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Miles Archer

(21,360 posts)
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 09:42 AM Yesterday

Musk & DOGE SH*T "made the world sicker, poorer and more miserable. And it was all for nothing"

Elon Musk thinks DOGE wasn’t worth it — hundreds of thousands of dead people agree
The MAGA tech billionaire says he wouldn’t work on something like the Department of Government Efficiency. It’s a shame that he ever did.

https://www.ms.now/opinion/elon-musk-doge-deadly-legacy

Members of DOGE with no government or foreign aid experience — such as 23-year-old computer programmer Luke Farritor or 19-year-old Edward Coristine, who went by “Big Balls” — were responsible for investigating USAID staff for evidence of “insubordination.” This allegation was then weaponized to destroy the entire agency. Musk declared: “USAID is a criminal organization. Time for it to die.” The following day, Musk said Trump had given him the authority to feed the agency into the woodchipper.

What a difference a few months can make. Musk has gone from swinging his chainsaw around at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), siccing his DOGE goons on career civil servants and bragging about his power to crush entire agencies to meekly arguing that he was a “little bit successful.”

But DOGE hasn’t just been exposed as a fiasco — it somehow accomplished the twin feats of utterly failing to reduce government spending in any meaningful sense and causing a global calamity at the same time.

DOGE will forever be a cautionary tale: This is what happened when messianic tech oligarchs and political neophytes were temporarily handed the reins of government. They didn’t just fail — they destroyed one of the U.S.’ most important organs of soft power. They made the world sicker, poorer and more miserable. And it was all for nothing.

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Musk & DOGE SH*T "made the world sicker, poorer and more miserable. And it was all for nothing" (Original Post) Miles Archer Yesterday OP
Well, it did advance Project 2025 Kid Berwyn Yesterday #1
His two major "accomplishment," neither of which were part of the rationale that empowered him Miles Archer Yesterday #2
major accomplishment , and he succeeded, was "shock and awe" rampartd Yesterday #8
All of this is EXACTLY what happens..... popsdenver Yesterday #35
The Heritage Foundation can go shove Project 2025 where it doesn't shine. Initech 23 hrs ago #43
Along with popsdenver 2 hrs ago #51
And every single employee at Fox News too. Initech 1 hr ago #52
Can the States sue him for the loss of revenue due to his incompetence? Baitball Blogger Yesterday #3
I don't know what can be done, or how "effectively" Republicans can block those efforts Miles Archer Yesterday #5
A lot is riding on the 2026 midterms. Baitball Blogger Yesterday #13
It's a 2-parteer. Miles Archer Yesterday #16
It was for something, to line the pockets of the oligarchs, they needed a tax cut. Uncle Joe Yesterday #4
That's simply what fascist billionaires do. paleotn Yesterday #6
In other words for them it was a success. The media need to stop pretending the intentions are good. Blues Heron Yesterday #7
Musk didn't like USAID because he is an Afrikaner from South Africa who was taught from his childhood... Botany Yesterday #9
I got spanked on DU the other day for referring to Musk as an Afrikaner Miles Archer Yesterday #11
I think you misspelled it, Miles UpInArms Yesterday #30
Anyone associated with DOGE liberalgunwilltravel Yesterday #10
2.3 trillion in debt in year one Johonny Yesterday #12
The asshole single-handedly dismantled large parts of our government for shits and grins dalton99a Yesterday #14
There is a one element central to the pathology of Trump, Musk, and everyone like them Miles Archer Yesterday #17
+1 dalton99a Yesterday #19
"They made the world sicker, poorer and more miserable. And it was all for nothing." MLWR Yesterday #15
It was all for UpInArms Yesterday #31
He should pay for the damage out of his own pocket IronLionZion Yesterday #18
DOGE Misdeeds gfarber Yesterday #20
Well that's the main goal jfz9580m Yesterday #21
Trump does these things "because I can" Seinan Sensei Yesterday #27
Spot on duckworth969 Yesterday #38
Our revenge: Don't buy anything TESLA Auggie Yesterday #22
ALL of this malicious destruction... GiqueCee Yesterday #23
DOGE is not a cautionary tale. kacekwl Yesterday #24
I will forever hate Musk for the damage he did to our country. CaptainTruth Yesterday #25
It was NOT all for nothing. Musk got all the data and back doors to the US Govt. Irish_Dem Yesterday #26
This not efficiency, this a crime spree. yellow dahlia Yesterday #28
Author is Matt Johnson. Nt spooky3 Yesterday #29
Musk & DOGE need indicted for identiy theft and violations of the HIPAA of millions of Americans. Hotler Yesterday #32
Yes, Please. BurnDoubt 17 hrs ago #47
--- reminds me of a PBS documentary about 40 years ago. Chairman Mao came into power. 3Hotdogs Yesterday #33
Lived in Shandong Province duckworth969 Yesterday #39
China has a pretty dead ecosystem. Any wildlife gets eaten IronLionZion Yesterday #41
And a lot of us haven't found new jobs yet. milestogo Yesterday #34
"DOGE will forever be a cautionary tale..." J_William_Ryan Yesterday #36
Why does he get a pass? purr-rat beauty Yesterday #37
Yeah! Scott Alan Swaggerty 15 hrs ago #50
And they want to make this fuck a trillionaire Blue Owl Yesterday #40
Which is why he should be third in line for the docket. OldBaldy1701E 23 hrs ago #42
It wasn't for nothing. Wednesdays 22 hrs ago #44
All for nothing. Just like Mussolini did, and Hitler too. Justice matters. 17 hrs ago #45
Not For Nothing... BurnDoubt 17 hrs ago #46
This POS cost me my job when DOGE got rid of my employers Jspur 15 hrs ago #48
K&R Scott Alan Swaggerty 15 hrs ago #49

Kid Berwyn

(22,613 posts)
1. Well, it did advance Project 2025
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 09:45 AM
Yesterday

Soon-to-be trillionaire and purebred NAZI Musk helped the planet’s rich destroy much of the strongest remaining obstacle to their greed — the US civil service.

Miles Archer

(21,360 posts)
2. His two major "accomplishment," neither of which were part of the rationale that empowered him
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 09:50 AM
Yesterday

1). He messed up agencies that had the regulatory authority to investigate his businesses

2). He "helped himself" to whatever data existed in the government databases and made a copy for himself...Social Security numbers, banking info, etc.

3).AND, because he sees Social Security as part of "the woke mind virus," he screwed up that agency so horribly that people can no longer get the help and assistance they need in a timely manner, whether it's in person or online or on the phone.

There are probably more, all unrelated to the lie about "cost savings." Those are the three big ones.

rampartd

(3,443 posts)
8. major accomplishment , and he succeeded, was "shock and awe"
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 10:08 AM
Yesterday

on trump's behalf, musk convinced me that trump had the will, and the power, to take down the usa and install a soviet republic.

those social security numbers and such give him the power to bankrupt anyone/.org who opposes him.

popsdenver

(1,366 posts)
35. All of this is EXACTLY what happens.....
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 12:48 PM
Yesterday

.........when you put a bunch of monkeys in a room, with bushel baskets of hand grenades, and lock the door....

except, in this case, the monkeys all figured out how to pull the pins and throw them.........

Initech

(107,159 posts)
43. The Heritage Foundation can go shove Project 2025 where it doesn't shine.
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 05:46 PM
23 hrs ago

If we ever get out of this, every single employee of that wretched organization needs to be dragged out in handcuffs.

popsdenver

(1,366 posts)
51. Along with
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 03:08 PM
2 hrs ago

All the Republican Senators, Republican House Members, Republican USSC Justices, Trump's cabinet, advisors, Republican Governors......Basically his entire Republican CABAL ......

Trump wouldn't have lasted one week after his January 2016 installation if they hadn't all been behind him 100%

Initech

(107,159 posts)
52. And every single employee at Fox News too.
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 03:54 PM
1 hr ago

Trump wouldn't exist without them, they need to be held accountable too.

Miles Archer

(21,360 posts)
5. I don't know what can be done, or how "effectively" Republicans can block those efforts
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 09:59 AM
Yesterday

Two questions I'd want answered:

1). Trump's comments on Musk and the "vote-counting computers." What exactly, specifically, is he referring to?

"He knows those computers better than anybody. All those computers. Those vote-counting computers," Trump told the crowd. "And we ended up winning Pennsylvania like in a landslide."

2). What exactly did Musk do with the data he "scraped" from government databases? And if he SOLD any of it, he belongs in a prison cell.

Baitball Blogger

(51,598 posts)
13. A lot is riding on the 2026 midterms.
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 10:44 AM
Yesterday

We'll have the ability to control the direction of the investigations if Democrats take over.

Miles Archer

(21,360 posts)
16. It's a 2-parteer.
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 10:59 AM
Yesterday

1). We have to pick up the seats, and

2). Democrats somehow have to become comfortable with dealing with Republicans as aggressively as they deal with Democrats.

REMEMBER THE "BIDEN IMPEACHMENTS?" They really got those across the finish line, didn't they?

But they DON'T CARE. It's all "performance art" for an audience of ONE.

You might have seen the thread I posted on Bennie Thompson questioning Kristi Noem. If not, here's a PBS recap:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-rep-thompson-calls-on-noem-to-resign-for-making-america-less-safe

THIS is how we have to deal with REPUBLICANS, when we hold the actual power to see that justice is served. THIS is how to COMMUNICATE with them. No drama, no theatrics, Dems need to listen and watch and learn from Bennie.

Uncle Joe

(64,005 posts)
4. It was for something, to line the pockets of the oligarchs, they needed a tax cut.
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 09:58 AM
Yesterday

Inflation has caused private jets prices to skyrocket.

Thanks for the thread Miles Archer

Blues Heron

(8,186 posts)
7. In other words for them it was a success. The media need to stop pretending the intentions are good.
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 10:08 AM
Yesterday

Botany

(76,159 posts)
9. Musk didn't like USAID because he is an Afrikaner from South Africa who was taught from his childhood...
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 10:16 AM
Yesterday

… that black people especially the ones in Africa are inferior to white people and the enemy of
“what is good” about his world. The cuts to USAID has already caused at least a million deaths
in Africa. And Trump sees the world in the same sick racist way too.

(Bill) Gates on Musk: ‘World’s richest man killing the world’s poorest children.’



Miles Archer

(21,360 posts)
11. I got spanked on DU the other day for referring to Musk as an Afrikaner
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 10:26 AM
Yesterday

I didn't care, didn't reply.

He may not have a card in his walled stamped in bold red letters saying "I AM AN AFRIKANER," but in terms of their "belief system," he'll always be an Afrikaner to me.

Johonny

(25,226 posts)
12. 2.3 trillion in debt in year one
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 10:39 AM
Yesterday

Doge stole from the poor and gave to the rich. Thanks GOP voters, you assholes.

Miles Archer

(21,360 posts)
17. There is a one element central to the pathology of Trump, Musk, and everyone like them
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 11:02 AM
Yesterday

"I did it BECAUSE I CAN."

I saw a quote yesterday from Trump, who...before he demolished the East Wing...claimed he was told "SIR, you're the president, you can do anything you want with the White House."

It's always a "WHO'S GOING TO STOP ME" thing, and because Trump gave Musk a green light, no one was going to stop him until he got what he wanted.

MLWR

(734 posts)
15. "They made the world sicker, poorer and more miserable. And it was all for nothing."
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 10:46 AM
Yesterday

And this doesn't even mention the cost of that incredibly stupid and illegal endeaver to US, THE TAXPAYERS. They should ALL be sued into oblivion.

UpInArms

(53,897 posts)
31. It was all for
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 12:32 PM
Yesterday

Power, disruption and the following chaos, in which they enrich themselves even more

gfarber

(179 posts)
20. DOGE Misdeeds
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 11:33 AM
Yesterday


There once was a tycoon named Musk
Who decided that DOGE was a must.
With bravado and cheer,
He cried, “Chop it right here!”
Till regret left his vision quite husk.

Young coders with scarcely a clue
Were tasked with what nations must do.
They hunted “misdeeds,”
From their swivel chairs’ leads,
And called civil servants untrue.

A lad nicknamed “Big Balls,” nineteen,
Played watchdog for things unforeseen.
With no aid or state skill,
He accused with a will,
Then watched as an agency screamed.

“USAID’s criminal,” he lied,
“Feed it straight to the chipper,” he cried.
With a tweet and a grin,
He let hubris win—
And soft power was quietly fried.

At CPAC he brandished a saw,
Declared whole departments a flaw.
Months later, subdued,
He hedged and he rued:
“I was… somewhat successful,” he'd craw.

DOGE promised to trim every dime,
Slash spending, efficiency prime.
But it cut without sense,
Brought collapse, not expense—
And failed on both ledger and time.

A tale for the ages remains:
When amateurs seized governing reins,
They didn’t just miss—
They authored this mess,
Left the world poorer, sicker, in pain.

So carve it in verse and in stone:
When tech gods are handed the throne,
They don’t merely stall—
They dismantle it all,
And call nothing gained “worth the bone.”

jfz9580m

(16,444 posts)
21. Well that's the main goal
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 11:34 AM
Yesterday

To make everyone sicker and poorer and to destroy the planet more. And it’s all one planet and sadly we are not insulated enough from each others’ actions by now for crazies anywhere to not help drive the whole damn thing into more miserable hellscapes.

Seinan Sensei

(1,306 posts)
27. Trump does these things "because I can"
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 12:08 PM
Yesterday

Billionaires do it for the $$$ - and we know “too much is never enough”

MAGAts do it because they are racist

Christian Nationalists do it because Jesus is coming again. When the last tree is cut down, the last ocean polluted, and the last resource depleted, then Jesus will show-up and “create a new heaven and a new earth.” No need, therefore, for clean energy and conservation.

GiqueCee

(3,230 posts)
23. ALL of this malicious destruction...
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 11:45 AM
Yesterday

... must be laid at the feet of Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, and his "Useful Idiot", Donald John Trump.
Trump has been in Putin's pocket for decades, and gladly does what he's told, so he's been Putin's willing tool to destroy America from within. Putin has harbored a white-hot hatred for the United States his entire life, and that's very likely the biggest reason he joined the KGB. Trump hates America because his malicious, greedy dreams have been constantly thwarted by something he hates even more: Laws and regulations. In his diseased mind, institutions like the judiciary exist only to serve his malign purposes; they're not supposed to get in his way.
It is an obscenity that those who have the power to rein in Trump's excesses are too chickenshit to defy him. They know that he makes a point of amassing volumes of dirt on those he considers enemies, real or imagined. And, being Republicans, they're more concerned with their reelection than with fulfilling their Oath of Office to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States from enemies foreign and domestic, so nothing has been said or done about Trump's brazen treachery.
The M$M is bought and paid for by his billionaire donors, and their fear of reprisal from his shadow militia of braindead supporters keeps any discussion of "Russia, Russia, Russia", as Trump labeled any potential investigation into his treason, from ever seeing the light of day. The proof of it is out there in plain sight; but his minions won't say the quiet part out loud, and threaten anyone who might with all manner of horrible consequences.
Here's hoping that, after a Blue Tsunami in '26, the new Democratic leadership in the House will splatter his fat, pimply ass all over the landscape with the exhaustively documented proof of his treason. Metaphorically speaking, of course. Heh, heh, heh. And they should make sure that the public knows that continued support of this monster by Senate Republicans will be the death knell of the political careers of those that don't wind up in prison.
I have a bottle of Dom Perignon chilling in anticipation of his demise, political or literal, which ever comes first.

kacekwl

(8,843 posts)
24. DOGE is not a cautionary tale.
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 11:53 AM
Yesterday

It was a massive overreach by insane Republicans and will certainly happen again in some form if they continue in power. Anyone who wss paying attention knew if trump was elected again this was going to happen in accordance with project 2025. The warnings were right in our faces and somehow they "won".

Irish_Dem

(78,955 posts)
26. It was NOT all for nothing. Musk got all the data and back doors to the US Govt.
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 12:04 PM
Yesterday

He and his minions have access to all govt payrolls and can bankroll themselves for life.
And have plenty of data and dirt to make a fortune.

yellow dahlia

(4,159 posts)
28. This not efficiency, this a crime spree.
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 12:20 PM
Yesterday

That was one side of my first protest sign this year.

The other side of the sign listed agencies that were being decimated. It was many, and that was early on.

Hotler

(13,711 posts)
32. Musk & DOGE need indicted for identiy theft and violations of the HIPAA of millions of Americans.
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 12:41 PM
Yesterday

Stealing ID's and personal info and medical records.

3Hotdogs

(14,934 posts)
33. --- reminds me of a PBS documentary about 40 years ago. Chairman Mao came into power.
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 12:45 PM
Yesterday

A problem came to his attention. Fucking birds were eating seeds and produce. The problem was, they stopped fucking and were just eating - --everything.

Mao's solution: A bounty of about .5 yen, dinero, shackles or whatever on dead birds. The documentary showed peasants, chasing birds to the point that they would tire, drop to the ground and get killed for the bounty. It worked. Millions of birds were killed.

Next year or so, the worst locust plague in centuries,

duckworth969

(1,080 posts)
39. Lived in Shandong Province
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 01:50 PM
Yesterday

for seven months.

And I kid you not, I saw ONE bird.

And the poor tiny little thing had a guy with a slingshot hunting it.

No joke.

Saw no cats either. The only dogs were on leashes.

But there were big ass rats in the alleyways…

IronLionZion

(50,685 posts)
41. China has a pretty dead ecosystem. Any wildlife gets eaten
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 03:16 PM
Yesterday

if pandas weren't federally protected, they'd be eaten.

milestogo

(22,397 posts)
34. And a lot of us haven't found new jobs yet.
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 12:46 PM
Yesterday

There was no assistance for those of us who just got dumped. No extension of unemployment benefits.

J_William_Ryan

(3,261 posts)
36. "DOGE will forever be a cautionary tale..."
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 01:16 PM
Yesterday

The problem is Republicans won’t learn from that tale, won’t learn from the failure that was ‘DOGE.’

They’ll continue to pursue the same failed, wrongheaded conservative dogma, she same failed, wrongheaded anti-government agenda continuing to harm millions of Americans.

OldBaldy1701E

(9,889 posts)
42. Which is why he should be third in line for the docket.
Sun Dec 14, 2025, 05:39 PM
23 hrs ago

After the orange gibbon and Nosferatu McGobbels.

And, right before J-unior D-eviant.

BurnDoubt

(1,348 posts)
46. Not For Nothing...
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 12:10 AM
17 hrs ago

It did, after all give Musk and Kraznov a feeling of superiority and the accompanying Stiffy.
So... Not For Nothing.

Jspur

(779 posts)
48. This POS cost me my job when DOGE got rid of my employers
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 02:01 AM
15 hrs ago

government contract which cost me my Federal Contracting job. I hope people never forget the misery he has inflicted by getting people killed and also causing people to lose their jobs and livelihoods.

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