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PeaceWave

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Mon Dec 15, 2025, 09:15 PM Dec 15

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"hatred of the environment" -- a bizarre attitude, to be sure Pinback Dec 15 #1
This just furthers my theory that Trump literally ruins everything. Initech Dec 15 #2
Ford couldn't even sell Greg_In_SF Dec 15 #3

Pinback

(13,505 posts)
1. "hatred of the environment" -- a bizarre attitude, to be sure
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 09:19 PM
Dec 15

…because “the environment” is, you know, like where we all live.

The Right’s misanthropy and yearning for the “End Times” threaten the population of the entire planet.

On edit: I’ve been researching cars off and on for months — sticking with my 13-year-old ride for now, but when the time comes, my next vehicle will definitely be an EV or a hybrid (hopefully a plug-in hybrid if I can get one with the right mix of features and affordability).

I have a friend who owns an F-150 Lightning. Amazing vehicle. He lives in a remote area and can use the truck battery to power the house in case of an extended electrical outage. Great features like 360-degree camera view when parking, excellent audio system, and very effective heating and air. And it’s a monster for hauling heavy stuff or driving through rough terrain.

So of course it must be killed, because Trump is about ruining everything decent, to the benefit of the Epstein Class.

Initech

(107,460 posts)
2. This just furthers my theory that Trump literally ruins everything.
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 09:24 PM
Dec 15

We have got to knock him off his pedestal.

Greg_In_SF

(888 posts)
3. Ford couldn't even sell
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 09:36 PM
Dec 15

26,000 Lightnings this year. And, a "sale" is when Ford sells a vehicle to a dealer, not when a dealer sells a vehicle to the consumer. Dealer lots are FULL of $70,000 Lightnings so they probably actually sold way less than 20,000.

In contrast, Ford sold 620,000 gas powered F150 trucks in 2025.

This has nothing to do with the environment.

People simply don't want to buy these trucks because they absolutely suck.

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