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red dog 1

(32,493 posts)
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 07:04 PM Dec 11

Elizabeth Warren's Bluesky post today

Republicans gave 2 billion in tax breaks to the top 1% in 2027.

With that money, we could have extended ACA tax credits for over 20 million people next year and still have 0 billion left over.

Elizabeth Warren (@warren.senate.gov) 2025-12-11T22:36:09.866Z
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Elizabeth Warren's Bluesky post today (Original Post) red dog 1 Dec 11 OP
That would be a subsidy of $125 per person/month (Edit: $133/month) AZJonnie Dec 11 #1
I think your math is off there EdmondDantes_ Dec 11 #3
Warren points out that soldierant Dec 11 #7
Excuse me while I go pull my foot out of my mouth. You are correct about me being incorrect. EdmondDantes_ Dec 11 #10
You were absolutely right soldierant Dec 11 #12
That is an emoji I would be using with every post involving math!!!! nt in2herbs Dec 12 #26
You rock Traildogbob Dec 12 #28
You're right, I shouldn't have just done the 1,600/12 calculation in my head AZJonnie Dec 12 #15
Not a Problem. soldierant Dec 12 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author AZJonnie Dec 12 #13
But if so many people wouldn't be knocked off the system, Trueblue Texan Dec 12 #18
Another possibility indeed! AZJonnie Dec 12 #24
If trumps tariffs are doing so well and bringing in soooo Figarosmom Dec 11 #2
Tariff revenues are actually down by 0.6 billion according to the last report... littlemissmartypants Dec 11 #4
Good! calimary Dec 11 #5
The entire scheme is a ludicrous way the manage our national economy. ... littlemissmartypants Dec 11 #6
I agree...they're looting the treasury and when they've taken as much as they dare.... Trueblue Texan Dec 12 #19
Exactly, Trueblue Texan. You hit the nail on the head. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Dec 12 #21
Figures he skrews up everything Figarosmom Dec 12 #14
he needs that money to invade American cities uninvited Skittles Dec 11 #8
Warren states the obvious, but it's only obvious tho people who are in their right mind. Martin68 Dec 11 #9
K&R&R canetoad Dec 11 #11
"Numbers are a democrat hoax!" JohnnyRingo Dec 12 #16
K & R Emile Dec 12 #17
trumpniks: "Buh tha's soshulismism!!" nt Grokenstein Dec 12 #20
📌 Warren: 100 billion left over. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Dec 12 #22
Preamble DallasNE Dec 12 #23
we need 2 wings to fly, but the rite one is severely fucked up. pansypoo53219 Dec 12 #25
I would have loved to have her as our President. Diamond_Dog Dec 12 #27
We will need her as President... pazzyanne Dec 12 #30
I agree! red dog 1 Dec 12 #33
She's always got her eye on the ball - THAT is exactly what TBF Dec 12 #29
Why isn't this fact part of a commercial that runs nationally? (n/t) appmanga Dec 12 #31

AZJonnie

(2,817 posts)
1. That would be a subsidy of $125 per person/month (Edit: $133/month)
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 07:35 PM
Dec 11

Last edited Fri Dec 12, 2025, 03:39 PM - Edit history (1)

I don't know about the rest of ya, but I'm looking at insurance for next year and staring down premiums well over $1000/mo for a PPO.

Sure, $125/mo would be helpful, but I could easily get behind the argument that we need to do a LOT more about these spiraling costs than just giving $125/mo to 20M people.

We need a PUBLIC OPTION, with low overhead, akin to what we pay in admin costs for Medicare, and no PROFIT for anyone but the people actually providing the services! If the government plan puts any or even all health insurance providers out of business, TOO FUCKING BAD.

EdmondDantes_

(1,373 posts)
3. I think your math is off there
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 08:07 PM
Dec 11

132 billion divided by 20 million by 12 months is 550 a month.

But even a public option would need work to provide the bigger savings we need. We don't allow the government to negotiate drug prices which is one of the biggest drivers in insurance costs going up. It also doesn't address the increased utilization we've seen since 2021.

soldierant

(9,286 posts)
7. Warren points out that
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 08:54 PM
Dec 11

we would have 100 billion left over, which means we would have spent only $32 billion.
$32 B divided by 20M and then by 12 - I get $133.33

EdmondDantes_

(1,373 posts)
10. Excuse me while I go pull my foot out of my mouth. You are correct about me being incorrect.
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 10:17 PM
Dec 11

Moments like this, I'd really appreciate a dunce emoji.

soldierant

(9,286 posts)
12. You were absolutely right
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 11:06 PM
Dec 11

with the data you used.
Please don't feel bad about it. Anyone who hasn't been there is probably not smart enough (and certainly not confident enough) to go there.

Traildogbob

(12,561 posts)
28. You rock
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 03:38 PM
Dec 12

THAT is how to admit to a mistake. One many could easily make. Not like any GQP, “I didn’t say that”. Refreshing to see us Dems show responsibly. No foot to mouth required. Your humility is good enough. More of this from everyone.

AZJonnie

(2,817 posts)
15. You're right, I shouldn't have just done the 1,600/12 calculation in my head
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 12:27 AM
Dec 12

and instead done the one extra step in the calculator that was needed

It *looked like* $125 when I eyeballed it lol. Thanks for the correction

soldierant

(9,286 posts)
32. Not a Problem.
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 06:46 PM
Dec 12

I did it twice, because it didn't match your figures, but when I looked at the numbers again, I realized that 16 is a power of two, whereas 12 is divisible by three, so the string of 3's was reasonable and to be expected. And a difference of $8.33 a month is a drop in the bucket anyway

Response to EdmondDantes_ (Reply #3)

Trueblue Texan

(4,187 posts)
18. But if so many people wouldn't be knocked off the system,
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 07:55 AM
Dec 12

...the rates wouldn't go up so much. Likely that $1000 a month would be a much more tame figure.

littlemissmartypants

(31,640 posts)
4. Tariff revenues are actually down by 0.6 billion according to the last report...
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 08:31 PM
Dec 11
https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=3580832

Monthly tariff revenue falls for the first time since Trump rolled out global import duties

littlemissmartypants

(31,640 posts)
6. The entire scheme is a ludicrous way the manage our national economy. ...
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 08:54 PM
Dec 11

It's a smokescreen masking nefarious disruption for the purpose of getting the oligarchy even richer than they already are.

Trueblue Texan

(4,187 posts)
19. I agree...they're looting the treasury and when they've taken as much as they dare....
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 07:58 AM
Dec 12

...and can't milk more out of the system and can't bamboozle their base anymore, they'll leave the nation to the vultures waiting in the wings.

JohnnyRingo

(20,507 posts)
16. "Numbers are a democrat hoax!"
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 01:51 AM
Dec 12

Liberal "math" and "counting" are for lefty loons. A real president feels it in his gut.
hahaha

littlemissmartypants

(31,640 posts)
22. 📌 Warren: 100 billion left over. ❤️
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 10:22 AM
Dec 12

This entire meme would make a good sticker/shirt/poster!

DallasNE

(7,960 posts)
23. Preamble
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 11:03 AM
Dec 12

The Preamble to the Constitution is what we today call a Mission Statement. It provides the guidelines for what legislation and Executive Orders should be measured against. It should also be a constraint on Supreme. Court decisions. America has lost its way and is wandering endlessly and must get back on track. https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/preamble/

pazzyanne

(6,747 posts)
30. We will need her as President...
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 03:49 PM
Dec 12

...if we ever get rid of the thing now living in the White House!

red dog 1

(32,493 posts)
33. I agree!
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 11:07 PM
Dec 12

She could fire up the millennials and Gen Z voters, who like her and Bernie, and she could win!

TBF

(35,640 posts)
29. She's always got her eye on the ball - THAT is exactly what
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 03:48 PM
Dec 12

republicans do when they're in office. More & more to the rich people, while everyone else has to fend for themselves.

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