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https://apnews.com/article/jack-smith-congress-justice-department-d35557d525fcfe51a20d08c6abb7f71dJack Smith tells lawmakers his team developed proof beyond a reasonable doubt against Trump
By ERIC TUCKER and LISA MASCARO
Updated 9:51 AM CST, December 17, 2025
WASHINGTON (AP) Former Justice Department special counsel Jack Smith told lawmakers in a closed-door interview on Wednesday that his team of investigators developed proof beyond a reasonable doubt that President Donald Trump had criminally conspired to overturn the results of the 2020 election, according to portions of his opening statement obtained by The Associated Press.
He also said investigators had accrued powerful evidence that Trump broke the law by hoarding classified documents from his first term as president at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Florida, and by obstructing government efforts to recover the records.
I made my decisions in the investigation without regard to President Trumps political association, activities, beliefs, or candidacy in the 2024 election, Smith said. We took actions based on what the facts and the law required the very lesson I learned early in my career as a prosecutor.
He said that if asked whether he would prosecute a former president based on the same facts today, I would do so regardless of whether the president was a Republican or Democrat.
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FalloutShelter
(14,124 posts)Blues Heron
(8,219 posts)NCDem47
(3,305 posts)ScratchCat
(2,664 posts)By Monday morning at the absolute latest, Jordan will make a criminal referral to the DOJ for perjury. 100% chance. DOJ will find someone who will lie to a grand jury and obtain an indictment for perjury. They already decided this up-front months ago. This is just a charade to use to make their criminal referral that Trump has already demanded for Jack Smith.
NoMoreRepugs
(11,776 posts)what could happen during discovery.
Seinan Sensei
(1,318 posts)The same Jim Jordan, who once was issued a lawful subpoena, in May 2023?
Compliance for thee, but not for me
Wiz Imp
(8,661 posts)I understand being skeptical, but you're far into conspiratorial nonsense with no evidence. There is ZERO chance of Jack Smith ever being indicted.
That in itself would mean he has full access to his second report. They do not want that. (This is not a good time for weakness posts about worst case scenarios. One grows tired of Chicken Littles saying that the sky is falling.)
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,078 posts)Or Letitia James.
Piggy is not omnipotent.
orangecrush
(28,027 posts)H2O Man
(78,495 posts)C_U_L8R
(48,777 posts)And these republicans need to ask themselves
what side they want to be on.
calimary
(88,829 posts)Let it be a lesson and a cautionary tale!
Irish_Dem
(79,235 posts)Sure, Jan.
SergeStorms
(19,902 posts)they're going to be able to trip Smith up and admit to illegal or biased treatment of The Big Orange Pig 🐖.
They don't know Jack!
Uncle Joe
(64,055 posts)Thanks for the thread dalton
AllaN01Bear
(28,444 posts)Faux pas
(16,051 posts)us any good now????????????????
Fil1957
(486 posts)JT45242
(3,808 posts)I hope he quoted the agents who said that literally anyone else would have been arrested and locked up immediately.
That level of espionage is literally hundreds of years of sentences and hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines just on the sheer volume of highly sensitive classified materials. Add on the obstruction and Mango Mussolini and all his underlings should be in some supermax for treasonous weasels.
Justice matters.
(9,260 posts)5 years inside for just 1 page...
Kid Berwyn
(22,692 posts)
Barbarians at the Gates of Democracy
A mob of domestic terrorists were directed by the President of the United States to Congress in order to stop the counting of the vote by the People. In effect, the executive branch attacked the legislative branch. Donald J Trump is a traitor.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214835602
malaise
(292,097 posts)Since Jan 6 2021
Jean-Luc
(2 posts)Is it Jack Smith? The FBI? I'm concerned it may be destroyed if it is in the wrong hands.
617Blue
(2,187 posts)Callie1979
(1,080 posts)THAT is what I really want to know.
kimbutgar
(26,651 posts)malaise
(292,097 posts)destroys this giant meanstalk scumbag
malthaussen
(18,366 posts)... he's a prosecutor, they don't bring cases unless they think they can win. Whether a jury of randomly-selected Americans would agree that his case was proved beyond a reasonable doubt was never put to the test.
-- Mal