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Miles Archer

(21,361 posts)
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 12:30 AM 20 hrs ago

"NO...WIRE...HANGERS!" When it comes to parenting, it's a fine line between Fred Trump and Joan Crawford.

It shocks me that Fred Trump so thoroughly ruined his son Donald.

Specifically, that the cardinal sin is weakness...and, as defined by Fred Trump, that means if you are ill, you can never admit it, and if you lose, there's nothing worse you can ever do in your life, and you can't admit that either.

It's why, after Trump returned to the White House after being treated for COVID, he "wanted to" rip open his shirt to reveal a Superman "S" underneath (and was talked out of it).

It's why, 1,867 days after the 2020 election, Trump is "promising" to release "truckloads of information" that "prove" it was "rigged."

All because of one evil bastard who should have kept it in his pants.

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"NO...WIRE...HANGERS!" When it comes to parenting, it's a fine line between Fred Trump and Joan Crawford. (Original Post) Miles Archer 20 hrs ago OP
One of my protest signs has a real wire hanger... BigmanPigman 19 hrs ago #1
Trump acted as an agent of his father to attack and to destroy his older brother, Fred Jr. no_hypocrisy 14 hrs ago #2
As someone who paid very little attention to Donald Trump or his family, tanyev 11 hrs ago #3
I'd like to add to your commentary that no_hypocrisy 10 hrs ago #4
That's interesting about Don Jr. tanyev 8 hrs ago #5

BigmanPigman

(54,483 posts)
1. One of my protest signs has a real wire hanger...
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 01:24 AM
19 hrs ago

Attached to a red circle with a red slash through it at a pro-choice rally. The Women's March people wanted me to donate to the Women's Museum.

I wish tRump's mother used a wire hanger to keep her spawn from ever being born.

no_hypocrisy

(54,063 posts)
2. Trump acted as an agent of his father to attack and to destroy his older brother, Fred Jr.
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 05:51 AM
14 hrs ago

(Mary Trump's father).

Fred Jr. was not at all like his father. He was sensitive and creative. His father wanted him to be a "killer" and to take over his business. Fred tried it for a little while and realized that he couldn't do it. And he chose another career, totally apart from the business and interests of his father.

And that could have been the end of it.

But his younger brother, Donald, wanted the position of heir to the business and to the family. And he decided to help to destroy Fred. Maybe it was just that; maybe he wanted to ensure that Fred didn't change his mind and reclaim his position. Maybe he did it to please his/their father.

Between Fred Sr. and Donald, they emotionally and psychologically destroyed Fred Jr. More or less exiled him from the family. And he turned to alcohol for solace, which inevitably killed him. I'll always maintained that alcohol was the secondary cause of death. The primary cause was Donald and his father.

tanyev

(48,523 posts)
3. As someone who paid very little attention to Donald Trump or his family,
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 09:17 AM
11 hrs ago

there was a small window of time after he first hit the campaign trail where I assumed his children were more in touch with modern realities than the weird asshole already spouting mean-spirited nonsense at every rally. I wondered why none of them had told Daddy to stuff it and gone off to make their own way in life.

Of course, it soon became evident that they were all in on Daddy’s schemes and plots. If any of them ever dreamed of getting out (doubtful), they certainly realized what Donald would have done to them if they tried.

no_hypocrisy

(54,063 posts)
4. I'd like to add to your commentary that
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 09:59 AM
10 hrs ago

Don Jr. made a feeble attempt to separate himself from his father. He moved out West and was a bartender for maybe a year. He returned to his father and joined the Trump Organization. Maybe his mother, Ivana, warned him of his father's wrath, being cut off from funds and lucrative business opportunities, and/or maybe plain revenge to destroy him. But return he did.

Ivanka was Daddy's Girl from the get-go. He paid for her new face and tits. He welcomed her into the Trump Organization and made her recognizable. While it appears that she separated from her father by leaving the WH and not returning and moving to Florida with her family, she has her husband, Jared Kushner, to be her surrogate. No chance of Ivanka being cut out of the Will.

Eric. Knew what side of the bread was buttered. Both he and his wife, Lara, have played the dutiful children of Trump. And you can see the transference of corruption in both of them.

tanyev

(48,523 posts)
5. That's interesting about Don Jr.
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 11:52 AM
8 hrs ago

Because I’ve read he was heavily involved in the outreach to rural Western voters—a demographic not naturally attracted to a gilded braggart from Manhattan.

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