Money.

Social Security is Money we've Earned over the Decades. There better Not be a ny damn "cuts".

it’s inaccurate, either.

when they retire.

It will be there as long as we have the will to fund it.

Tax the rich.

Easy

You have to hand it to the repubs. They're masters at marketing. Or maybe it's just that the dems are so goddamned bad at it. IDK, but they've very successfully convinced middle & working class Americans that paying taxes is the problem, not that the rich don't pay more. IMO, money earned from labor should have the lowest tax rate of all, since it's a direct exchange of your life's time for money. Investment income should be taxed the most cuz it's your money working for you.

Years ago, I worked for a very rich man. One year his accountant called & I was going to send his call through, but he said, "No, just Tell him the check needs to be for $1.2 million." LOL. His income taxes. When I told my boss, he grimaced a bit, but then smiled & said, "Sounds bad, I know, but do you know how much I made to get a tax bill like this?" He was one of the most generous bosses I worked for, & when the CFO wanted to start pre-employment drug testing, he said, "No. We deal with individual issues if we have them."

There was a meme going around recently, about all the money the billionaires have donated to some fund, the stupid ballroom probably, & the text was: When they donate more than what a tax increase would cost them, you know what it's really about.

Such horse shit.

They are overpaid as it is with gold card healthcare to boot.

as federal civil servants under FEHB. While you can pick a very good plan (enrollees all pay about 25% of the premium), choices range from HSAs to basic plans very similar to medicare part B to very good plans. In fact the ACA is actually based on FEHB.

PeaceWave, I’m not saying that this isn’t an interesting development and I’m glad you made this post. I just have a few thoughts.
This is aimed at MSN and other news sources assumptions about the meaning of poll results. There is no argument for their headline and conclusion for the poll results. Nowhere did Gallup mention making cuts to Social Security and Medicare, only making significant changes to them. Their conclusion is in no way logically implied by Republican responses to their poll.

Should we reduce debt by “Making significant changes to the Social Security and Medicare programs to reduce their cost.”

You can argue that this necessarily means cuts in Social Security and Medicare, but this isn’t how a large number of people will understand it. Many will think that they can get the same benefits while saving the Federal government money through Republican Magic. Maybe they believe it will be by taking all the dead or undocumented off the rolls?Maybe, a few less people believe in Republican Magic than in the first two weeeks of September?

Earlier Gallup asked if voters would favor “Cutting spending for programs other than defense, Social Security and Medicare.” 72% of R said yes. Only 13% favored defense spending alone. Gallup could have asked if the respondents if they favored “cuts” in Social Security and Medicare rather than “significant changes”. They also could have done so when asking about Medicaid and food assistance (see in link below), but they didn’t. This would have given us a clearer idea of where the voters’ opinions lie. There are many who have been sold the idea that it’s Democratic Party ideas an inefficiencies that cause our deficits and are pretty sure that significant changes from the R party can reduce debt while maintaining the benefits they rely on. This failure of understanding is easy to see if you see the republican response to tax revenues. Increase taxes on rich-36% in favor. Increase revenue by making major changes to tax code-48%. I’m guessing the Republican respondents are not more in favor of increasing taxes on themselves over upper-income Americans, but here we are.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/696416/americans-favor-spending-cuts-taxes-cut-deficit.aspx

"Earlier Gallup asked if voters would favor 'Cutting spending for programs other than defense, Social Security and Medicare.' 72% of R said yes. Only 13% favored defense spending alone. Gallup could have asked if the respondents if they favored 'cuts' in Social Security and Medicare rather than 'significant changes'.”

Yeah, I'm wary of the wording, too.

Big increases? I fucking know better than that. So do you.

This is illuminating.

Yes, it's a problem that many Republicans (and even some Democrats) would choose reducing benefits to increasing taxes on the wealthy. However, in this forced choice survey question, many more respondents chose other options instead of "making significant changes to Medicare and Social Security."

The wording of the Medicare/SS option makes the answers a little ambiguous, too. "Making changes" is not the same as "cutting spending," which was the wording in another option.

Overall, the option "Making changes to Medicare/SS" was the least favorite option among respondents, trailing way behind the other options.

I don't believe that this poll indicates that most Americans - including most Republicans - would support cuts to Medicare and SS. I think it is more reflective of many Republicans' belief in "government waste" that can somehow be eliminated through magical "changes" and their desperate support for defense spending and low taxes at any cost. I also see the Republican belief in the tariff magical thinking there.

I’ve paid into social security for 40 years, that money is mine! Republicans are truly heartless and stupid. 🤬

The viability of Medicare and Social Security is directly linked to immigration

For one, the type of ‘real Americans’ the goo prefers aren’t reproducing fast enough to fill out future generations. We need to supplement from the outside to provide a tax base big enough and with enough growth to support the commitments. I have never been a big fan of any economic solution that demands perpetual growth to work but that is what we have.

Second, it’s the immigrants that are the biggest contributors to senior care. From nurses to home care workers to nursing homes they are doing the heavy lifting in elder care. Without them, costs are going to skyrocket.

If the conservatives have their way, they will create a country that is too small, too old and too poor to function.

It is like an Atlas Shrugged for the masses where they think they can live in a closed society without the people they need to care for them.

Him for doing nothing!!!

But that 18% of of elected Democrats support that makes me wonder who the fuck are those democrats and how soon can we kick them to the curb?

It was a poll of everyday average Joes and Janes off the street.

to think we just can't afford SS and Medicare. The years of propaganda have worked.

Part of it is that the media sucks, but Democrats need to emphasize the national debt largely got out of control due to legalized bribery the campaign finance system.

That the GOP would rather billionaires NOT pay their fair share than having seniors not starve. It's that simple. Of course, when they realize that the Leopard will eat THEIR face, we'll see them being shocked. SHOCKED I tell you.

They poll? Rich republicans? I guarantee it isn’t middle or lower income folks wanting these cuts. We are dependent on it. For some seniors, social security and small savings is all they have and they only have Medicare for health insurance.

Gross Income should be subjected to FICA taxes for those grossing $5 million or more annually than to those grossing $50,000 annually. That means the very wealthy pay into the systems at the same percentage rate as a Middle Class worker.

Bur Republicans are OPPOSED to that as well. Which is why we need Democrats in the majority in both Houses.

They don't see it there for them. Even if they turn SS into something like 401k plans (so they can force us into the market), how do you contribute in today's gig economy? Does Lyft take out taxes? Door Dash? All the third party delivery services? If you don't have a standard 40-hour a week job, how much gets contributed into your SS account?