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tblue37

(68,140 posts) Wed Dec 17, 2025, 10:41 AM Dec 17

Trump said the other day, "why can't there be 25% GDP growth?"

QUINTANILLA: The president said the other day "why can't there be 25% GDP growth." What is the street supposed to do with that kind of number?

HASSETT: Heh heh heh. As an abstract thought, I don't know what the highest growth ever is, but I doubt it made it to 20%
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-12-16T14:25:07.615Z

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Trump said the other day, "why can't there be 25% GDP growth?" (Original Post) tblue37 Dec 17 OP

Cause you're in charge n/t Alpeduez21 Dec 17 #1

"The **highest **annual real GDP growth in U.S. history since at least the 1960s was about 7.2 % in 1984." tblue37 Dec 17 #2

Smirky McSmirkface. tblue37 Dec 17 #3

growth, measured in dollars rampartd Dec 17 #4

Piece of shit is supposed to have a degree in economics dalton99a Dec 17 #5

Economies grow when most of the population thrives Attilatheblond Dec 17 #6

Wealthy dont spend fast nor local IbogaProject Dec 17 #7

There Can Be 25% GDP Growth ProfessorGAC Dec 17 #8

MaddowBlog-Raising the economic bar far too high, Trump and his team set themselves up for failure LetMyPeopleVote Dec 17 #9

Alpeduez21

(2,008 posts)

1. Cause you're in charge n/t

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Wed Dec 17, 2025, 10:45 AM

Dec 17

tblue37

(68,140 posts)

2. "The **highest **annual real GDP growth in U.S. history since at least the 1960s was about 7.2 % in 1984."

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Wed Dec 17, 2025, 10:48 AM

Dec 17

tblue37

(68,140 posts)

3. Smirky McSmirkface.

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Wed Dec 17, 2025, 10:49 AM

Dec 17

rampartd

(3,749 posts)

4. growth, measured in dollars

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Wed Dec 17, 2025, 10:49 AM

Dec 17

could easily get astronomical IF inflation were at late confederacy levels but the decreased dollars are not reflected in the gdp (as in, the books being cooked by a master chef.)

this is why trump hates the federal reserve, and why the supremes will let him..

dalton99a

(92,051 posts)

5. Piece of shit is supposed to have a degree in economics

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Wed Dec 17, 2025, 10:49 AM

Dec 17

Attilatheblond

(8,267 posts)

6. Economies grow when most of the population thrives

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Wed Dec 17, 2025, 10:53 AM

Dec 17

GOP policies, and in particular those of Trump who has many big donors to pay back for keeping him out of jail via the Netanyahu strategy, will not allow most of the population to survive let alone thrive.

Shifting the financial resources of a nation into very few hands will NEVER increase GPD long term. One would think a stable genius and business school whiz kid would know that.

IbogaProject

(5,608 posts)

7. Wealthy dont spend fast nor local

Reply to Attilatheblond (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 17, 2025, 03:42 PM

Dec 17

As wealthy people can't spend their money fast and locally the way wage earners do. The wealthy often just shuffle their money in their insular circle exchanging frivolous items like fine art, extra homes and the like. And they often spend much more slowly compared to paycheck to paycheck local.

ProfessorGAC

(75,838 posts)

8. There Can Be 25% GDP Growth

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Wed Dec 17, 2025, 04:58 PM

Dec 17

Let hyperinflation trigger, and for one week GDP growth will be 25%.
Geez, that sounds like a plan they'd actually come up with!

LetMyPeopleVote

(174,788 posts)

9. MaddowBlog-Raising the economic bar far too high, Trump and his team set themselves up for failure

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Wed Dec 17, 2025, 05:52 PM

Dec 17

It’s widely understood that officials should under-promise and over-deliver. On economic growth, the White House has got it backward.

Interestingly enough, the highest GDP on record came in 1942, when domestic production roared at the start of World War II, and growth reached nearly 19%.

Trump suggested last week that he could top that â€” because he doesnâ€™t know anything about economic policy: tinyurl.com/2uzdsfk7
— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-12-16T14:54:17.591Z

https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/raising-the-economic-bar-far-too-high-trump-and-his-team-set-themselves-up-for-failure

Having failed to meet these unrealistic goals previously, Trump and his team have learned their lesson.

No, I’m just kidding. They’ve learned nothing and are making the exact same mistakes.

Lutnick: "I think under President Trump you're gonna see the economy grow 6%"
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-12-11T13:22:44.764Z

On Thursday morning, Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick predicted that annual GDP growth in Trump’s second term is likely to reach 6% — a line he’s pushed more than once in recent weeks.

As a rule, officials recognize the importance of under-promising and over-delivering, especially after having already failed. But Lutnick went there anyway.

A day earlier, at a White House event, his boss went considerably further.

Trump says he doesn't know why America can't achieve 25 percent annual economic growth
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-12-10T20:32:26.617Z

......Just as importantly, as a political matter, he has a reason not to raise expectations like this. If, for example, the U.S. had 3% GDP growth every year during his second term, that would be evidence of a healthy economy. But according to Trump and his team, it would also deserve to be seen as a disappointment, since Lutnick is pointing to 6% growth, while the president himself pitches 20% to 25% growth.

There is such a thing as expectation management. These guys are flunking it in embarrassing fashion.

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