Been Having a 93-year long Hissy-Fit (Original Post) ThoughtCriminal Dec 19 OP
Trump is the end result of 45 years of Limbaugh's brainwashing temper tantrum. Initech Dec 19 #1
Yes ... but you're giving Rush Limbaugh too much credit FakeNoose Dec 19 #17
Bingo! BaronChocula Dec 19 #22
Exactly. People act like MAGA happened overnight. Initech Dec 19 #24
At this point it's a self-sustaining fire BaronChocula Dec 19 #25
Started Rebl2 Dec 20 #35
The protest sign for the last rally that I made said: Initech Dec 20 #36
We had locally in NYC Bob Grant who was even more vicious that Rushbo. electric_blue68 Dec 19 #26
Old greedy white men who fear losing control of their thievery. NotHardly Dec 19 #2
Racists and bigots are afraid of being treated the same way they treated the people they hate. OMGWTF Dec 19 #23
Amplified by non-stop, pervasive right-wing radio and TV propaganda Mysterian Dec 19 #3
they bought the media so they can control the narrative yobrault1 Dec 19 #6
You must search for the truth but right-wing propaganda is everywhere Mysterian Dec 19 #13
This is absolutely spot on A HERETIC I AM Dec 19 #4
Good commentary AHIA popsdenver Dec 19 #7
Obama put them over the edge. yobrault1 Dec 19 #5
ding . this AllaN01Bear Dec 19 #9
My theory is that if Obama had not won a second term the conservatives could have chalked it up to a fluke. But... electric_blue68 Dec 19 #28
and theouster of nixon AllaN01Bear Dec 19 #8
Yup. Kid Berwyn Dec 19 #10
Thanks for the link to this past discussion. love_katz Dec 20 #32
Well put orangecrush Dec 19 #11
Yup blue-wave Dec 19 #12
I would Recommend this a thousand times if I could. What we are experiencing today absolutely has it's roots in the KPN Dec 19 #14
It's their default setting Warpy Dec 19 #15
This is one great thread by the way. KPN Dec 19 #16
What happened that far back? LiberalArkie Dec 19 #18
truth... they can all go fuck all the way off. They are the source of 99% our political problems LymphocyteLover Dec 19 #19
Yep. OldBaldy1701E Dec 19 #20
i'm reading Democracy Awakening barbtries Dec 19 #21
Re: AHIA comment...Here's a quote from Paul Weyrich Co-Found of The Heritage Foundation... electric_blue68 Dec 19 #27
As American as Apple Pie Cirsium Dec 19 #29
They long for the good old days when WASPs were in charge. Martin68 Dec 19 #30
The problem with the Republican party is that it's full of Republicans. love_katz Dec 20 #31
My wife's late grandmother used to go on rants to me about how horrible FDR was for... Ol Janx Spirit Dec 20 #33
More like a 160 year hissy fit lonely bird Dec 20 #34

Initech

(107,463 posts)
1. Trump is the end result of 45 years of Limbaugh's brainwashing temper tantrum.
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 11:44 AM
Dec 19

These turds shouldn't be celebrated in any way, they should be flushed from society.

FakeNoose

(40,223 posts)
17. Yes ... but you're giving Rush Limbaugh too much credit
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 01:58 PM
Dec 19

Ol' Rush was the paid mouthpiece of Richard Mellon Scaife. 'Memba him? He was a old-money ultra-conservative asshole who bought up radio, TV stations and newspapers to broadcast his message of hatred for the lower classes. (Also a lot of hatred for the liberals as well.)

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Mellon_Scaife

Rushie-boy did as he was told and he became exceedingly wealthy for it.

BaronChocula

(4,042 posts)
22. Bingo!
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 02:52 PM
Dec 19

The landscape of today's bitter conservatism is like an ugly skyline created by different twisted architects including Reagan and this Scaife creature mentioned above. But Limbaugh stands out as setting the standard for the depths of depravity that currently rules conservatism. The first Democratic president elected after Limbaugh's national syndication was Bill Clinton. I mark the tragic suicide of Vince Foster as the point at which conservatives habitually led scared, sheltered, whites down rabbit holes of conspiracy theories. What would have previously been dismissed as babblings of some rando crank, Limbaugh took to the national airwaves daily from 1993 up to his death preaching theories on how Foster was murdered by the Clintons, namely Hillary. And that was just the beginning.

The conservative media outlets and mouthpieces that flourished after Limbaugh (including Fox News) had to emulate his lack of character and integrity if they wanted to hone in on any segment of the conservative audience of which he was the rat king. Because of Limbaugh, the only facts that mattered to conservatives were the facts they want to believe. It also led the voices taken on by a.m. radio copycats dotting rural territory coast-to-coast.

Devoted republican voters today didn't get here without being ginned up into this frenzy of lies, anger and violence by Limbaugh. If it wasn't him, it may have been someone else, just as if there was no trump, maybe Sarah Palin would be president (not really though).

Initech

(107,463 posts)
24. Exactly. People act like MAGA happened overnight.
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 03:51 PM
Dec 19

But nope. It's been years, decades in the making. People like Rush Limbaugh and Jimmy Swaggart were the OGs of the kind of madness that the modern conservative party has been flinging for decades now. Many of the current people have been brainwashed by the previous generation.

Limbaugh / Swaggart brainwashed the Fox News generation. The Fox News generation brainwashed the Infowars generation. And who knows what the next generation after that will bring? I would like to think it stops here, but there are *ALWAYS* people like Rush Limbaugh, Alex Jones, Steve Bannon, and Rupert Murdoch around who profit off the lowest common denominator. ALWAYS.

BaronChocula

(4,042 posts)
25. At this point it's a self-sustaining fire
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 04:32 PM
Dec 19

All these soulless creeps give each other oxygen.

Rebl2

(17,416 posts)
35. Started
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 10:36 AM
Dec 20

when Reagan was in office. Remember the contract on America, at least that’s what I called it. Remember Gingrich and his gang? That was the beginning, but it wasn’t called maga .

Initech

(107,463 posts)
36. The protest sign for the last rally that I made said:
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 01:39 PM
Dec 20

"2025 America is 1939 Germany but with hats"

It's like the old Simpsons adage - the Trump administration is the same garbage, but with a new hat.

electric_blue68

(25,961 posts)
26. We had locally in NYC Bob Grant who was even more vicious that Rushbo.
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 05:41 PM
Dec 19

Limbaugh did live in NYC, then moved to Florida.
I don't know where Mike Savage broadcasted from.
All were despicable, horrid human beings!

I listened at times to keep an eye on them.

OMGWTF

(5,016 posts)
23. Racists and bigots are afraid of being treated the same way they treated the people they hate.
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 03:45 PM
Dec 19

They are PAB and need to evolve or go extinct.

Mysterian

(6,179 posts)
3. Amplified by non-stop, pervasive right-wing radio and TV propaganda
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 12:11 PM
Dec 19

convincing gullible Americans to support the puppets of the billionaires.

yobrault1

(197 posts)
6. they bought the media so they can control the narrative
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 12:28 PM
Dec 19

The difference between now and 1930s and 40s, is that we can get our news in a multitude of ways if you want to know the truth, you can find it. You just have to be willing to use your critical thinking skills and find out as much as you can on any subject the ones that choose not to do this or the ones that will be left behind and there will be a lot of them.

Mysterian

(6,179 posts)
13. You must search for the truth but right-wing propaganda is everywhere
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 01:16 PM
Dec 19

The mass media is controlled by right-wing billionaires.

https://www.freepress.net/who-owns-media

A HERETIC I AM

(24,847 posts)
4. This is absolutely spot on
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 12:20 PM
Dec 19

The proof that conservative political and economic ideology is not popular with the majority is that the last time we had what today would be considered a democratic socialist (FDR) as president, the American people elected him 4 times in a row.

What was the conservative reaction to that?

The 22nd amendment to the constitution.

The term “hissy fit” is apt, because the conservative powers that be realized that they couldn’t allow that to happen again.

Bernie Sanders nailed it almost 20 years ago when he said that if conservatives tried to run on the things that they actually do and promote, i.e. Lowering taxes for the wealthy, reducing social services, making life more difficult for the everyday American, etc. They would never win a single fucking election.

So what do they do instead? They make up bullshit arguments that don’t really affect peoples lives. Like abortion, guns, gay rights, a secular, science based education as being bad and of course, the latest bogeymen, transgender people and immigrants.


I’ve said this before. They know goddamn well they’re not popular. Their ideas suck and so the only way they can win elections, particularly national ones, is by cheating. That’s it.

It’s also why they’re so popular with poorly educated people, because those people are easily convinced that, as LBJ indicated, all they have to be is convinced that there’s a “lesser person” threatening their way of life, not only will they vote for you, they’ll let you pick their pockets

popsdenver

(1,571 posts)
7. Good commentary AHIA
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 12:46 PM
Dec 19

The Republicans and especially Corporations have LOATHED FDR forever. They were all in on the Great Depression that they had created to crush the 99%.

The Gilded Age and their Robber Barrons didn't succeed back then, so they did it all over again.

We now have a NEW expanded set of Republican Robber Barrons, and this time they are pulling all stops to succeed.....
We all will be reduced to fighting for our daily food, (Steinbecks GRAPES OF WRATH) and they will have succeeded.....

They are almost all the way there already folks.....AND..........
The Dems were walking down the jungle path, swatting at mosquitoes, and were oblivious to the herd of charging elephants...
(Pun Intended)

yobrault1

(197 posts)
5. Obama put them over the edge.
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 12:24 PM
Dec 19

His skin colour being in that office put them over the edge. If he had been anything but a straight white male, it would’ve put them over the edge. A woman, a person of colour even a person with disabilities would’ve put them over the edge. They are fucking evil. They want to destroy your country for their own greed and well-being. They don’t give a shit about any anybody who is not a straight white male. What they’re allowing to happen to the people in your country makes me wanna vomit.

electric_blue68

(25,961 posts)
28. My theory is that if Obama had not won a second term the conservatives could have chalked it up to a fluke. But...
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 06:00 PM
Dec 19
he winning a second term, drove them round the bend!

love_katz

(3,201 posts)
32. Thanks for the link to this past discussion.
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 01:49 AM
Dec 20

The comments on the old thread are worth reading.
Recommended.

orangecrush

(28,519 posts)
11. Well put
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 12:54 PM
Dec 19

It is the Businessmen's Plot.

It never died

It was exhumed by Reagan in the 80's and has been gaining ground steadily every since.

blue-wave

(4,825 posts)
12. Yup
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 01:12 PM
Dec 19

They called FDR every name in the book, including communist. In reality, FDR bailed their asses out by saving America and capitalism. They even tried to overthrow him but General Smedley Butler, who they attempted to recruit into their scheme, blew the whistle and the overthrow plan was foiled.

KPN

(17,146 posts)
14. I would Recommend this a thousand times if I could. What we are experiencing today absolutely has it's roots in the
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 01:25 PM
Dec 19

ultra-wealthy conservatives' reaction to FDR and his New Deal. Reagan gave things a huge boost by demonizing "government" as "the problem" and suggesting that good, hard working people were victimized by "welfare queens". Its been a steep, fast downhill from there.

Warpy

(114,398 posts)
15. It's their default setting
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 01:30 PM
Dec 19

Fuck 'em.

Best thing for them and this country is to drive them back into the welcoming arms of their nasty little churches. They'll be happier there, disgusted with earth and bucking for heaven. The country will be better off when they go back to bake sales and being obnoxious on Xmas.

LiberalArkie

(19,323 posts)
18. What happened that far back?
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 02:16 PM
Dec 19

The plot planned to install retired Major General Smedley Butler as dictator of the United States.
The Business Plot, also called the Wall Street Putsch[1] and the White House Putsch, was a political conspiracy in 1933 in the United States to overthrow the government of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and install Smedley Butler as dictator.[2][3] Butler, a retired Marine Corps major general, testified under oath that wealthy businessmen were plotting to create a fascist veterans' organization with him as its leader and use it in a coup d'état to overthrow Roosevelt. In 1934, Butler testified under oath before the United States House of Representatives Special Committee on Un-American Activities (the "McCormack–Dickstein Committee&quot on these revelations.[4] Although no one was prosecuted, the congressional committee final report said, "there is no question that these attempts were discussed, were planned, and might have been placed in execution when and if the financial backers deemed it expedient."

Early in the committee's gathering of testimony most major news media dismissed the plot, with a New York Times editorial characterizing it as a "gigantic hoax".[5] When the committee's final report was released, the Times said the committee "purported to report that a two-month investigation had convinced it that General Butler's story of a Fascist march on Washington was alarmingly true" and "... also alleged that definite proof had been found that the much publicized Fascist march on Washington, which was to have been led by Major Gen. Smedley D. Butler, retired, according to testimony at a hearing, was actually contemplated".[6] The individuals involved all denied the existence of a plot.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot

OldBaldy1701E

(10,225 posts)
20. Yep.
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 02:22 PM
Dec 19

As I have said, my very own grandmother called him 'that wild-eyed radical!'.

Some people just have no empathy or morals and we still allow them to think they are human.

Not sure why.

barbtries

(31,139 posts)
21. i'm reading Democracy Awakening
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 02:25 PM
Dec 19

by Heather Cox Richardson.

fucking republicans have been fucking with democracy since they called themselves Democrats.

https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/democracy-awakening-notes-on-the-state-of-america/38210544/?resultid=21803fc6-b6ca-4b38-8bcd-a3eaf57f3160#edition=66123373&idiq=62479698

a really good, concise history that's easy to read and well worth it.

electric_blue68

(25,961 posts)
27. Re: AHIA comment...Here's a quote from Paul Weyrich Co-Found of The Heritage Foundation...
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 05:55 PM
Dec 19

From a speech in 1980 to Evangelicals before Reagan spoke.
(my underline)

""Now many of our Christians have what I call the 'goo-goo' syndrome. Good Government. They want everybody to vote. I don't want everybody to vote. Our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down"

(I think Thom Hartmann when on Air America played this clip, which how Iblearned about it)

Cirsium

(3,381 posts)
29. As American as Apple Pie
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 07:34 PM
Dec 19

That tantrum has been going on since colonial days. "Why can't we have our slaves?" "Why can't we steal that land west of the Appalachians?" "Why can't we kill people who are in our way?" "Why can't we dominate and exploit the entire hemisphere?"

love_katz

(3,201 posts)
31. The problem with the Republican party is that it's full of Republicans.
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 01:38 AM
Dec 20

AKA bigoted fascists and misogynistic, brainwashed into believing that they have the right to dominate the world, and plunder and expropriate all wealth and power, while destroying the life support systems of our planet without regulations or hindrance of any kind.
For a shorter description: greedy people for whom cruelty is the point. They think that they will benefit and will escape any consequences.
There's a reason why people vote for, donate to, and support the greed and destruction enacted into law by the Pukes: they believe that their angry, jealous, vengeful and mean spirited God loves them, and only them.
We were shouting the truth about Rump and company, and their Project 2025 agenda, but we were ignored.
For now, we're forced to live with the horrors and destruction. The people we need to focus on are the deluded folks who stayed home and sat on their hands, or threw away their power to create changes by engaging in a protest vote.
We have the collective power to change the future, because there's more of us than there are of them. We don't have the corporate owned McGreedia in our pocket, but we can reach out to friends and family directly and through social media. We can support our local Democratic Party, which is in fact, the only party whose policies actually are closer to supporting our values. The Puke party surely does not, and anything which hands power to them ends up hurting everyone who isn't rich, male, heterosexual and Christofascist.
Our task is to convince enough of the 90 million who couldn't be bothered to vote that their non-action put us where we are now, and that we will all do better by supporting the party which supports more of our values.

Ol Janx Spirit

(737 posts)
33. My wife's late grandmother used to go on rants to me about how horrible FDR was for...
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 10:10 AM
Dec 20

...America, and I used to just think, 'what is wrong with you old lady?'

She was the first person that really introduced me to the conservative brain worm. She absolutely hated the New Deal. Otherwise she seemed nice and very normal.

It was my own grandmother that hated desegregation. I learned from her that you actually don't have to love just anyone that you are related to--unfortunately.

It wasn't until the ACA and the TEA Party that I really realized how deeply damaged conservatives were.

It has been a downward spiral from there. I've given up there being an actual bottom to this rabbit hole. It feels more like a black hole threatening to spaghettify and tear apart both our democracy and the way of life it has provided.

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